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TheFarm
Weird, the "burned" comment wasn't directed at you, I respect your opinion and don't think it comes from resentment.
Microbeman, thanks for the great info you've given us over time, your posts are always informative. by "fast" mulch I meant mulch that breaks down faster than others, I thought it was fairly well accepted here that some mulch breaks down faster than others and there are things you can do to it before you apply it to make it break down faster once applied, sorry about the confusion if there was any.
If you really want to guess here's another hint: What was Microbemans favorite class in school?
For LB if you look good in stripes pull a tiger's tail
Goatstroker keep on stroking and growing and learning and being nice
To all of you, I hope the best for you and your loved ones
I doubt if I will be back to this forum anytime soon, maybe its just not my cup of aerated tea
Microbeman, thanks for the great info you've given us over time, your posts are always informative. by "fast" mulch I meant mulch that breaks down faster than others, I thought it was fairly well accepted here that some mulch breaks down faster than others and there are things you can do to it before you apply it to make it break down faster once applied, sorry about the confusion if there was any.
If you really want to guess here's another hint: What was Microbemans favorite class in school?
For LB if you look good in stripes pull a tiger's tail
Goatstroker keep on stroking and growing and learning and being nice
To all of you, I hope the best for you and your loved ones
I doubt if I will be back to this forum anytime soon, maybe its just not my cup of aerated tea
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TheFarm
moderators, I respectfully request that you take down post 322, I was mad at LB and asked a mean question, sorry
TheFarm; As you know, I stated to you by PM that you may have valuable information and experience to pass on, as does (potentially) everyone.
You will have more success conveying this 'knowledge' if you do so in simple and correct terms.
My favorite class in grade school through second year college was English Literature. In university it was neurophysiology because the biology lab instructor could not deal with my deformed hands but I was welcomed with open arms into the physiological psychology labs.
You will have more success conveying this 'knowledge' if you do so in simple and correct terms.
My favorite class in grade school through second year college was English Literature. In university it was neurophysiology because the biology lab instructor could not deal with my deformed hands but I was welcomed with open arms into the physiological psychology labs.
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TheFarm
I'm sorry that I didn't take into more consideration whose time I might be wasting.
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TheFarm
Suiwo, the disciple of Hakuin, was a good teacher. During one summer seclusion period, a pupil came to him from a southern island of Japan.
Suiwo gave him the problem: "Hear the sound of one hand."
The pupil remained three years but could not pass this test. One night he came in tears to Suiwo. "I must return south in shame and embarrassment," he said, "for I cannot solve my problem."
"Wait one week more and meditate constantly," advised Suiwo. Still no enlightenment came to the pupil. "Try for another week," said Suiwo. The pupil obeyed, but in vain.
"Still another week." Yet this was of no avail. In despair the student begged to be released, but Suiwo requested another meditation of five days. They were without result. Then he said: "Meditate for three days longer, then if you fail to attain enlightenment, you had better kill yourself."
On the second day the pupil was enlightened.
Suiwo gave him the problem: "Hear the sound of one hand."
The pupil remained three years but could not pass this test. One night he came in tears to Suiwo. "I must return south in shame and embarrassment," he said, "for I cannot solve my problem."
"Wait one week more and meditate constantly," advised Suiwo. Still no enlightenment came to the pupil. "Try for another week," said Suiwo. The pupil obeyed, but in vain.
"Still another week." Yet this was of no avail. In despair the student begged to be released, but Suiwo requested another meditation of five days. They were without result. Then he said: "Meditate for three days longer, then if you fail to attain enlightenment, you had better kill yourself."
On the second day the pupil was enlightened.
As Eisenhower once said:
"You know, farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."
dank.Frank
"You know, farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."
dank.Frank
I've never heard this. Brilliant!
Here i will answer it for you
Where do the plants have eyes and ears?
Actually plants do not have eyes and ears like us Like us, plants see light. Just as we have photoreceptors in our eyes, plants have their own throughout their stems and leaves
it is well documented that music stimulates plant growth
Where is the master always outstanding in his field?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B37e9g25GM&list=PLtDQLBMOFsZr2hyE1zKDpG35nIT1vROCq
Where does someone or something get laid everyday?
As a musician playing in all types of bars i got laid every day 2 times a day by different women and in every imaginable place you can think even a member of the 40,000 foot club hahaha
What can be bought & sold, loved & plowed and always breaks your heart at the end.
yeah, umm, no
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Do you really find fulfillment in degrading women in such a fashion?
Payaso; Where is your whip?
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Welcome to ROLS. I posted on here to ask a question which no one answered because you were too busy fighting.
Well, let's not act entitled, huh? Especially when some questions being asked have been answered before a couple hundred times or more. I know the search feature here sucks but a lot of the info people are looking for has been posted multiple times.
I have some questions. if I have a thick canopy where it is very shaded underneath, would it be more beneficial in my situation to use the leaf litter and comfrey leaves? I would like to use top dressings so how well does that work with a living mulch? would I have to weed a spot to put my dressing down? I'm at the beginning stages and at a crossroad. between dead and living mulches. thank you
To answer your first question re: thick canopy... either way is better than doing nothing, of course. Also, you can top dress either type of mulch. When you top dress just rake some of the mulch layer away from the base around the stem, apply and cover back with mulch.
