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Ca++
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Humidity - Wikipedia
@Ca++
You just went at the other guy telling how people avoid topics that go beyond their heads.
Are you now doing the same, avoiding the issue? This isn’t so difficult, is it. A simple test you can do right at home.
I asked, did you put your RH meter close/under your led light for several minutes and see what happens to the RH%, like i told you to do few days ago. Yes or No?
You claimed that plants are only yellowing cause the led light is too intense and mess up the plant photosynthetically, that it has nothing to do with heat radiation from the leds.
RH meter isn’t photosynthetic like plants are, so why does it show a dehydration issue of the surrounding air in the warm radiation of the led light? Explain.
If the RH% goes down dramatically right under the lights what do you thing will happen in these hot spots (beams) leds create?
You just went at the other guy telling how people avoid topics that go beyond their heads.
Are you now doing the same, avoiding the issue? This isn’t so difficult, is it. A simple test you can do right at home.
I asked, did you put your RH meter close/under your led light for several minutes and see what happens to the RH%, like i told you to do few days ago. Yes or No?
You claimed that plants are only yellowing cause the led light is too intense and mess up the plant photosynthetically, that it has nothing to do with heat radiation from the leds.
RH meter isn’t photosynthetic like plants are, so why does it show a dehydration issue of the surrounding air in the warm radiation of the led light? Explain.
If the RH% goes down dramatically right under the lights what do you thing will happen in these hot spots (beams) leds create?
Ca++
Well-known member
You told me did you?
Do you think I read even half your posts?
What you ask is in the link. It's the relative part of relative humidity.
LEDs loose most of their heat through convection
I was really quite happy when you were saying I was blocked. What happened to that? I delete your messages without reading them, and ignore most of your posts, but don't presume me not blocking you means I want to talk to you. It has no worth. So why bother?
Read the wiki. I'm not typing it out, or doing experiments I know the answer to. Congratulations though. In 30 years of surfing far too much, you educated me to the fact some people really are not worth any of my time.
Do you think I read even half your posts?
What you ask is in the link. It's the relative part of relative humidity.
LEDs loose most of their heat through convection
I was really quite happy when you were saying I was blocked. What happened to that? I delete your messages without reading them, and ignore most of your posts, but don't presume me not blocking you means I want to talk to you. It has no worth. So why bother?
Read the wiki. I'm not typing it out, or doing experiments I know the answer to. Congratulations though. In 30 years of surfing far too much, you educated me to the fact some people really are not worth any of my time.
Convection.
Yes, This is exactly what i have been saying all along; led-photons – which also act as carriers of heat radiation- need enough air between the light source and the canopy so that they have cooled down enough before they hit the plant tissue.
..And that photons from leds travel in concentrated beams which create hot spots that warm up the tissue if the leds are too close to the canopy (too much wattage).
What happened to your claim it was because of too much “light”?!
I have never blocked anyone on icmag and never told anyone i was going to. Again you’re just making things up.
You read my posts only when it’s convenient for you, huh? When i challenge you because of your moronic claims, your reply is “i don't read your posts”. You’re such a two bit clown.
Convection ...thank you for finally getting it.
How long have you mocked me publically regarding this topic? Weeks. Making all sorts of false claims about what i have said. Till you just now - indirectly, like a complete pussy - admit that what i have been saying was right along. You f-ing two bit troll.
Convection. ..not increased photosynthesis like you claim in the above quote.
Yes, This is exactly what i have been saying all along; led-photons – which also act as carriers of heat radiation- need enough air between the light source and the canopy so that they have cooled down enough before they hit the plant tissue.
..And that photons from leds travel in concentrated beams which create hot spots that warm up the tissue if the leds are too close to the canopy (too much wattage).
What happened to your claim it was because of too much “light”?!
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I have never blocked anyone on icmag and never told anyone i was going to. Again you’re just making things up.
You read my posts only when it’s convenient for you, huh? When i challenge you because of your moronic claims, your reply is “i don't read your posts”. You’re such a two bit clown.
Convection ...thank you for finally getting it.
How long have you mocked me publically regarding this topic? Weeks. Making all sorts of false claims about what i have said. Till you just now - indirectly, like a complete pussy - admit that what i have been saying was right along. You f-ing two bit troll.
Convection. ..not increased photosynthesis like you claim in the above quote.
You said it yourself.
You should try reading the plants instead of shit on the internet, how about that.
Stop talking about me. You mock me in your posts to others, like in the above quote with made up claims, but then you don’t want to talk to me directly, cause you know i just schooled your petty pseudo-intelligent arse.
Convection. What a difficult thing to comprehend, ay...did your face go red and tingly when you finally realised that fact?!
Hah-haaaSTFU, two bit.
Here’s University of California, Santa Barbara, for you @Ca++
Does the sun (..or LED LIGHTS) heat the air in our atmosphere directly?
The sun (..or Led lights) does in fact heat up the air in our atmosphere directly because the light that the sun (..or Led lights) produces carries energy..
..Light is made up of photons ( = the carriers, two bit), tiny packets of electromagnetic radiation. These photons can be absorbed by molecules in the atmosphere (..or in the plant tissue, two bit) , causing the molecules to have higher energy; on a larger scale, that means that the air in the atmosphere (..or plant tissue) is heating up.
http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=6926
Does the sun (..or LED LIGHTS) heat the air in our atmosphere directly?
