Joe Biden Thread

[armedoldhippy]

"fascism is the forced suppression of opposition"


i think there's a little more to it than that

true, but that is how it always starts.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

"fascism is the forced suppression of opposition"


i think there's a little more to it than that

It can go downhill from there and include mass murder and war and slavery. But, those things have their own definitions.

 

[Cannavore]

you don't need to hold power and oppress other groups to be a fascist. fascism also evolves over time, just like any other ideology.





for instance, qanon is fascist propaganda.

 

[chilliwilli]

Fascists are also extreme nationalist and follow a leader/dictator

 

['Boogieman']

It can go downhill from there and include mass murder and war and slavery. But, those things have their own definitions.

Nothing like a bunch of wannabe authoritarian idiots running around pretending to fight fascism by beating up ordinary people.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

you don't need to hold power and oppress other groups to be a fascist. fascism also evolves over time, just like any other ideology.





for instance, qanon is fascist propaganda.

Please explain.

 

[Cannavore]

1. Here's Umberto Eco who lived through Italian fascism. His 14 characteristics of Fascism are highly regarded. Don't mind the numbers to the left of everything. i couldn't delete them.

1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”

MAGA

1. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”

right wingers are usually anti enlightenment, anti egalitarian. see - post modern neo marx cultural marxism jordan peterson conspiracies

1. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”

tough guy right wing reactionaries. Kyle Rittenhouse.

1. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”

trumptards throw around treason charges every other week

1. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

mexicans are rapists, leftists are pedos, antifa, caravan hordes, refugee hordes, etc.

1. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”

fake populism aimed at the working class who has been disaffected by the democratic party and their favoring of free trade agreements

1. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”

qanon, pedogate, soros, antifa, white genocide, ((the jews)), etc.

1. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

"antifa are soy weakling cucks.... OMG Antifa are dangerous terrorists!"

1. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”

this is probably the only one that i can't immediately assign lol. i'm sure if i thought hard enough it applies to the right.

1. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”

trump made fun of a handicapped journalist

1. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”

obsession with super hero movies in pop culture, lone wolf figures like rittenhouse, sayoc, etc who think they're the heroes.

1. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”

"grab women by the pussy"
"if this was the good old days they would have dragged him out and beat the shit outta him"
dropped the largest non nuclear bomb in the US arsenal on afghanistan.
"they would have been met with viscious dogs and the most ominous of weapons"
referring to people as degenerates

1. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”

silent majorty bullshit

1. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

do i even need to bother with this last one?

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Fascists are also extreme nationalist and follow a leader/dictator

In the past that has been true, but only to a certain extent. For instance, I often point out Nazi's global agenda. Which incorporated north african nazi fighters, palestinian, south american collaborators and a general expansionist agenda. The opposite of a good National agenda. Costa Rica has been very isolationist in it's history. They must be a fascist country.

Dictatorships are generally run by a figurehead. But, it doesnt have to be. All Countries have leaders, so uhhhh??

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

I'm noticing a common theme here, when nevertrumpers talk about fascism. A general lack of self awarness. Before you write one of these lists. Ask yourself if "your side" engages in theses behaviors, which concern you so much ( fascist or not), and if they engage in them to an "extreme" degree.

Thank you!

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

The 'Nevertrumper' brain is not built to handle what is coming. Prepare yourselves accordingly.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

For those who are, or are not, concerned about evidence when accusations and claims are made, this may be helpful...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKazSx3Pysg

 

[eugenegreen]

The 'Nevertrumper' brain is not built to handle what is coming. Prepare yourselves accordingly.

fun fact....

the word "trumper" is officially a noun

imagine that... now imagine this

 

[aridbud]

For those who are, or are not, concerned about evidence when accusations and claims are made, this may be helpful...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKazSx3Pysg

Nope....not concerned....Biden is the clear winner with minute snafus here and there, human error.

You Tube can be modified 9 ways from Sunday. That's why scammers love it. EDIT.

 

[growlegal]

Nope....not concerned....Biden is the clear winner with minute snafus here and there, human error.

You Tube can be modified 9 ways from Sunday. That's why scammers love it. EDIT.

Yup Scammers also love memes for the same reason

 

[armedoldhippy]

a well thought out meme is funny to anyone. too many folks think they are "true"...sort of like the poor bastards on here that think news can be found on youtube.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

News CAN be found on Youtube. In fact, almost every news organization has a youtube channel.

The more you know....

 

[nepalnt21]

so... that matt walsh video is one giant appeal to hypocrisy fallacy. why should we care what news outlets have to say on the matter anyway?

it's simple - the burden of proof lies in the claimant's lap ...present evidence for the claim, or it holds no water.

big claims need big evidence, and this whopper of a claim (substantial nationwide voter fraud to completely steal a presidential election) has not met a mouse- squeak level of proof.

 

[Cannavore]

yay woke imperialism. this is all going to lead to trump on roids because the dems learn nothing.

 

[nepalnt21]

Nothing like a bunch of wannabe authoritarian idiots running around pretending to fight fascism by beating up ordinary people.

(in response to the second photo)

when did biden say he wanted to force people to barricade themselves in their homes?

 

[Absolem]

News CAN be found on Youtube. In fact, almost every news organization has a youtube channel.

The more you know....

Print news vs YouTube.

Print news can be read quickly. Any names or sources can easily by copied and pasted in a new window and checked within seconds. The source news can be compared to other articles on the related topic.

Getting your news from YouTube doesn't allow the individual to fact check as you listen. When people are driving down the road listening to YouTube they are not writing down names or sources and checking to see if it's authentic.

So what happens when getting your "news" from YouTube you forget what you disagree with or would like to fact check and only remember what you agree with.

YouTube "news" is for lazy people who can't fact check anything and just nod in agreement.

Kinda like when you claimed JFK Jr. had a tattoo. It's also why all the shitty YouTube video's on here for election fraud don't win in the courts.