The best way to determine if your canopy is too thick is to plant a cover crop and see what happens. Isn't there a period early on where the plant is getting established that things are not so thick canopy-wise? Does any light reach the top of your containers?
Cover crops do a lot more than just provide mulch material so if you can get them to grow it's worth doing so. They're particularly useful if you're in a no-till container and have any sort of downtime between plantings. Cover crops keep the wheel in spin, so to speak.
If you just want a mulch layer then lay down some leaf litter and call it a day.
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I actually went to another thread to ask and to suggest that I have not read or shouldn't ask questions I could look up is bullshit! Then what is the point of this? Any question can be easily looked up. I asked a good question; not some simple question. I wanted someone with experience. Someone who has experience with cover crops under thick canopy of a raised bed where the middle won't be getting any light. Can something that flowers survive it rather thrive in that? Don't bother to answer this as like stated before, your tired and have been answering questions over and over again.
there used to be a thread, "living mulch, just live it" ~sort of hearkening to the "mulch just do it" thread. i miss that one but, it's really something which depends somewhat on your circumstances. I know many cash croppers wouldn't waste time fostering other plants & that actually fails to consider that the maintenance for the living mulch is accomplished as you maintain the primary plant.
for me, it just has always seemed like there was some volunteers in there anyway. so "living mulch" just meant not killing the miner's lettuce or dandelion or whatever just happened to be there. they eventually fade away as the canna outlives them
there was also a grow show of living mulch in 5 gallon buckets which turned in to something of a big thread. She planted a bunch of clover & i think some buckwheat before ever transplanting. the "mulch" had yellowed but survived the full cycle & she did it as a side-by-side w/ her SO. they didn't find it at the time to be a significant difference but both still advocate living mulch as the benefits are mostly to the no-till paradigm ~as ras said, having something growing between cycles keeps soil biology alive & is especially helpful for mycorrhizae
for me, it just has always seemed like there was some volunteers in there anyway. so "living mulch" just meant not killing the miner's lettuce or dandelion or whatever just happened to be there. they eventually fade away as the canna outlives them
there was also a grow show of living mulch in 5 gallon buckets which turned in to something of a big thread. She planted a bunch of clover & i think some buckwheat before ever transplanting. the "mulch" had yellowed but survived the full cycle & she did it as a side-by-side w/ her SO. they didn't find it at the time to be a significant difference but both still advocate living mulch as the benefits are mostly to the no-till paradigm ~as ras said, having something growing between cycles keeps soil biology alive & is especially helpful for mycorrhizae
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Thank you for answering all my questions xmobotx. I really appreciate the time.
i've had patches of clover surviving every cycle, i still don't know is it any use. quess i do kinda transitional method, but with no-till . occasionally clover flowers pop up here and there. might be a more of an hobbyist thing but it's fun 
oh and have to mention that my pitiful setup is with vertical light so they get some shade of light through runs. very little to none would survive under thick canopy of horizontally trained plant, at least in this scale, don't have experience with big lights. somebody suggested many threads ago about using some shade tolerating plant as cover crop in that kind of situation. i have no ideas what that might be.
the clover that survives doesn't fade like the main plant. i don't know is this because of top soil nitrogen competition between plants, nitrogen fixing of clover(did'nt inoculate them with the bacteria) or senescence or some combination, but it is something i noticed.
edit: here's a pic demonstrating the mentioned clover, surviving in darkness between runs, because well i have to dry stuff somewhere. soon i'll dig that stump up and plant a new plant, going to the 7th cycle. if the bags were bigger than 4 gallons, i'd leave the stump intact.
oh and have to mention that my pitiful setup is with vertical light so they get some shade of light through runs. very little to none would survive under thick canopy of horizontally trained plant, at least in this scale, don't have experience with big lights. somebody suggested many threads ago about using some shade tolerating plant as cover crop in that kind of situation. i have no ideas what that might be.
the clover that survives doesn't fade like the main plant. i don't know is this because of top soil nitrogen competition between plants, nitrogen fixing of clover(did'nt inoculate them with the bacteria) or senescence or some combination, but it is something i noticed.
edit: here's a pic demonstrating the mentioned clover, surviving in darkness between runs, because well i have to dry stuff somewhere. soon i'll dig that stump up and plant a new plant, going to the 7th cycle. if the bags were bigger than 4 gallons, i'd leave the stump intact.
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TheFarm
I would suggest planting an early germinating diverse mix of low growing cover crops that will maybe become established before the canopy fills out, it will probably still give you the benefits of a living mulch and be able to hang in there throughout the season, doesn't hurt too much if some of the diverse plants die back during the growing season from low light, If cannabis grows in your amount of light then there's lots of cover crops that will grow there as well, just something that one could try, not perfect, but worth a shot if you have the conditions to try it, I grow outdoor under trees for camoflage, the cover crop actually helps camoflage the cannabis when seen from above, such as from a helicopter, hope you find what you want here and in life
I dont worry much if my flax makes it to maturity. If it thrives its chopped and decomposes, if it doesn't it decomposes and becomes part of the mulch anyway.
If you are having problems with even water infiltration living mulch can help out in breaking up the surface layer a bit allowing water to flow more evenly.
If you are having problems with even water infiltration living mulch can help out in breaking up the surface layer a bit allowing water to flow more evenly.
