LED AFTERGLOW

[greyfader]

Yea great advice. Just stop grounding electronics.
Next you replace your breakers with copper pipe to get more amps.

i did say until he gets the ground problem with his house solved. and i did say that it is better to run grounded.

i did not say to just stop grounding electronics. context, my friend!

 

[Orange's Greenhouse]

i did say until he gets the ground problem with his house solved. and i did say that it is better to run grounded.

i did not say to just stop grounding electronics. context, my friend!

You said to stop grounding electronics, when it solves a minor inconvenience.
The problem is that line is not disconnected. That couples capacitatively and a minor current flows, enough to make them glow. A different breaker (or turning it in the socket) solves the problem without compromising safety.

There is no context required for adhering to safety rules. Every rule was written because someone died.

 

[greyfader]

You said to stop grounding electronics, when it solves a minor inconvenience.
The problem is that line is not disconnected. That couples capacitatively and a minor current flows, enough to make them glow. A different breaker (or turning it in the socket) solves the problem without compromising safety.

There is no context required for adhering to safety rules. Every rule was written because someone died.

i did not say to stop grounding electronics. are you just feeling argumentative? you did notice that the afterglow stopped. i did not say that it was a permanent fix.

have you ever lived in a house that was so old that it did not even have 3 prong grounded outlets? how would you plug in your modern appliances in such a house?

and all modern table lamps and many counter top appliances such as electric can openers, toasters, and coffee makers in the US are 2 prong and so the light or appliance itself is not grounded. and was not designed to be grounded.

the outlets are grounded.

the little 2 prong adaptors are sold all over the US for use in old houses. they are UL approved and are not banned under codes.

i'm all for safety but we need a little common sense to go with it.

 

[Orange's Greenhouse]

i did not say to stop grounding electronics.

You proposed using a device that allows you to "stop grounding electronics".

have you ever lived in a house that was so old that it did not even have 3 prong grounded outlets?

No, I have not and would be terrified if I ever entered it. If it has no ground connection chances are that the insulation on the cables is degraded so badly (due to age) that nothing is safe there.

not designed to be grounded.

Yes, they were designed in such a way. This is done by using non conductive housing and making it very difficult to touch any live wires. This is entirely different than a device being designed to be grounded but choosing not to use that safety feature.

 

[greyfader]

You proposed using a device that allows you to "stop grounding electronics".

No, I have not and would be terrified if I ever entered it. If it has no ground connection chances are that the insulation on the cables is degraded so badly (due to age) that nothing is safe there.

Yes, they were designed in such a way. This is done by using non conductive housing and making it very difficult to touch any live wires. This is entirely different than a device being designed to be grounded but choosing not to use that safety feature.

do you live in the US? is english your first language?

i'm sure you are "terrified" of many things.

please stop twisting my words and intent around to justify your desire to argue.

my exact words;

"until you can solve the ground problem with your house maybe you should run the light ungrounded."

nothing about "stop grounding appliances" or "You said to stop grounding electronics, when it solves a minor inconvenience."