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[hope2toke]

hey shmalphy and mr sterling, you should really take DARCMIND's advice and read agrarian history. There are a lot of newer books that you won't put down. The knee jerk reaction against GMO's is based in clear easy to ready history. Plant breeders that accomplished amazing plant developments were amazing people whose lifelong goal was to feed the world. They were picked on, dismissed from duty, and even killed by entities such as GMO creators (agricultural supercorporate personality). It's unnatural and if the government wasn't subsidizing them the poor children of the world would not be fed yellow rice, they would starve while GMO test fields are cut down and thrown to the trash. Its a fact...

 

[YosemiteSam]

YosemiteSam

Basalt, granite, lava rock are very high on the paramagnetic scales. Phil Callahan, Ph.D is a good 'search term' if you're interested and Acres Magazine has several audio files from his presentations over the years.

This cycle is the first testing for me with the Basalt rock dust from Redmond, Oregon (Cascade Minerals) vs. the Canadian glacial rock dust (Gaia Green) that I've used in the past. The plants rooted about 10 days ago so I'll be watching.

I ran 2 plants with the glacial, 2 plants with the basalt and 1 plant with an equal mix of both rock dusts.

CC

Nice. Definitely interested in hearing the results.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Traditional Breeding Outperforms Genetic Engineering

Although exaggerated claims of rise of productivity by GM (genetically modified) crops have been made time and again in India and abroad, on closer examination these have been proved time and again to be untrue.

According to a report by eminent scientists comprising the Independent Science Panel, “The consistent finding from independent research and on-farm surveys since 1999 is that GM crops have failed to deliver the promised benefits of significantly increasing yields or reducing herbicide and pesticide use. GM crops have cost the United States an estimated $12 billion in farm subsidies, lost sales and product recalls due to transgenic contamination...The instability of transgenic lines has plagued the industry from the beginning, and this may be responsible for a string of major crop failures.”

 

[shmalphy]

I actually read that earlier, CC. Here is an excerpt:
The letter warns India against “the unique risks (of GM crops) to food security, farming systems and bio-safety impacts which are ultimately irreversible.” It adds, “The GM transformation process is highly mutagenic leading to disruptions to host plant genetic structure and function, which in turn leads to disturbances in the biochemistry of the plant. This can lead to novel toxin and allergen production as well as reduced/altered nutrition quality.”

However, according to a report on "Identifying and Assessing Unintended Effects of Genetically Engineered Foods"
http://dels-old.nas.edu/dels/rpt_briefs/ge_foods_final.pdf

Foods, whether or not they are genetically
engineered, carry potentially hazardous substances
that must be assessed for safety. Breeding and other
alteration methods can sometimes increase the levels
of these hazardous substances. For example, celery
naturally produces psoralens—irritant chemicals
that deter insects from feeding on the plant. Celery
plants with elevated levels of psoralens suffer less
damage from disease and insects and appeal more
to consumers, and therefore, had been selectively
bred. Unfortunately, workers who harvested high
psoralen-producing celery or packed it in grocery
stores had, on occasion, developed severe skin
rashes, especially if they were exposed to bright
sunlight.

The harm to health from any compositional
changes in foods depends on the nature and biological
consequences of the compounds produced, not the
method by which the changes were made.



The report you posted about secondary metabolites is a perfect example about how GMO technology is being utilized to produce pharmaceuticals and other chemicals more sustainably

from: http://www.biol.unlp.edu.ar/biologiavegetal/seminario9-material1.pdf

page 45 fig 24.40


Using antisense/cosuppression technologies (see
Chapter 7) or overexpression, medicinal plants can
be tailored to produce pharmaceutically important
alkaloids by eliminating interfering metabolic steps
or by introducing desired metabolic steps. Expressing
an entire alkaloid biosynthesis pathway of 20 to
30 enzymes in a single microorganism is currently
beyond our technical capability. However, altering
the pathway in a plant and producing the desired alkaloid
either in culture or in the field may now be
possible. For example, to accumulate more of the end
product alkaloid, a side pathway that also uses the
same precursor may have to be blocked (A). To accumulate
an alkaloid not normally produced in a particular
plant species, a transgene (from another plant
or a microorganism) may be introduced (B). If the
end product alkaloid would be more useful as a particular
derivative, for example, as a more soluble glycoside,
a gene that encodes a glycosyl transferase
could be introduced (C).

