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Living organic soil from start through recycling

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Gascanastan

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This is more like a run of old Grateful Dead shows...'cause we're all high all the time.
 
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ClackamasCootz

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we all need to do a super sativa club out here in socal....
i wnt all out this year to perserve them gems and see some run naturally under the sun
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In the earliest days of something approaching commercial growing in North San Diego County (Fallbrook would be one example) or South Orange County (Santa Ana Canyons, Ortega, et al), circa 1976, Sativa's were the only strains grown. The Indica deal seemed to be centered further north as far as BC

My favorite seeds were from Thai Sticks before Thai, in general, was 'outsourced' elsewhere. IOW, it missed Thailand by about 8,500 miles.

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Gascanastan

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I ran that F2 NLH for two cycles and each time she produced extremely well with a serious heavy sativa effect. You can smoke it all day and end up in the stratosphere...seems once you stop token though the indica makes it's contribution a bit more pronounced. Indoors she would go around 75 for a decent finish.
 

Gascanastan

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"Thai, in general, was 'outsourced' elsewhere. IOW, it missed Thailand by about 8,500 miles."

Thai from south of the border or..???.......would this include the infamous Chocolate Thai as well?
 

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I'm not familiar with the origins of Chocolate Thai but by 1978 South County was flooded with bogus Thai sticks from Baja. They used sewing thread instead of silk - I mean come on! LMAO

South County was also awash in cocaine so I guess they wouldn't have noticed anyway while sneaking a hit behind Bahama Mama's to tone down the blow.

Flake 'n Rock - party on Wayne!
 

Gascanastan

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In 1985 we were getting both Thai stick and Choco Thai in LA....the choco seemed more legit compared to the sticks..which were quite different from the ones I was used to seeing from 78-ish Seattle.

A bag of Chocolate Thai in 1986 was $30...very fine herb. Brown,smelled and tasted like freeking chocolate. Sometimes we were told it was 'opiumated'...we examined it closely and the apparent opiumated stuff seemed gummier and harder to ignite...was never sure if that was opium at all....and really never felt any different. Most bags were just loose buds...larger amounts sometimes came with sharp fish bones that somehow pierced the shipment from wherever.

Seemed more indica-like compared to the sticks....we would get extremely fucking ripped and just sit there and slobber. Gawd that was good shit.....last bag I saw was 1989 LA
 

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didnt get to work the highland thai's this run but did get to do me some Mochalopes
Oregon Afghani x Chocolope Bx (DNA chocolope/chocolate rain)
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one reeks of what people refer to as kush,were the others linger a very sweet choc cake aroma
 

Gascanastan

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I'm sure 99% of us have seen this pic...one of the only ones out there of real Thai Stick.
Back in the day this stuff smelled like some kind of highly exotic incense...from what I remember kind of fruity with some kind of woody incense like sandlewood. Brown,sometimes slightly green,came with seeds...and one hit would have your eyes slammed into slits for hours...I think it was also kind of creeper..can't remember...and you really didn't need much more than half a joint before you were zipped the fuck up and not wanting to confront your parents....circa 1979.

Folks back then in some parts of the PNW would plant these seeds and end up with plants that would make seed in in the fall and drop those seed...which would sprout before freezing temps....no shit. Back then not much attention was paid to males and often they ended up growing and pollinating the females...I think they thought it was cool to have seed for next year probably the early Ma and Pa seed savers influenced by the Mother Earth News articles and the Foxfire series at the time.

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....and here's a fine example of the phoney ones...I've seen these home made jobs for years wrapped with everything under the sun except silk thread.

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I'm sure 99% of us have seen this pic...one of the only ones out there of real Thai Stick.
Back in the day this stuff smelled like some kind of highly exotic incense...from what I remember kind of fruity with some kind of woody incense like sandlewood. Brown,sometimes slightly green,came with seeds...and one hit would have your eyes slammed into slits for hours...I think it was also kind of creeper..can't remember...and you really didn't need much more than half a joint before you were zipped the fuck up and not wanting to confront your parents....circa 1979.

