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KBS, KFB or Freedom Bucket questions...
- Thread starter BruceLeeroy
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Howdy bruce, sorry to hear about your situation. I think you need to be prepared for this situation at all times, maybe a good sump pump and a wet/dry shopvac. Maybe keep as much of your stuff off the floor just a bit? How deep did it flood? Are your floors bare concrete? You might want to consider that really heavy duty basement/concrete sealer. The sealer wont stop the flooding but it will make clean up easier and keep any exposed concrete from soaking up eccess water. Wish i knew more about the construction of your basement, could give you better advice.
google Harbour Frieght for pumps and shop vacs.
bonz
google Harbour Frieght for pumps and shop vacs.
bonz
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BruceLeeroy
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yeah, the construction of my basement is what sucks lol. it's a concrete floor, with a severely glued down carpet pad and a nice relatively new carpet glued to that. if i owned the house i'd tear the shit up.
peace
peace
BruceLeeroy
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to be honest with you i'm not sure if its ruined, i shop vacc'd it, then turned on my a/c, 3400 watts of lights, two fans and a dehumidifier and over a week it dried out nicely. now i get to start all over.
peace
peace
Jalisco Kid
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The easiest way I have cleaned rock was with a small plastic cement mixer with holes cut in the barrel. Two buckets I feel would work best, having the 2 zones is why the krusty buckets work. It does not seem to matter if its lava or a chow mix for a medium. You just need plenty of air and use benificials. JK
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Thanks for the tips... I've got some cleanin to do..
Love the new avatar Bonz!
Love the new avatar Bonz!
hey bruce: imo that carpet is f'in ruined....i've had many a flood throughout me days and once the carpet gets soaked you can dry it but the mold and bacteria that lies within it is not someting you want to keep around man...i mean you are asking for some serious trouble if your gonna do a grow with 2 soaked carpets underneath ya....i would highly advise you to rip it out.....i once left a very thin layer of carpet in my basement after it flooded and dried it throughly.....1 month later there was mold all up in that bitch and underneath it.....please if ur gonna do a grow rip it out man.....that would suck big time if you lost an entire grow to mold from that carpet... 
.....also think about what ur basement is being flooded with....its not just pure rain water.....the water that has passed through the soil sometimes being mixed with septic water....come on bro.....not a good idea.........but this is just me .02's....you will do as ya wish in the end...good luck.........somoz
.....also think about what ur basement is being flooded with....its not just pure rain water.....the water that has passed through the soil sometimes being mixed with septic water....come on bro.....not a good idea.........but this is just me .02's....you will do as ya wish in the end...good luck.........somoz
dj digigrow
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Bump!
mpro
Active member
bump
we have a good group of people 'active' in this thread, too many to let it go to waste. It would be nice to get a well formated amount of information collected regarding this method. *nudge*
assuming nightime temps are in check, would there be any real difference in cooling the room via cooltubes+exhaust fan vs AC then running CO2 at night?
100 today and it was 74 ambien and 70 on the floor, in area where grow would take place.
peace, mp.
we have a good group of people 'active' in this thread, too many to let it go to waste. It would be nice to get a well formated amount of information collected regarding this method. *nudge*
assuming nightime temps are in check, would there be any real difference in cooling the room via cooltubes+exhaust fan vs AC then running CO2 at night?
100 today and it was 74 ambien and 70 on the floor, in area where grow would take place.
peace, mp.
Running CO2 after lights off is a waste since there is no photosynthesis taking place when the lights are off. AC is pretty much mandatory with a multi-KW setup...whether air cooled lights are used or not unless the grow is in an extremely cool climate.
quick KBS question
quick KBS question
Been doing alot of reading on the KBS. One quick question though since all the information is sparce and pics fairly nonexistant. Regarding the feeding lines, he recommends 1/4 lines and two of them for better feeding / clogging. My understanding is 1/4 holes are drilled on either side of the bottem 5 gallon bucket (near the top) and 1/4 ID tubing ran in the bucket aimed accordingly to stage of growth. OR you can simply run the 1/4 lines in between the 5 gallon buckets, into the lower bucket aimed again. Either way the pump in the rez pumps nutes through these 1/4 lines and into the 5 gallon buckets. FILM action happens below with the soaker hose and the drain line (whatever size u choose above 3/4") returns the nutes back to rez.
Am i understanding this correctly? and what's the prefered method of running the 1/4 tubing?
thanks guys
quick KBS question
Been doing alot of reading on the KBS. One quick question though since all the information is sparce and pics fairly nonexistant. Regarding the feeding lines, he recommends 1/4 lines and two of them for better feeding / clogging. My understanding is 1/4 holes are drilled on either side of the bottem 5 gallon bucket (near the top) and 1/4 ID tubing ran in the bucket aimed accordingly to stage of growth. OR you can simply run the 1/4 lines in between the 5 gallon buckets, into the lower bucket aimed again. Either way the pump in the rez pumps nutes through these 1/4 lines and into the 5 gallon buckets. FILM action happens below with the soaker hose and the drain line (whatever size u choose above 3/4") returns the nutes back to rez.