The sun (..or Led lights) does in fact heat up the air in our atmosphere directly because the light that the sun (..or Led lights) produces carries energy..
..Light is made up of photons ( = the carriers, two bit), tiny packets of electromagnetic radiation. These photons can be absorbed by molecules in the atmosphere (..or in the plant tissue, two bit) , causing the molecules to have higher energy; on a larger scale, that means that the air in the atmosphere (..or plant tissue) is heating up.
http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=6926
indica193
Member
neil de grasse right here ..
>" I'm talking about light in a way you are now having to google."
show us then, sensei ...
> "I'm really in disbelief. You know the flat earth society was set up by intellectuals, just to take the piss out of people like you. They would fucking love this."
Much wow, very intellectual, nobody could even see this, you're so smart.
So should we light up our plants with gamma rays? Or other invisible light that you deem right ? Very smart of you to see what a thousand other scientists didn't see (muh moonlanding technology was lost, nasa must be wrong)
lmao
L.E: did you measure that rainbow light ? How did you "observe" the photons going thru the droplets? Did you measure the photons energy state from your balcony ?
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Brother Nature
Well-known member
Hey, you guys are all smart, but perhaps you could get back to arguing the topic at hand and stop trying to measure your dicks? Or, better yet, we could let this pathetic attempt at a troll thread die a much needed death.. 
Convection and photon beam hot spots are very much on the topic of the issue with leds and the issue Snakedope was ranting about. Some are just a bit slow to get around that.Hey, you guys are all smart, but perhaps you could get back to arguing the topic at hand and stop trying to measure your dicks? Or, better yet, we could let this pathetic attempt at a troll thread die a much needed death..
I have noticed “headless trics” on some people’s led buds, now that Snakey brought it up. You just need to blast your buds quite badly to get those, and prolly have your environment a bit off.. So if you think the topic is pointless, then you don’t really understand it either. Well done. We really need more of your kind in this thread.
Your comment is also just pointless off topic trolling, so put your dick back in your pants, bro. You’re just as silly as the rest of us, thou you clearly wanted to give the impression that you’re more mature.
Do you have anything valuable to add to the convo? No? ..then F off.
mm4n
Well-known member
So, if I have understood how LEDs works, the problem can be solved with a simple translucent film (diffraction). Or not?
So I'm still hanging in there. One tiny plant that has survived a reveg out of the 3 I bloomed. Still playing with the 33 watt GE LED bulbs.
Not impressed yet. Something is definitely missing. Mostly the flavor. I really think it has to do with the LEDs I'm using. I've never struggled so much. I had to supplement them with reptile or incandescent style bulbs to get the interveinal chlorosis to go away. I tried lots of things for a year before giving up on using just the GE's alone.
I'm about to go with some CFL's up close to get the revegging to pop like a super crop and then play with microscale leds.
Laugh if you want but I was proud to get the first 14 grams I got with my 150w setup I've been running for almost 2 years. Even if it tasted like hay. lmao.
I shoulda ditched them a long time ago but I'm a bit stubborn and wanting to use LED instead of the high pressure bulbs. After a 7 year hiatus it just took me awhile to be confident in saying it was the bulbs.
Not impressed yet. Something is definitely missing. Mostly the flavor. I really think it has to do with the LEDs I'm using. I've never struggled so much. I had to supplement them with reptile or incandescent style bulbs to get the interveinal chlorosis to go away. I tried lots of things for a year before giving up on using just the GE's alone.
I'm about to go with some CFL's up close to get the revegging to pop like a super crop and then play with microscale leds.
Laugh if you want but I was proud to get the first 14 grams I got with my 150w setup I've been running for almost 2 years. Even if it tasted like hay. lmao.
I shoulda ditched them a long time ago but I'm a bit stubborn and wanting to use LED instead of the high pressure bulbs. After a 7 year hiatus it just took me awhile to be confident in saying it was the bulbs.
Gogin_Diddle
Active member
I've seen some real frosty, and occasionally some decent sized buds under LEDs. Until I start seeing LEDs produce arm, or leg sized colas, I'm going to stick with HIDs
Brother Nature
Well-known member
Those are some nice looking buds.
xet
Active member
Until I start seeing [people who also like to grow very fat Indica hybrids like me and who also use] LEDs produce arm, or leg sized colas.
Why is this thread attracting people so deterministic about data they have no knowledge in?
Gogin_Diddle
Active member
I didn't mean anything by that, nor was I trying to offend anyone. I've been using HPS for a very long time, and I'm comfortable with them.
I just don't often see large colas grown with LED's.
I'm here for the same reason as you we love this plant, and we're passionate.
I guess this thread took on some bad energy. I just want to chill
Gogin_Diddle
Active member
Here's the indica
And the next Is seeded, and grown under a 250. All I'm saying is I don't see these yields yet with LED. Nothing personal
Sorry about the double post. I haven't posted here too often.
And the next Is seeded, and grown under a 250. All I'm saying is I don't see these yields yet with LED. Nothing personal
Sorry about the double post. I haven't posted here too often.
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exoticrobotic
Well-known member
I've had amazing results with flouros, HPS.
Very good results with CMH.
Nice results with LED but the buds lacked some depth in the effects. The resin was drier and less oily/tacky.
Very good results with CMH.
Nice results with LED but the buds lacked some depth in the effects. The resin was drier and less oily/tacky.
