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Thanks again HHF, what type of Haze would you like to see grown here (altitude 2,700m) and how are they with cold because in never gets over 70f and nights drop into the lower 40sf?

Hello Red,

Nice Altitude you got there Red, hows your UV, high?

I would love to see the pure Hazes grown out down there, she will do just fine in your location, be like going home. Be interesting to see what phenotypes expressed best for you there and your selections from a good number of seeds. Expect some amazing, truly beutifull plants, the cooler air will bring out a rainbow of colours. Be interesting for me to share your thoughts on them, see if you recognise any traits from local Cultivars.

All the best, Flowers
 

redrider

Active member
Hola HHF now you really got me interested in these Haze (pure). The UV is strong 10+, I am not sure what that means but just a few minutes in the direct sunlight will burn your skin but you don't feel it cause the air temps are so low. I will start some early next year and see how they like it here. I hope you understand I am not anywhere near the grower you are, so I hope they come out ok. I will have to let mother nature do the talking.
 
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Guest

Hola HHF now you really got me interested in these Haze (pure). The UV is strong 10+, I am not sure what that means but just a few minutes in the direct sunlight will burn your skin but you don't feel it cause the air temps are so low. I will start some early next year and see how they like it here. I hope you understand I am not anywhere near the grower you are, so I hope they come out ok. I will have to let mother nature do the talking.

Hola Hermano,

That is a serious amount of UV. The haze will love it for sure, incredibly potent flowers I would hope. Im no super grower my friend, far from it, I just plant plants is all, usually too many. They dont need much more than Love do they, and you give them lots of that, they will love you back greatly. It is all they need. Letting Mother Nature do her thing is always best.

All the best, Flowers
 

redrider

Active member
Paradise

Paradise



Imagine a place where rolling hills grow into towering mountains, where the altitude is high making the air crisp, clean and clear. A place where the tropical sunshine warms the ground everyday like the first days of spring (year round). This is paradise for anything living and everyday life's epic celebration is perceived in a way that can only be experienced not described. This is where your Haze is going to flourish amongst their new friends in total peace and tranquility. Then when their just right I'm going to chop em, hang em, photograph em, dry em, smoke em and give you a report.
Peace
 
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Guest

Hola Amigo,

Thankyou!

That is a very special home for her, she will fit perfectly there and she will be very happy im sure!

Bests, Flowers
 
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Guest

few shots of the haze im messin with. this is TomHills OHaze line. on my second gen with it, small populations but run 10 to 20 per grow.

this is a 10 kern run, lookin to see how the two males i used throw. one green phat calyx male, and a purple male. the purple male came out in 3 outta 12 females in a outcross to sour diesel, under normal temps.

lookin for a nice PHaze plant to keep for personal smoke. one requirement, devastatin potentcy, so im not keepin nothin less its a terror, green or purple:D



 
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redrider said:
Very nice looking Haze crop MrPurple!

thank you RR, there nice plants. will look great in your neck of the woods. is that lookin out your backyard, haze will grow huge there. do you top and bush your sativas?

have seen a few haze outdoors left alone, and 15 ft is normal. ive had um 6/7 ft outside here before bringin um in to finish out.

these im runnin indoors, will let um veg till they alternate branchin, take all the tops for cuts, and flower the cuts out. seems sativas from cuts are more managable indoors then from seed.

800Ws HPS under a 4ft ceilin, lots of toppin and bendin, somewhat of a chore for 18 to 22 weeks. hope to bring the flowertime down this go manipulatin the lightin hrs.
 

redrider

Active member
Hi MrPurple, the pics are from my family's farm and I don't grow there at the moment, I grow a few miles north and a little higher altitude. I don't grow in the ground here because I need to be able to move the plant in the event of a tropical down pours and to control their size (sativa). I look forward to trying Haze as I never have. Ever smoke Colombian (Gold/Red) if so how would the Haze compare?
Peace from Colombia
 
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redrider said:
Ever smoke Colombian (Gold/Red) if so how would the Haze compare?
Peace from Colombia

RR ive only grown Lumbo G once, gifted seed from a friend, and i think the stock was old, as germ was poor, and i only ended up with this one female.



grew big, but was that asian type bud, real stringy, with little small calyx. think i let her go 16/18 weeks and still wasnt done. hardly any trics.





ive grown, panama red, dalat, few different thais, seems i always get the asian type buds, which dont smoke well. when i was a kid in NY the lumbo, acapulco G, oaxacan and micheacon(sp) were all solid buds, actual buds.

the oaxacan has been the best so far with big solid buds, fruity and nice head. not a real headbanger but good smoke.

i havent had much luck with sativas, at this point i dont think im gettin real good genetics, ive seen other growers lumbos and they look tight. even ACEs PR has nice chunky tight bud.

i had run sativas for over a year, and quit, started runnin my crosses and some clones from around. but just cant stay away from the sativas, and cranked up some Haze.

pulled a pack of the Cherry Haze (CherryBomb X Haze) i made a bit back, gonna gernm um up this weekend, and see whats in there. made a few different sativa Xs, buddy been growin um over in singapore, and they do real good there.
 

zamalito

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Veteran
If you're growing indoors and don't have the reources to do high concentrations of daylight spectrum halide light. Try to look for celestial temple and hawaiian sativa from federation. Then this spring hopefully the manga rosa, puna budder, and SMG from us at bsc. It's rumored and I believe it that the fed strains arent pure but select landrace cuttings that were outcrossed to a haze or something then bx'd to the cutting. Even still IMO the federation sativas are very close to top notch landrace bud and grow quite well into resinous bud with exotic flavors indoors. The smg and manga rosa lines that luiz has worked grow quite well indoors.

