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BlueJayWay

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Prevention is far easier than eradicating - or at least in my experience

Maybe consider this - combine the two. Make your cilantro tea as usual, dilute it to the correct ratio and use that as your water when you process the oil - double-whammy

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Nice, makes sense too! thanks! Will go with weekly applications for the time being....

....Since I already hit a full flowering plant with cilantro tea, I might as well follow up, on the same plant, tomorrow with the sprouted seed tea as foliar, just for kicks - best case scenario: direct hit on trichomes/flowers induces an increase in resin production..... worst case, "curiousity satisfied" :D
 

Microbeman

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Using pesticides without precision on mites definitely causes a rebound population explosion through immunity/tolerance to the poison. If you can get a predator established and maintained, IME, this is the way to go.
 

Gascanastan

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I got the dirty little fuckers on a couple plants. I've been bombarding them with all kinds of organic concoctions. Some 5 types of spray later the population LOOKS to be irradiated.....ha think again. Better keep spraying fool...they are still there and will be for another couple months.
Even then you could have females that go dormant and revive some years later once conditions are right....as they lay in wait between some fold of plastic,or under the lip of a pot.....on some dried up leaf in the corner.
 

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would agree that the best possible situation with mites and organics is to spray at least once a week, varying the pesticide, when you CANT SEE ANY MITES ON YOUR PLANTS.

that way you should never have a problem.

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Gascanastan

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would agree that the best possible situation with mites and organics is to spray at least once a week, varying the pesticide, when you CANT SEE ANY MITES ON YOUR PLANTS.

that way you should never have a problem.

VG


...now that we've got VG on the phone. What are your thoughts about citric acid being used as a preservative for these seed sprout 'teas'....the big question,will citric acid destroy the enzymes...or would ascorbic acid be a better thought?
 
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BlueJayWay

How long are we guessing this tea lasts once ready - as is? I don't always use the full concentrated tea the first day, I've kept it in a bottle in the fridge for up to about a week before it was used up.

Smelled the same throughout and appeared to have same affect on plants.

Being able to to make a single larger batch, every few months, seems ideal. And preserving & keeping batches of different types for use as needed. i.e. barley, alfalfa, fenugreek, clover.

*********speaking of clover - Gas you mentioned picking up micro dutch white clover the other day, i think, did you source locally or maybe online?
 

shmalphy

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I just got my predator mites in today... I can't wait to be done with those fuckers... The instructions actually said that overfeeding of nitrogen can lead to mite outbreaks, which I had a theory of but was never able to confirm......

I also went to the food store and got sprouted seed bread, raw milk cheese, probiotic drink, and bee pollen (tons of enzymes). After seeing what it does for the plants, why not give it a whirl?
 

Gascanastan

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I just got my predator mites in today... I can't wait to be done with those fuckers... The instructions actually said that overfeeding of nitrogen can lead to mite outbreaks, which I had a theory of but was never able to confirm......

I also went to the food store and got sprouted seed bread, raw milk cheese, probiotic drink, and bee pollen (tons of enzymes). After seeing what it does for the plants, why not give it a whirl?

One of the first things I 'lerned up' in college horticulture classes.

Pumping up plants with nutrients doesn't just make them appealing to us.
Healthy,nutrient rich green leaf...just sitting there waiting for an opportunistic parasite to enjoy.
 

Gascanastan

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*********speaking of clover - Gas you mentioned picking up micro dutch white clover the other day, i think, did you source locally or maybe online?

Local garden center....... there were a # other types I had no clue existed,including the 'coated' type Mile High mentioned.
 

Microbeman

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Great news...

I've got predatory soil thrips. These guys are awesome little hunters...just zipping around the surface of the soil,underneath the pots,etc. all hopped up like greyhounds ready to run.

No doubt introduced via material such as leaf litter,compost,etc.

Lets have a look and see at the little buggers eh...

http://www.entomology.umn.edu/cues/Web/281Insecta.Thysanoptera.Aleolothripidae_Phlaeothripidae.pdf





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Score! I just ordered some Praying Mantid (Mantis) eggs today. Going to hatch them in an aquarium for the greenhouse.
 

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...now that we've got VG on the phone. What are your thoughts about citric acid being used as a preservative for these seed sprout 'teas'....the big question,will citric acid destroy the enzymes...or would ascorbic acid be a better thought?

hmm, i dont know for sure, but i think there is a good chance that citric acid would react with many enzymes. the citric acid cycle certainly involves enzymes.

couple of other things on the mites - excess nitrogen definitely will encourage mites and any other sap sucking pests. it also encourages powdery mildew.

and predators - i wish they had worked better for me, but they didnt on both of the occasions that i tried them.

VG
 
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