Let's talk Hazes & her hybrids in history, the market or labs.

[00420]

super skunk.silver pearl and haze 4 a guess

good guess.....lol

 

[Dr. D]

Im pretty sure Silver Haze is Silver pearl x haze...silver pearl bein skunk3a x nl..

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

HAZE History???

HAZE History???

In the 1970's there were two brothers growing pot in Monterey, California who were known as the Haze Brothers. They were working on a super all-sativa strain that would do well in their location. They experimented, taking a variety of pure sativas and crossing them. A combination of several sativas, including a Mexican/Columbian and some Thai, resulting in a long season sativa that produced great results outdoors just inland of Monnterey. The brothers ggrew in the mountains, where their crop was protected from the wind but still recieved the tremendous amount of light needed to develop big buds. When mature their plants werre very tall between six-twelve, with long thin buds that produced whispy red pistils. The aroma of the dried buds and smoke was complex and sweet, and the high it produced was very intense and cerebral with a psychedelic edge. Known as the Haze. the variety became popular in the Bay Area of California during trhe next decade.
The Haze brothers eventually retired, but first they made a visit to the Netherlands, where they met with Nevil, a breeder whos name has often been associated with the Haze and its hybrids. Nevil acquired Haze seeds from them, preserving the strain and using it for many crosses.He found that a pure Haze was a difficult variety to grow, requiring proffesional care and alot of patience because of its long season.. but it was very good for hybridization. Today, the Haze variety appears in many crosses that are available, and remains a favourite of many sativa connoisseurs.

Copied from the Big Book of Buds....

Only problem is this is not true, it is made up lies. The Haze Brothers never came to Holland . PEROID!
The same with the post by No Where-Man,

"Tracing back the history of the "queen of sativas" is like putting together a puzzle with many piecs of information that have been reported by several breeders and other insiders in recent decades."

It has very little truth and is just a bunch of lies made up by by the author.

-SamS

 

[Guest]

can you tell us the accurate story? please...

 

[Guest]

It has very little truth and is just a bunch of lies made up by by the author.
-SamS

Sam - GREAT to see a post by you /

It's one thing to say someone is wrong & then give the truth / it's another to give a statment saying it's a lie & then just walk away from them with out giving 'their'' version of the truth.

This thread is ALL about TRYING to find the truth behind HAZE'S in History/market/labs.

We are only diging here / if you have INFO we don't have or know about HAZE's / please do the Cannabis comunity a favor & let us in on it /

Even headman 420 a respected local Amsterdamer / said -

"and that is he truth about how the haze came to holland"

Your work is greatly respected & a word from you about this would be nice.

All IC's best

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

It was not my post/thread and maybe sometime I will post the truth, if I can get around to write it, but I do not owe you or anyone the truth. But meanwhile if you want to believe any of the two posts that were posted about the Haze Brothers, and or how the Haze reached the rest of the world then you are not believing the truth, you are believing in a made up story, with little to no truth. If you do not think I contributed to this thread by pointing out the errors and lies, then if you would rather I can not post if you would prefer, just put your heads in the sand and believe the lies? How does that help? I knew the Haze Brothers, they were both very close neighbors and friends of my family, I helped them with their work. I knew them before they grew the Original Haze and after they stopped growing the Original Haze. They were my close friends. Maybe someday I will write a book with all the old history, if I ever feel like it? Then you can buy one if you want to. I am pretty busy doing other things right now. And every time I do any post about the Original Haze or the Haze Bros, it gets lifted by others and used to make their made up stories sound real. I am tired of all the lies and bullshit by the authors that do not care about the truth at all.

"Even headman 420 a respected local Amsterdamer / said -"
Quote:
""and that is he truth about how the haze came to holland""

And was headman 420 in Santa Cruz in the early 1970's? Or in Holland in 1984 when I gave Neville the Original Haze? I don't remember him being there. But I was......
-SamS

 

[Guest]

Get ready for a barrage of pm's Sam, LOL.

Thanks for the work you do/have done.

Just grew out some Old school Thai Haze x skunk #1. She was a Massive Yeilder, flowered from july to december. Humongous colas. Thanks

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I understand the posters on this forum were posting info they found elsewhere, I was trying to let them know the posts were not true. They can believe me if they want or not believe me if they want. But the two posts were wrong for sure.

-SamS

 

[Guest]

I understand the posters on this forum were posting info they found elsewhere, I was trying to let them know the posts were not true. They can believe me if they want or not believe me if they want. But the two posts were wrong for sure.

-SamS

OH.. - YOU.... .I trust to know the facts / that's a given.

You are a living legend & it's our privilege to here from you.

Still SAM - If they are not true (& I beleive you) - would you please help uncover the truth for us?

 

[Guest]

OH.. - YOU.... .I trust to know the facts / that's a given.

You are a living legend & it's our privilege to here from you.

Still SAM - If they are not true (& I beleive you) - would you please help uncover the truth for us?