There's one thing I keep repeating but it's something that makes me very happy. This British hempire grew beautiful smg buds indoors with a 250 watt hps so it can be done. Its mostly a matter of having the right genetics. Not meaning that the ones you're growing don't have the genetic possibility to be phenomenal. They may either need to be worked for a few generations to do well under your conditions or need different conditions. One way to test the potential of the line pure is to hybridize them with a stable inbred well performing but more recessive male. If the resulting herb is better than both parents its definitely worth looking into doing things differently with the pure seeds.
 
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Zam, my OP has 800Ws of HPS for flower(2X 400), also just a 4ft ceilin. so its always fun to try and bring a 20 week plant in. im gettin these sativas figured out, able to go 20 weeks now with out to many problems.

I ran Reefs manga, and it grew well in my OP. great head as well, but i didnt like the aroma or the taste of the weed. was like 90w grease. after some time in the jar it started to sweeten up.

have some molokai frost to try, seems its good indoor sativa. i think alot of the problems are the genetics i been growin. not any of the sativas ive grown came from a breedin house, all from growers. so alot of what ive grown can only be traced to the gifter, really no idea of authenticity on most. the cherry bomb came directly from MrG :wink:

i aquired some other sativas recently and think they may be better offerins.

Thai from 79, PNG, micheacon(sp), highland oaxacan, TFDs Haze(friend scored these for me) few others that im not rememberin im sure. do have a line on some of that puna budder, just hangin till the seed is done.

im still learnin Zam, but each time out its gettin better.
 

Baba Kush

Member
so here's a hypothesis i've been wanting to try out:

we all know that Robert Connell Clarke was an active part of the burgoning california breeding scene of the late '70s/early '80s (it's known that he was responsible for Early Pearl). recently, Ed Rosenthal outed RC's HortiPharm partner Dave Watson as the original breeder of Skunk #1.

depending on the account, there were either two or three "Haze Brothers" (High Times' pot connoisseur R. says there were three; every other account i've heard said two, perhaps named "Bob" and "Jerry"-- hopefully not surnamed Weir & Garcia!!!).

could Clarke & Watson have been the Haze Bros.?
 

Raco

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"Ed Rosenthal outed RC's HortiPharm partner Dave Watson as the original breeder of Skunk #1."

Jorge Cervantes said in the late 90´s that Skunk #1 was created by Dave Watson in California.:D
 
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guest123

hey guys ,, why not ask skunkman , he is on the boards , and was there , will clear a few things up for u im sure ....
 
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wallyduck said:
hey guys ,, why not ask skunkman , he is on the boards , and was there , will clear a few things up for u im sure ....


hey wally, Sam has been asked here and else where for the story, he said he may write a book someday.

so i dont think he;s gonna respond now
 
Mad Scientist said:
Don't know if there are any Nevil growers in the house, but I wonder if this could have been an extreme NL trait or if it might have been something else. I'd like to stress that the smell was totally haze! No doubt about that, but I would like to know if any experienced Nevil growers ever came across the same sort of phenotype before.
Apperently the moms were bred out of some Female Seeds beans, not Sensi's. I'll just take it there was some indica mixed in then, and the fact those seeds being 'femisined' explains the number of bananas in late flower. Still the weed was well worth smoking.

Problem solved, let's get on with the hazes... Cheers. :joint:
 

redrider

Active member
NLXHaze (Nirvana)

NLXHaze (Nirvana)

Here's one for Nirvana, this girl has the thinest leaves I have ever seen. Pencil thin leaves thiner then my Colombians. This is a very interesting little plant, and it grows just like a pure Sativa. I can't wait to try it.






Peace from Colombia
 
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For Mr Purple,

A couple of pics of the PH line, turning to black here now with lower temps.

This plant pollenated with PH male, so seeded. Should finish at the end of the month. Sorry for terrible pic qualities, just getting to grips with a new cam and failing badly...but you get the idea im sure. Not a selected one bro,just a seed test, one of ten. Also a pic of a 'Red Pheno' again seeded with Red Males, just to see where these go, almost translucent red, very pretty type.

High PH frequency in any decent populations numbers.

Bests, Flowers










 

redrider

Active member
Beautiful plants HHF! I can't wait to see what a "real" haze does up here at 2,700m under the equatorial sun.
Peace my friend.
 
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