Werner Karl H
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asking for help...
what could this be?
i thought about lockout, PH, fungus, aliens...
what could this be?
i thought about lockout, PH, fungus, aliens...
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BigBozat
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asking for help...
what could this be?
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i thought about lockout, PH, fungus, aliens...
Well, your early pics seemed to be showing greater effect on older/lower growth, which (ignoring insects/pathogens, for now) implicates a mobile nute (N, P, K, among others... and on first blush, maybe K?)
The last pic shows more clearly mottled necrotic spotting, and the leaf tip & margin browning, on somewhat newer/higher growth... which makes me think Mag, or maybe more likely Moly? Do the leaves "cup" upwards? Or do they have a raised 'puckered' surface?
Mag defs can sometimes sorta look like K def for a bit..
Early symptoms of Moly def can look like N def...
What can u tell us about the grow, what have you noticed, progression, etc.?
Where is Stihgnobevoli, he's better at this?
[Don't mean to volunteer anybody else's attention... just sayin I'm no expert, and if a more experienced voice [like Stihg] weighs in, listen cuz he's pretty good at diagnosing]
asking for help...
what could this be?
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i thought about lockout, PH, fungus, aliens...
mostly phosphorous and magensium. might be calcium hiding in there too hard to see on the angle of the leaves. what are you first couple of weeks in flower? just up your bloom food a little bit more. watch for more yellowing leaves near the bottom of the plant. means more magnesium. phosphorous is that V shaped burning along the tip of the leaf. calcium is random brown spots in the leaves closest to the newest growth. or roughly top 2/3 of plant on the largest fan leaves first.
CanadianHarvest
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Hi guys. I think i have some lockout/ph problems going on.
Promix hp soiless media
advanced nutes grow micro bloom ( ive only fed them 3 times in their lives @ 1.5ML/L
5-10% worm casting mixed into soil
temp 72 humidity 60%
Promix hp soiless media
advanced nutes grow micro bloom ( ive only fed them 3 times in their lives @ 1.5ML/L
5-10% worm casting mixed into soil
temp 72 humidity 60%
BigBozat
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Let's see... looks like it's affecting new growth at the top first, so prolly implicates an immobile nute. Interveinal chlorosis, starting from the base of the leaf and working up/out towards the tip & leaf margins...
My first bet would be iron (Fe), but...
Got any pH readings?
Iron and manganese & zinc deficiencies often occur together, and are usually from a high pH.
CanadianHarvest
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Sure Do! 7.8 tap water.
I ph i to about 6. Yellow on the Genaral hydro Drops.
i also use the ph perfect nutrients. So they try to ph themselfs to 5.8
CanadianHarvest
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update. plants are stil getting more veiny and yellow!
BigBozat
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What, if anything, did you decide to try?
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If nothing, then - as discussed @ other thread - your medium is nute lite, you've only fed 3 times for plants a couple months old, so feed 'em (whether to ditch the AN for GO, up to you)... and do a CalMag + chelated iron foliar supplementation. I'm still thinking it's an early stage multi def - Cal, Fe, maybe some others that are hard to see thru the Ca, Fe?.. but I don't necessarily think its all due to excess P (eg, where would the excess P have come from?).
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CanadianHarvest
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i fed them with 1/4 strength nutes. they seem to got worse...
BigBozat
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Next: Try the foliar application of CalMag+ iron...
CanadianHarvest
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well the plants are still looking like sh(T
what exactly is this issue you're trying to show off in these pictures canadian? i see you're posting pictures of leaves over and over. but i'm not seeing the issue. i\m not trying to be a funny guy, you say you might have some ph lockout issues. why do you say that? these plants look for the most part fine to me. i'm not in your garden so you should probably give some symptoms.
CanadianHarvest
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Hey Bevoli..... symtoms are as follows.
SLOW growth.........veiny leaves. they arnt smooth they are all ridged and bumpy. older fan leaves are not affected.
my stems feel like wood. like not soft and bendy like normal. if i wanted to clone this plant i dont think it would because its honestly like a chopstick!
stems that connect the leaves to main stem are purple.
SLOW growth.........veiny leaves. they arnt smooth they are all ridged and bumpy. older fan leaves are not affected.
my stems feel like wood. like not soft and bendy like normal. if i wanted to clone this plant i dont think it would because its honestly like a chopstick!
stems that connect the leaves to main stem are purple.
those all sound like normal growing patterns. new leaves are generally more pale than the old leaves, especially when you go into flowering. new leaves are always wrinckled then they stretch out and get smooth. purple stems literally means nothing. could be cause by just about anything and nothing at all. unless your leaves start turning yellow or spotting and burning and falling off rapidly for no reason i really wouldn't worry. this your first grow?
new leaves on a flowering plant.
new leaves on a flowering plant.
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CanadianHarvest
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We FIgured it out!!!!!!!!!!! PH IS WAY TO LOW. i wasnt letting the water sit in the pots long enough before testing the run off. like i would just keep dumping untill i saw runoff. test it. and it was always the same as my IN ph. NOW><..... this time i watered soaked the pot. but no run off. came back in 20 mins and watered till run off. GUESS WHAT??????? ph in was 7............. ph out..............5 ... dun dun dun!!!!!! 
Sooo how do i go about fixing this? do i flush with just plain h20 or do i add like a 1/4 strength?
I also have a fishtank.... because i have so many rocks and coral in there.... ph is like 8.
good aged water for a flush from the fish tank?
or 7.8 ph out of the tap. Thing is i will not be able to age it. ( not enough bottles) so it will have some clorine in it. Im growing with salt based ferts so microbs are a huge deal.
Thanks for all your help guys!!!!
Sooo how do i go about fixing this? do i flush with just plain h20 or do i add like a 1/4 strength?
I also have a fishtank.... because i have so many rocks and coral in there.... ph is like 8.
good aged water for a flush from the fish tank?
or 7.8 ph out of the tap. Thing is i will not be able to age it. ( not enough bottles) so it will have some clorine in it. Im growing with salt based ferts so microbs are a huge deal.
Thanks for all your help guys!!!!
i missed the slow growth part originally, sorry that part is not normal growth patterns. glad you figured out what the issue was. what medium are you using? soil? like organic dirt? you can use lime according to the directions on the package. top dress with a little, it takes about 2 weeks to break down fully. but if you mix some with water and water it in, some portion of it takes effect immediately.
CanadianHarvest
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