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LED and BUD QUALITY
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greyfader
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very nice but what does this have to do with LEDS and BUD Quality? you are in the wrong thread with this. please respect the intent of the thread and stop distracting with posts that are not relevant.
phunkeeboodah
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i would argue the opposite, it's posts like this here that are derailing the conversation, not me showing a control in an otherwise out of control led vs hid experiment
heaven forbid we should introduce a control or two to the experiment eh!?
This thread is now painful.
this really does look like the setup of a master of scale.
Ca++
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Your pic might be the best explanation, of a 6 sided tube construction. Where each strip is a separate item, but they all live round a former. Not a tube, but just a bit of strapping, that doesn't effect the individual strips function. Regarding cooling.
It couldn't be sold as an individual item, as it would be too messy. However, the strips can be bought, and the strapping offered separately.
Old Uncle Ben
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Yep, it's a saturated market. Ya done good!
There are better ways to make money or spend your time, at least for me. For me it's sitting behind a computer playing the stock market. I'm 74 and getting too old physically for some of this shit. Got the vineyard and a big greenhouse to play with.
I do small cannabis gardens for me and my friends' enjoyment. Compared to the old days of HID's I love my ViparSpectra KS5000 gear.
My main passion is grafting tropical fruit trees and producing incredible fruit in a large greenhouse. Grafting is where it's at, it opens up a whole new world of goodness. I do cleft, side veneer and t-bud grafting.
Be well,
Uncle Ben
greyfader
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this is not a led vs hid experiment needing a control. this thread is not about hid lighting. look, i'm not picking on you. i'm just asking you to not put anything not related to led and bud quality into this thread.
why don't you start a thread on cfl's? show everyone how they function i'll come by and check it out. you seem like a nice guy so why not respect the intent of the thread?
greyfader
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at last, someone older than me. i'm 73.
So now we're getting somewhere.1. 2x shitty mars hydro ts 1000 dimmed @ 50% each 36inch above apex.
2.You know nothing about my irrigation and once again you go in your stories. I measure ph at rootzone with a seringes. I hand water. Theres no point to make automation in that tent for now.
3. yes
4.Keep trying. My c99 is not a cross , its pure line inbreed for many generation and yes ,maybe it doesnt have the vigor it had in the past but still fire you wont find near you.
5. because of the lighting of course.
6. btw my plants looks healthier than yours.
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1. At least now we know you're lights. 300W of Mars.
2. I've grown enough in rockwool to know I don't need to test the rootzone with a syringe to know it's alkaline. And to pre-soak it before I begin
3. Mycorrhizae in DWC eh? Admit it, you think that's a good idea but you don't really know why – because mycorrhizae has no benefit in DWC. I'll let you google the reasons why.
4. It's C99. I've grown and smoked a million versions. You didn't start wth the originals (Bros Grimm) and you claim to have an IBL/stable line with two different phenotypes. So they are not IBLs. You further said you open pollinated. Still not an IBL. Then you described "both parents" – which were different phenos – so still not an IBL. Which is kind of amazing, considering the original C99 was pretty close to an IBL to begin with. But you have managed to take some F2 seeds and open pollinated a couple of different phenos to create something you reckon is better than anything the world has ever seen. OK, this is the LED quality thread so I guess we will see the quality.
5. I'm sure you'll work out how to take non-yellow photos one day. I will give you credit that they look better than I thought. It also proves there are no excuses for shitty plants under LEDs. Even "shitty LEDs", as you described.
6. There you go! "btw my plants looks healthier than yours."
Yeah . . . I don't think so when you consider your plant is about the same age as these.
And just to prove it's no fluke, here's the next seedling grow after that
Coco roots. If you look closely, you can still see the cotyledons on this plant. Not a single leaf has been removed. Photo colour's a bit off under the house lights so I guess that's karma
Looking good mate, but it looks like you mounted the strips to the slotted side of the T-slot. Or are there slots on the other side as well? They do look like the 60x12mm flat-side extrusions we use, but we obviously mount them on the flat side. I don't think you'll have any issues at the lower currents you plan to run them at.
I probably forgot to tell you this – you probably worked it out already – but the black circles around the mounting holes are safety areas. If you use M3 screws, you don't need to use washers. But if you do use washers that are larger than the black circles, use nylon. I actually designed this as a washer-less system after an earlier experience with HLG QBs that came with supplied metal washers that ate through the solder mask into the copper trace. Ah, good times playing with electricity!
greyfader
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galvanic corrosion of dissimilar metals
Otherwise known as electrolysis. But in the HLG case the metal washers shorted out the boards.
There was not even clearance for the 1/8" screw heads
And that's the reason why, when I started designing my own LED panels and strips, I ensured there was no copper under the mounting points.
I switched to LED one year ago after decades of HID, I don't fully master the nuances between the different lightings but I'm really happy with the buds I'm harvesting. The smells and taste are much stronger with my new light and the high is a bit more punchy, I found myself much higher than expected a few times this past year. The yield is better but not as high as other growers can do, I think I need a few more runs before being to make huge yield.
I see there is some expert on LED here so maybe you could explain why there is so much more purple/red colors in the plants grown under LED compared to HID lights?
I see there is some expert on LED here so maybe you could explain why there is so much more purple/red colors in the plants grown under LED compared to HID lights?
CannaT
starin' at the world through my rearview
Its colder..
I doubt this qualify as the answer from an expert.
exoticrobotic
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spectrum avoidance
nutrient malabsorption
roots/plant too cold
too much calmag
Take your pick...
Oh come on, thats your reasoning for increased anthocyanin production? With love and respect, please research this more. You listed a bunch of negative things while people are producing the dankest yet most purple plants ever in perfect health. Now why is that?
exoticrobotic
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exoticrobotic
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As a generalisation i find purple buds are not as strong as green...
Maybe the energy or pathways are changed for anthocyanin production at the expense of some of the high, maybe the anthocyanins modify the high somewhat.
Anyway, that is by the by and my pure speculation....
Please help people understand why leds grow more purple buds than hids @Crooked8
exoticrobotic
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