Am i understanding this correctly? and what's the prefered method of running the 1/4 tubing?
thanks guys
Funkyskunk
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feed lines!
yes, use 1/4" tubing for feed lines. but yas want these feedlines to be as short as poss. so yas want your main feedline(the 3/4" stuff) ran as close as yas can get it to the buckets. that way yas only have say a foot or two of the smaller ID 1/4" tubing going to the bucket. yas can use 2 feedlines per bucket, but i would not drill thru any buckets to get them were they need to go. i use some tape to keep them where i want them. just tape the feedline to the lip of the top bucket. wheni run two feedlines per bucket. i usually have one feeding straight down into the lower bucket. or like you said, inbetween the two buckets. and one feeding the plant. i dont really see any diff when running one or two lines. tho, running two lines means the nutes will turn over faster. and that is allways a good thing. IMO
fs
yes, use 1/4" tubing for feed lines. but yas want these feedlines to be as short as poss. so yas want your main feedline(the 3/4" stuff) ran as close as yas can get it to the buckets. that way yas only have say a foot or two of the smaller ID 1/4" tubing going to the bucket. yas can use 2 feedlines per bucket, but i would not drill thru any buckets to get them were they need to go. i use some tape to keep them where i want them. just tape the feedline to the lip of the top bucket. wheni run two feedlines per bucket. i usually have one feeding straight down into the lower bucket. or like you said, inbetween the two buckets. and one feeding the plant. i dont really see any diff when running one or two lines. tho, running two lines means the nutes will turn over faster. and that is allways a good thing. IMO
fs
feed lines
feed lines
not sure that i get it exactly. as Krusty says to keep the top portion of the plant DRY (stops root rot ect ect). if you're running the 1/4 tubing at the top, unless it's deeply submerged into the lava rock it'll get the top portion wet.
if anyone has a minute can u plz clairify this for me pics help
thanks guys
feed lines
not sure that i get it exactly. as Krusty says to keep the top portion of the plant DRY (stops root rot ect ect). if you're running the 1/4 tubing at the top, unless it's deeply submerged into the lava rock it'll get the top portion wet.
if anyone has a minute can u plz clairify this for me pics help
thanks guys
take a look at blunts(bluntitup) setup for the feedlines......clean, simple, and cheap...gotta love it....also i'm not sure if i remember the k man saying that about root rot, but if you are really concerned just bury the lines real deep like into the lava....kinda like going for it with the ol bird.....just get it in there........haha..........hope that helped
somoz
somoz
HyGradeChronic
Active member
go deep
go deep
..... hello dere fs.
..... best way to combat stem/stalk rot which will hit ya mo frequently than root rot is to bury those driplines 2" at least, below the surface where the stalk meets the lava or whatever medium ya use. keep in mind 7ya gotta ckem out frequently as the roots luv to crawl up into the driplines and that causes clogging. no bueno...
..... peace
..... HGC
go deep
..... hello dere fs.
..... best way to combat stem/stalk rot which will hit ya mo frequently than root rot is to bury those driplines 2" at least, below the surface where the stalk meets the lava or whatever medium ya use. keep in mind 7ya gotta ckem out frequently as the roots luv to crawl up into the driplines and that causes clogging. no bueno...
..... peace
..... HGC
BruceLeeroy
Active member
i used cups of vermiculite/perlite for my cuttings and when they were fully rooted i.e. roots totally filling the 12 ounce cup, then i put them into the system with the feedlines placed level with the very bottom of the rootball and about two inches out from the rootball, pointing away from the rootball. this worked well.
peace
peace
right on
right on
thanks alot guys fully understand it now. heh. going to be giving it a shot utilizing the extreme air / his buckets, verticle lighting, tips on high RH, passive rez.. only thing i'm going to be keeping firmiluar to me is the amount of plants. which will be 4 per 5x5 area. i've had success with DWC with 4 plants per 1000 watt. so hopefully next run after that i'll fully commit if all goes well, wish me luck and thanks again.
right on
thanks alot guys fully understand it now. heh. going to be giving it a shot utilizing the extreme air / his buckets, verticle lighting, tips on high RH, passive rez.. only thing i'm going to be keeping firmiluar to me is the amount of plants. which will be 4 per 5x5 area. i've had success with DWC with 4 plants per 1000 watt. so hopefully next run after that i'll fully commit if all goes well, wish me luck and thanks again.
Funkyskunk
Member
heyas HGC! howizit!
the thing about feedlines, is placement. that is KEY! see, when yas first insert these clones into the system, there root ball is small. so yas gotta do it to where the stream of nutes is only getting the bottom half of the root ball wet. K used to say to put them ontop of the lava rocks, and let the roots work down into the lava. but i allways bury them a lil bit to cover up them roots from the high wattage shining down. then as the roots expand, yas gotta adjust the lines out.
the thing with stem rot is when yas are splashing too much moisture onto the stem. which should never get any moisture.
there are alot of little things that are not stated or maybe they are assumed about this system. i was there and done that. some things yas just gotta figure out on your own. but some things, yas need a great xplanation to get what is being said. sounds like bruceleeroy has it right to a tee. i dont use ver/per anymore. i use bubble cloning or whatever yas wnat to call it. good job bro!
fs
the thing about feedlines, is placement. that is KEY! see, when yas first insert these clones into the system, there root ball is small. so yas gotta do it to where the stream of nutes is only getting the bottom half of the root ball wet. K used to say to put them ontop of the lava rocks, and let the roots work down into the lava. but i allways bury them a lil bit to cover up them roots from the high wattage shining down. then as the roots expand, yas gotta adjust the lines out.
the thing with stem rot is when yas are splashing too much moisture onto the stem. which should never get any moisture.
there are alot of little things that are not stated or maybe they are assumed about this system. i was there and done that. some things yas just gotta figure out on your own. but some things, yas need a great xplanation to get what is being said. sounds like bruceleeroy has it right to a tee. i dont use ver/per anymore. i use bubble cloning or whatever yas wnat to call it. good job bro!
fs
