Klompen
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that's all well and good, but i'm waiting for substantial evidence of the conspiracy theory q anon style "deep state"
Oh the Q people are nuts. They're MAYBE a step above the flat Earth people, but then again it seems quite plausible that they may be one in the same. I can't remember a single Q prediction that actually worked out as claimed.
That said, we have Epstein being murdered in his cell; we have a long history of evidence of people like him being used to control people in power. J. Edgar Hoover had a rivalry going with the mob to see who could hold more dirt over the other. Operation Underworld brought all of them together in a substantial way. I would contend that not only is it likely that organized crime is a major part of government these days, but that there's also a long chain of evidence regarding that as well. Isn't it strange how the Jewish and Irish mafias both just sort of evaporated for the most part after WW2? Isn't it strange that gangsters were directly involved in the McCarthy hearings?
The problem is though that we have a mountain of jumbled bits of evidence that our government is basically feral, and yet the resources needed to truly investigate most of it would strain even a large law enforcement agency. Its still pretty hard not to have serious misgivings about the state of our union(which was never very healthy to begin with). I may not be able to name every conspiracy out there, but I think it would be naive to assume they don't exist. The craziest thing about the "deep state" narrative in my opinion is that it represents an over-simplified and unified oligarchy that just isn't real. The rich aren't all in one unified club, but they do share many common interests and goals with each other. Basically they fight among each other for who gets to push the rest of us around. Call it what you will, but its definitely a broken system.