Folks back then in some parts of the PNW would plant these seeds and end up with plants that would make seed in in the fall and drop those seed...which would sprout before freezing temps....no shit. Back then not much attention was paid to males and often they ended up growing and pollinating the females...I think they thought it was cool to have seed for next year probably the early Ma and Pa seed savers influenced by the Mother Earth News articles and the Foxfire series at the time.

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....and here's a fine example of the phoney ones...I've seen these home made jobs for years wrapped with everything under the sun except silk thread.

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Never seen anything like that bottom one, it looks like a turd. I remember them coming back from Vietnam and they looked like the top pic. And then we got some that were sprayed with some shit too, they had a chemical taste and were gooey. Don't even wanna know what that might have been....
 

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Sorry to break the momentum of the current topic but I have a question about molasses. Does anybody feed molasses with water during the veg period? I do it sparingly in flower but never in veg. I supposes the micro nutes would be a great addition and feeding some of the bacteria but is it needed in recycle soil?
 
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hope2toke

I get it shmalph, gmo's are the same as other plants but a plant grown under the sun is different than indoor, and gopher's toppings are good. I now understand you are doing devil advocacy for purposes of argument. Well done. I need to argue about more things because my views are not so refined and I am indecisive. However as far as the genetic discussion I am staunchly opinionated. My family owns old agri-chemical company, I couldn't be in more asynchrony with a person than these people; they will spray roudnup in the shrubs while you're in it pulling weeds.
 

Gascanastan

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Sorry to break the momentum of the current topic but I have a question about molasses. Does anybody feed molasses with water during the veg period? I do it sparingly in flower but never in veg. I supposes the micro nutes would be a great addition and feeding some of the bacteria but is it needed in recycle soil?
I look at molasses as one thing....microbe food. There are many other components in these soils working to provide what molasses can through the decomposition and mineralization of the various amendments. Can't hurt to feed some microbes some carbs and minerals...and possibly show some results in a couple days. I wouldn't do it all the time...in fact I wouldn't do it at all.

There may be a population explosion associated with it....exhuasting nutrients in the soil perhaps.
 

ClackamasCootz

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I'm sure 99% of us have seen this pic...one of the only ones out there of real Thai Stick.

Back in the day this stuff smelled like some kind of highly exotic incense...from what I remember kind of fruity with some kind of woody incense like sandlewood. Brown,sometimes slightly green,came with seeds...and one hit would have your eyes slammed into slits for hours...I think it was also kind of creeper..can't remember...and you really didn't need much more than half a joint before you were zipped the fuck up and not wanting to confront your parents....circa 1979.
GS

The smell was hard to describe but incense is probably the best. Lots of fruit undertones and a very spicy flavor.

The first 4 loads that we worked were in 10 kg. packs which was 9 kg. of sticks and 1 kg. of 'untied Thai' as it was called - dealer's choice. My job was warehousing and working the product into 1 and 5 lb. packs and setting the untied buds aside for the owners of the load. I was paid in product at a price where even at legitimate wholesale prices I could double my money. Plus they took care of my rent in San Juan Capistrano - away from the insanity up in Laguna Beach.

The house was only a couple of miles off of PCH and about the same to I-5 which gave you access to LA to the north and San Diego to the south. Lots of cars so you could move around without drawing attention, i.e. it wasn't like setting up shop in f*cking Barstow or worse - Apple Valley.

"May you live in weird times" - Wu Flung Dung

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Gascanastan

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Yeah that smell........never forget it but at the same time can't tell you what it was.

Thank you for your work in the bizz....a fine delight I'd have never known without you guys.

These times are stranger than ever possibly preconcieved by man....what a trip man~
 

ClackamasCootz

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Of course it is complete fantasy but a comparison of Thai sticks vs. whatever the latest seed being promoted might turn out.

Again - complete fantasy
 
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With Stan talking about "opiated" weed and y'all talking about incense and sweet aromas brought back a memory of what we bought 25 plus years ago up on Haight St, some of what was promoted as "opiated hash". Now, I have no idea, but it was hash - extremely "perfumy", sweet smelling, almost like incense from India. I do specifically remember that it gave us weird dreams if we smoked it at night.

Anyone remember this?

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