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Living organic soil from start through recycling

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MrSterling

Check his profile. A supermod I've never even seen before pegged him to the wall for turboposting nothing of value.
 

Gascanastan

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Jesus fuck there have been a slew of bannings lately. Who the fuck was that guy even.

Could we figure out what exactly cannabis uses out of the soil. What do all the nutrients like P and K go to biologically speaking. Really, when you think about it you're really not getting that much physical mass off a plant.

Seems to me it's often just random moderation finagled by members who 'don't like' what other members have to say...or challenges against such endless self-proclaimed expert advice which are met with instant 'Nazi' like judgement.

That guy was turbo-posting though...not that I think it's such a bad thing as it is annoying ya know.
 
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MJPassion

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About the Wheat Hulls I picked up from the Mill,

I got four bags and one of them was about 2/3 full and the heaviest of the four. I got a small dehydrator screen and sifted the entire bag and now I've got about 2 cu ft of Hulls and roughly 25-30 lbs bran and other fine materials. I've got pics but my host isn't taking the upload right now. I'm thinking I did the right thing here because that bag was heavy with bran.

Did I make a good choice to sift the bran from the hulls?
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What do I use the Bran for now?
Was thinking about feeding it, slowly, to the new worm bin I'm getting started and putting it on the compost pile.

I've read that it contains all the vitamins and minerals that is produced by the wheat grass and it is removed from the flour (mostly) and was told that is the reason all flour purchased for human consumption must be enriched.
 

invocation

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Anyone use old cannabis leaves for compost tea like the herbal teas that people have been making? I got a bunch of herbs over the weekend and was thinking why the hell couldn't I add healthy old cannabis leaves. I would assume anything fresh would be superior than dry materials.

I have comfrey, nettle, alfalfa, horse tail, dandelion leaf dried, and sugar about 2 tsp each in a 5 gal with the KIS brewer attachment and ewc/compost bubbling away.
 
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YosemiteSam

..are you paying attention here Mr!!!...j/k
90% of this garden was second round no-till. This particular pot that housed that TO x SC99 was not. It was just a ROLS pot that was too small resulting in a touch of premature yellowing from becoming root bound. I used the same unfinished compost on the ROLS pots as the no-till...however the no-tills took it better,and that's no shocker.

Despite the obvious problems associated with polyhybrids of this nature,TO x SC99 will no doubt have some nice plants...I'm pretty jazzed to sample this one~

I have been diagnosed with smoke too much weed attention deficit disorder. I completely forgot/failed to read what round you are on.

I tend to look at it like poly x poly equals a whole lotta possibilities. But that one looks like a winna and that is all I look for :biggrin:
 
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YosemiteSam

Jesus fuck there have been a slew of bannings lately. Who the fuck was that guy even.

Could we figure out what exactly cannabis uses out of the soil. What do all the nutrients like P and K go to biologically speaking. Really, when you think about it you're really not getting that much physical mass off a plant.

Yea...and if you further believe only 5% of that mass is minerals then ol Gascan may be onto something. Load it up then give the fungi a while to really establish and do they thing. I just have lacked the balls to go that way yet.

Seems to me cannabis might like a little on the bacterial side of soils kinda like corn though...just a guess based on how much N it seems to like though. An occasional compost tea with mucho bacteria might not be a bad thing to go with.
 

rrog

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Seems to me cannabis might like a little on the bacterial side of soils kinda like corn though...just a guess based on how much N it seems to like though. An occasional compost tea with mucho bacteria might not be a bad thing to go with.

Annual grasses are bacterially dominated, as you surmised. From what I've read.

My own little generalized thought, My understanding is the plant will dictate the % Fungus and Bacteria, as well as the types of each. So in my opinion, why mess that up by dumping a bunch of microbes (with the intent of increasing the herd)? It's not like the soil is currently lacking. My opinion.

I'll take the compost tea just for the compost, however!
 
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Gascanastan

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I'm from the school of thought that I'm attempting to copy the best soil I could possibly find on Earth.

Assemble the components and let nature do the work.

If I start with rich and complex materials high in nutrient values from various components,and materials that I know contain life forms,I then know that those elements and minerals are there and will be utilized by bacteria,insect,and fungi.

As time goes on the components break down and the humic level rises,which in turn creates an optimal environment suitable for multiple life forms.

I dissected the Blue Orca no-till pot like an archeologist the other day. I wanted to see what life forms could be found at different depths in the pot. I was surprised to see blind soil thrips all throughout the medium......along with the usual residents of pot worms,red worms,and the current species of predatory soil thrip.
 
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Microbeman

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Annual grasses are bacterially dominated, as you surmised. From what I've read.

My own little generalized thought, My understanding is the plant will dictate the % Fungus and Bacteria, as well as the types of each. So in my opinion, why mess that up by dumping a bunch of microbes (with the intent of increasing the herd)? It's not like the soil is currently lacking. My opinion.

I'll take the compost tea just for the compost, however!

Compost works no differently.
 

rrog

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1 Tbs of EWC added as a top dressing

1 Tbs of EWC in a vortex for 36 hours

Not the same quantity of microbes, which was my point. One releases the nutrient payload very quickly, one is a slow release. Different.
 

ColorGRo

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So if I do a NO TILL with 5 gallon pots, how long do i let the roots break down before pulling them out. Then I just add a little more soil with the new plant to even things out correct? How do i reamend with neem and kelp this way? Doesn't the kelp and neem and crab meal have to compost in the soil for some time? I've seen a lot mention the no till and have been trying to find if anybody explained it but cannot so i apologize if it has before. Thanks
 
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MrSterling

Fuck pulling the roots out! Cut the bastard down as low as you can and pop another in its place is my experience.
 

ColorGRo

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Fuck pulling the roots out! Cut the bastard down as low as you can and pop another in its place is my experience.

I can do this with clones that are in rapid Rooters correct? If so this Is super easy.
Another question...if i order the nutrient pack from kisorganics, (which will make the perfect amount of soil for me after mixed) how am i going to re amend the no till pots?
 
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