It's not a matter of owing anyone & you seam to be taking this thread & posts personal /

The Cannabis community helped you get where you are & your right you don't owe us a thing abut the history of Haze. You have done your part for cannabis history in other places – like your great Skunk contributions.

It was only a thread (like dozens of others on the net) to discuss what WE know & find / your pointing out errors is fine. But no matter your position or status in the Cannabis community, pointing out errors with out the truth - does little good but fuel more speculation & allow more lies to surface.

I am a nobody & to be true full don’t care enough about this subject to put much effort into it / would I buy a book? Maybe...I do believe it would sell a bunch of copies though$$$.

All my best & thanks for stopping in & pointing out the posts are not true / take care & may 2006 be your best yet

 

[Guest]

Sam

when I had aquired OHaze from TomHill, I started doin a few searches on the haze bros and tried to trace how the haze got around. huntin the history, its pretty obvious that the Haze bros were workin a few different sativas in different combinations in different seasons, they never used clones or passed clones around.

its my belief that Sam is responsible for bringin OHaze to europe, first to positronics(were tomhill aquired his haze)and then on to others. maybe a bit off on were it went first. TFDs, nevilles and shantis all originated with Sam.

are there seeds from original seed runs of the bros? I think there are, just tough to get hold of. as for the true story, I think Sam has told it many times, and gets nothin but grief from growers. search Romberryherm on OG and you will find other pieces to the story. so many guys are always puttin up stories tryin to put the pieces together.

Sam has had his hands in more of cannabis history then many realize, do you know he was responsible for cali orange???? he was a part of more then just skunk bud.

Sam if your still around, and have time, how about a short description of the Silver Blue pheno of haze


CBF

 

[Guest]

This sort of stuff really interests me. Please fill us in Sam. I'd luv to know

 

[Guest]

now the truth is out, sam gave nevil the haze seeds or the cuttings, the rest is history. and by the way, i lived in santa clara just over hill from santa cruz in the mid-late 70's. my friends there had a strain they called the "grease" it was something else at the time

 

[Guest]

Simply put,
Sam's right.

To anyone who doesn't know:
Sam's the Original Real Deal.

When Sam posts,the best thing to do is:
Read and learn.

He's an invaluable resource,and just having him post here is a privledge,and we should accord him the due respect that a cannabis pioneer in our midst deserves.



Thanks.

 

[Guest]

Hello,

By the way, Sam was not the only one who brought pure original Haze seeds from the US to Holland.
But I'm not the one who will tell you a name...maybe Sam will, if he really care about the truth.

Comments such as that are week and childish.

I think it is lame when people try to present themselves as if they have all the knowledge, when in reality it appears as if they just try to be clever.

If you are so against misinformation and have knowledge of a subject, concerning a thread you chose to post in, why would you not state it?

- T. Student

 

[guest123]

when growing the haze from tom hill , i realised that it was almost the exact same as the mango sativa we grow here often , im not sure if the original source was the same ...
one small difference is the haze from tom hill has a shorter flowering time and has trouble revegging outdoors where the native mango sativa will reveg easily even under 12 hrs ...
i wonder if these strains are related , the similarity is amazing ...

 

[Guest]

hey wally, your mango down under resemble this plant at all?

heres a few shots of the best haze female outta ten of TomHills line. fresh tropical fruity aroma(mango, papaya). taste is kinda hard to describe, not sweet, but you get the tropical breeze or somethin like that with a haze bite on the palate.


this plant only flowers under 11/13, 10/14. flowered this plant from sprout under 12/12, never would flip with the other haze so put it back in veg room. planted outdoors, and flowered late aug early sept, in late october we dug it up and put under 11/13 to finish.




shes a headbanger with a strong pop to the noggin every toke. dont need much of this one in a sittin



CBF

 

[truecannabliss]

Kush x Haze

Kush x Haze

Hey all, the minute i read that pure haze taste like pine it confirmed how haze dominant my kush x Haze.....smells and taste so much like pine its crazy, this is a pic of her (i will get up some bud pics but she is the most stringy crazy wispy bud ive ever seen)

The seeds came from celebrity seeds (Amstedammer from the Flying Dutchman and cannabis college) and it is this that even more so leads me to believe it is probably the original haze used for this cross.....i flowered her for just over 14 weeks and she was around 10x taller when finished than she was when she went into 12/12 so a real difficult one to keep in check.
Great smoke.......keep an eye out for a smoke report.
Peace

 

[OG bub]

I enjoy a good Haze


Deep spicey "ol skool pot" taste. All Haze


Shes a kreeper. as you finish a log, you wonder 'am I gonna be TOO high?'


just onna those cerebral things..

Peace, OG bub.

 

[guest123]

i found it not worth growing indoors , the taste never really is as good as outdoor , nor are the buds ... as is the case with many sativas like that ... imho ...



i crossed the mango sativa plant above to a male afghani , resulting in the plants you see below ...