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Living organic soil from start through recycling CONTINUED...
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natural
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/natural
: existing in nature and not made or caused by people : coming from nature
: not having any extra substances or chemicals added : not containing anything artificial
: usual or expected
Replicating natural systems for natural results, pretty simple if you own a dictionary
Still waiting for someone with successful LOS experience to chime in on the negative side.
My guess is ill be waiting for a while
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/natural
: existing in nature and not made or caused by people : coming from nature
: not having any extra substances or chemicals added : not containing anything artificial
: usual or expected
Replicating natural systems for natural results, pretty simple if you own a dictionary
Still waiting for someone with successful LOS experience to chime in on the negative side.
My guess is ill be waiting for a while
Weird
There is no negative side, and that was basically my point.
People nit picking these fine details, perlite this, cuz its made like this, lava rock blah blah blah.
So my point was, if youre gonna nit pick these things. nit pick it all the way down to the fact that no matter what, its still not natural.
There is no negative side, and that was basically my point.
People nit picking these fine details, perlite this, cuz its made like this, lava rock blah blah blah.
So my point was, if youre gonna nit pick these things. nit pick it all the way down to the fact that no matter what, its still not natural.
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so much for amending.
Take a good look at my gallery, take a good look and yours.
You older than me, you have more time at this, and your still stuck where you are.
enjoy your day
recreating living soil is replication of a natural system
there is no nit picking there, this is about replicating the natural process in regards to soil thus the thread title:
LIVING ORGANIC SOIL FROM START THROUGH RECYCLING
The whole idea is using natural systems to one's benefit.
I am not promoting my efforts as natural, just the soil inputs that effect the plant, which in the end, is what matters to me.
The fact that people make irrelevant and irreverent comparisons between what they think is natural and the object of this thread just shows how fucking pathetic the trolls here are.
Nothing to do all day but refresh new threads and drop a smarmy comment on things they have no experiential expertise in just opinions.
People adding comments to be productive or add value are very few and far between.
for what its worth, I looked at his mojave green's gallery and saw nothing bad or wrong with his plants. And your gallery doesn't show up, maybe you have it on private? so there was nothing to compare to.
I think if we spent less time feeding the trolls...(responding to them at all)...they might just starve to death and go elsewhere.
Noticed I've not been debating in this back and forth...I have an opinion on it - but, eh, it becomes a moot point when the reality is those who make positive/useful contributions are all practicing some form of the same principles...
dank.Frank
Noticed I've not been debating in this back and forth...I have an opinion on it - but, eh, it becomes a moot point when the reality is those who make positive/useful contributions are all practicing some form of the same principles...
dank.Frank
I do not know about others but I first began using the term natural growing in a concerted effort to separate from organic and in particular certified organic. I've described this several times in the forum.
I chose natural as a derivative of 'nature farming' a very ancient microbial based method which likely originated in Asia (Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, parts of India). These methods involved the use of various fermentations and other liquid microbial propagations.
Kudos to the intuitive minds of the originators. I thought that the term 'nature farming' sounded awkward so I referred to it as 'natural growing'.
Therefore you may need to look to some long dead Asians and perhaps me (and some cronies) for bringing this term to this forum. It is actually quite a misnomer attitude to try to associate natural growing with the strictures of what one considers natural, like not using lights and the such.
The research which has revealed how living soil functions has employed some very high tech equipment.
Computers, microscopes and laboratory equipment has revealed through DNA and other avenues most of what we know of the microbial nutrient loop. We know that Actinobacteria is not fungi as we once thought; we know that archaea and bacteria are two different creatures; we know that endomycorrhizal forms arbuscles in tissue cells of the roots of plants for trading nutrients.
This comprises a portion of what natural growing is to me. On we learn.
I chose natural as a derivative of 'nature farming' a very ancient microbial based method which likely originated in Asia (Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, parts of India). These methods involved the use of various fermentations and other liquid microbial propagations.
Kudos to the intuitive minds of the originators. I thought that the term 'nature farming' sounded awkward so I referred to it as 'natural growing'.
Therefore you may need to look to some long dead Asians and perhaps me (and some cronies) for bringing this term to this forum. It is actually quite a misnomer attitude to try to associate natural growing with the strictures of what one considers natural, like not using lights and the such.
The research which has revealed how living soil functions has employed some very high tech equipment.
Computers, microscopes and laboratory equipment has revealed through DNA and other avenues most of what we know of the microbial nutrient loop. We know that Actinobacteria is not fungi as we once thought; we know that archaea and bacteria are two different creatures; we know that endomycorrhizal forms arbuscles in tissue cells of the roots of plants for trading nutrients.
This comprises a portion of what natural growing is to me. On we learn.
Weird
Trust me, I get it all. Did you not see that LOS grown plant that I posted above?
Lets just drop the whole thing here, its turning into something it wasnt.
Trust me, I get it all. Did you not see that LOS grown plant that I posted above?
Lets just drop the whole thing here, its turning into something it wasnt.
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If I have dolomite lime, do I need to buy oyster shell as well, to put in my soil? Also, should I buy fish meal or a 50/50 mix of neem and karanja? Which is better?
i just had a great idea for a troll-based composting system.
feed the trolls and harvest their rich rich castings for a healthier garden!
or you can do it sepp holtzer style with rotating pens.
they clear brambles and turn the earth while foraging for tubers and sweet peas leaving their droppings behind---fresh manure in situ!
feed the trolls and harvest their rich rich castings for a healthier garden!
or you can do it sepp holtzer style with rotating pens.
they clear brambles and turn the earth while foraging for tubers and sweet peas leaving their droppings behind---fresh manure in situ!
I would never ever ever feed my plants with troll shit.
Especially not these trolls. God knows WHAT is in their shit. Probably some regurgitated 'sounds like nature, here's some science' hypocrisy.
I'll stick to my worm shit, thank you, and continue shitting on the trolls.
Especially not these trolls. God knows WHAT is in their shit. Probably some regurgitated 'sounds like nature, here's some science' hypocrisy.
I'll stick to my worm shit, thank you, and continue shitting on the trolls.
I am thankful for the likes of milkyjoe and mojave green. I really am now. I hope they and more like them come to this thread and shed more doubt on this technique. And I hope that more and more people believe them.
The fewer people that do it this way, the further I am in front of the whole gang.
Maybe I'll even switch sides and help with the disinformation.
This shit is too easy, too cheap, and the results are beyond top shelf for everyone to all get on this bandwagon. I need my niche, fuckers!
The fewer people that do it this way, the further I am in front of the whole gang.
Maybe I'll even switch sides and help with the disinformation.
This shit is too easy, too cheap, and the results are beyond top shelf for everyone to all get on this bandwagon. I need my niche, fuckers!