 

[DARC MIND]

http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/agriculture/they-stoop-to-conquer/article4016949.ece

"I had observed that our region was once home to some of the best varieties of paddy but over the years they had disappeared and some were on the verge of extinction. This had happened because tribal farmers, who were dependent on cultivation for their livelihood, gave up farming and preferred to become wage-earners instead.”

 

[Gascanastan]

Stuff grandpa's say...

Ya' can't fix what ain't broke....

Leave well enough alone....

If it ain't broke ...don't fix it...

I'm sure there's some more good ol' fashioned grandpa type sayin's that fit the bill....

 

[Gascanastan]

...not to be confused with that one uncle that says,"there's a candy bar in my pocket and you can have it if you can get it"......

 

[DARC MIND]

the 2 Vshiva's just getting started

should have f2's from both girls if all goes well

nl#5/haze f2

hit a few of these with
colombian gold x cheeze (exodus cut)
SSH f3 (worked mr nice)
BO/CB
& some

 

[Gascanastan]

Sativa spearz....

Whatz the smell on those vshiva's Darc?...sweet sandlewood...cherry?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

DARC MIND

The HNL definitely does well in your garden!

 

[DARC MIND]

gas
one smells sweet kinda fruity, like C99,NLH
were the other is more pungent,giving off those odd highland lumbo aroma's that linger in my SSH,black haze & colombians.

heres some supersilver haze sisters,

& some alien OG

 

[Gascanastan]

Must be pretty cool to be able to run long flowering sativa's outside.

 

[DARC MIND]

we all need to do a super sativa club out here in socal....
i wnt all out this year to perserve them gems and see some run naturally under the sun
lots of sats & hazes here with indica hybrids filling in the cracks

 

[rrog]

I'm flowering a SSH myself right now. I love that stuff!

 

[shmalphy]

That looks phenomenal Darc, I bet it is soooo sweet, you cannot recreate the smells created by the sun indoors... especially with the sativas.. My outdoor harvest this year is probably about 2 grams lol. I had one plant that got topped repeatedly by a gopher. It smells so nice though!

 

[DARC MIND]

thanks all

coot
alot of the gems ive come to love and work on are of big thanks to gas & your self...NLH is pretty much the foundation to the some of the classics in the dutch breeding scene.

shmalpy
the smells produce outdoors are great but i feel indoors can compete pretty well with certain strains.. to me its the flavor & the deep complex high produced by the sun,that makes it shine..

the finest quality connoiseur sativas imo perform the greatest under ideal outdoor conditions.. terpenoids from the genetics that formed the backbone to the whole cannabis genepool are increased dramatically with natural sunlight, deep active livings soil & all that comes with

 

[Durdy]

we all need to do a super sativa club out here in socal....
i wnt all out this year to perserve them gems and see some run naturally under the sun
lots of sats & hazes here with indica hybrids filling in the cracks

Second! wish I had some real sativas in my stables. Got a hybrid Jack herer x skunk #1. need to find some good ones for next summer!

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

Some hazy/Trainwreck buds (note the absurd foxtails)






I have a 100+ day cut of Moonshine Haze I'm vegging out now - lookin forward to that!

 

[Gascanastan]

Kali Mist

Stuffed in a shower to finish under her own 1000 watt day 70....only another 20 days to some really great smoke..lol~ Water only except for a Coot barley seed juice application,1 light liquid fish hydrolysate @ 4 weeks in flower,and 1 ACT application directly after that....and of course no phing,no flushing ROLS.

 

[rrog]

I am such a fucking amateur. I feel like I play sax in the high school band, but I'm backstage with The Who.