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Microbeman

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What about Mg though? Not from the perspective of too little...but can you have too much of it even in these living soils?

Good question which I'm not qualified to answer.

why wouldn't you just go humus/drainage amendment

I have grown in vermicompost and drainage just fine - tomatoes. It can get pricey.

Sphagnum peatmoss does bring humus to the equation.
 
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YosemiteSam

btw...not trying to make anything uncomfortable for anyone. Just asking questions that come to mind. I assume we are all looking for the best answer possible and questioning everything tends to lead to that, in my experience.

If I offend I assure you that is not my intention and I apologize.
 
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YosemiteSam

and it seems like every time I try to add rep on this computer it is causing these multiple posts. fucking security software.
 

ClackamasCootz

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YosemiteSam

Magnesium in high levels definitely affects a number of functions in the soil. It restricts water and air flow in the soil as well as locking out a number of ions like Calcium in particular.

Sound familiar? LOL

For the same reasons that products like Milk of Magnesia tightens up things in your digestive system, an identical dynamic occurs in the soil. I experienced this when I over-applied Langbeinite (K-MAG, Sul-Po-Mag - pick a name) = friggin' mess all the way around.

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rrog

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What about Mg though? Not from the perspective of too little...but can you have too much of it even in these living soils?

My understanding is you'd like a cation profile like 60% Ca, 15%, Mg and the rest K, Na and trace. More Mg tightens the soil. My soil in my new place is sandy, so I could go to 20% Mg to get a little water retention, maybe. I've read where if Mg is actually above Ca it can go anaerobic, actually generate preservatives that hinder decomposition.
 
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YosemiteSam

One element different right? We ain't all that different from the plants we grow.
 

ClackamasCootz

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One element different right? We ain't all that different from the plants we grow.
Keep that truth at the forefront when making decisions about what you consider adding to your soil mixes.

What Plants Know - this book is up there with The One Straw Revolution, Luther Burbank's work, etc.

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YosemiteSam

One for MicrobeMan...can you tell I am smoking a bit of sativa...anyways, if I were to take some so so compost (low salt, but wind rowed just to break down bio mass otherwise) can I make it useable by adding some minerals and feeding it some compost tea?

Long term wise my goal is vermicompost...but next summer I am looking at needing a couple thousand gallons of "humus component". So I am looking at a short term fix. I would probably also look at adding some of the Stutzman Farm compost just to be sure.
 
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YosemiteSam

Keep that truth at the forefront when making decisions about what you consider adding to your soil mixes.

What Plants Know - this book is up there with The One Straw Revolution, Luther Burbank's work, etc.

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I will give it a read. Been having a swallow or two of the enzyme teas myownself...it kinda jacks your energy level up but not in that nervous speed way.
 

ClackamasCootz

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GrowNut & YosemiteSam

What Plants Know was published last spring and there are several media sites where the author was interviewed (PBS, CNN, et al) - well worth checking out to get an overview of his work.

BTW - the author is a legitimate biologist - not a gardening author. Thank God.

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I just top dress with bone meal last week to find this problem, what is it? its on all the older leaves.

Why top dress with bone meal? That takes quite a while to break down and IMO shouldn't be top dressed. Actually I stopped using bone meal altogether. I took gas route and went to fish/bone meal.
 

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Gas

When you're evaluating a new strain, how many days from the start of the 12/12 light cycle do you give a plant to show a resin set heavy enough to cover all of the leaf action in and around the actual flower?

IOW, if it isn't done by Day X then you yank it....

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Seandawg

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I guess this question goes to gas or anyone that can accurately answer it.

Pretty simple really. I know how to grow a decent plant but I am not a breeding expert by any means. Im interested in a book on MJ breeding that would help to clear things up a bit. Im not saying that i want to start breeding, I'd just like to better understand the breeding process. And how certain traits are tied to others in the search to better a particular strain or really dial in "what you're looking for" when popping a hundred different seeds or so.
 

Gascanastan

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Gas

When you're evaluating a new strain, how many days from the start of the 12/12 light cycle do you give a plant to show a resin set heavy enough to cover all of the leaf action in and around the actual flower?

IOW, if it isn't done by Day X then you yank it....

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If they look like junk around the 4th to 5th week in I will then make a call if it looks like it's going to get better and produce material for bags. ...if it's got sativa in it I'd possibly wait longer than a month depending on genetics.

I guess this question goes to gas or anyone that can accurately answer it.

Pretty simple really. I know how to grow a decent plant but I am not a breeding expert by any means. Im interested in a book on MJ breeding that would help to clear things up a bit. Im not saying that i want to start breeding, I'd just like to better understand the breeding process. And how certain traits are tied to others in the search to better a particular strain or really dial in "what you're looking for" when popping a hundred different seeds or so.

It would be a better choice IMO to read about Mendels law of segregation rather than stoner publications...just the basics of those laws are far more useful than trying to translate stoner versions of selecting traits.
 

MileHighGuy

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Popping some heirloom cilantro seeds and growing them out in my flower room. Been Meaning to grow some in case of Spider Mites and figured why not just put them with my ladies.
 
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BlueJayWay

Indoors in extra notill 5gal buckets I have nasturtiums, morning glory, volunteer nettle (ouch! Don't bump into this one!), spinach, basil, wheatgrass, lavender, tomatoes and something else.... I'll eat these or mulch with what gets trimmed back. They'll also act as great experimentees muahahaha

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Question for those that may know about honey - does the finished raw honey contain any compounds from the pollen that was used, in other words, will there be a difference and possible benefits from honey derived strictly from clover or orange etc., or lets say neem?

Saw honey at trader joes that is from India and collected from wild bees that feed from the neem tree flowers, caught my eye at least, and I bought some hehe.
 
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