JLo - Kentish Creme X Flo

[Elevator Man]

Not yet, but close. The two tall OTMs are in full flower now, and they've caused all kind of problems - had to break the stems to keep them under the light, etc. It's meant I couldn't really move stuff out for a few days until they'd healed. I've got the HOG coming down in a few days, which will really free up some space, and I can get the Flo and MoFlos in for another run.

I'm more exctited about the JLos though, as they're 'new' and gorgeous...

 

[Elevator Man]

JLo photos at last...

JLo photos at last...

Here's a some pics of the girls, taken today - 2 chopped, two still going, and one already down, sadly, so no photos of that one.

First up, the two still in flower:

JLo#2 - this one smells quite like the Kentish Creme - not that fruity or musky, although there's some, and has a strange but pleasant 'dusty cellar' kind of aroma - whether anyone will know what I mean there is up for grabs:



JLo#4 - this is the slowest pheno, and has the largest calyxes, akin to the KC at full blast - it resembles some 'True Blueberry' phenos I've seen, and has a thick, syrupy-sweet, jammy smell:



JLo#3 - chopped today, this one has an unbearably delicious smell - a little like Goldfinger, this one has berries, lavender and other aromatic herbs all mixed into a tropical fruit punch - awesome:



Jlo#5 - possibly the highest yielder, despite being only a two-thirds plant, having had a breakage early on, this one is much more purple overall, leaves and buds, and resembles my green Flo pheno in structure - quite heavy-looking buds, and with a sweet, more skunky smell with hints of berry:



And finally for comparison, here's a couple of small pure Kentish Creme plants at about five weeks - note the extreme resin production:



So I'm fairly happy so far - all five phenos look bigger and beefier than normal Flo or Kentish Cremes, they all have sufficient resin coverage, and all have very pleasant flavours, so any would make a reasonable parent for the F2s, and so I'm not too concerned yet about which one.

I have a test bud of JLo#1 which should be properly dry tomorrow, so at least I can get an idea on that one, and then I'll get to test the rest over the coming weeks, and will post up the first impressions when I do.

Feeling quite pleased with the results...

 

[Londinium]

Looking Good EM,sounds like some F1 hybrid-vigour in effect there....JBo ;]

 

[Elevator Man]

You're not kidding - all are showing the best of both, apart from the insane resin of the KC, but I'm not too worried about that - past experience shows it's a cracking cross from the high perspective!

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Dusty Cellar! - sounds similar to one of my favourite smells....

'Village Hall'

 

[Elevator Man]

Heh - I know that one, though I don't get to visit them very often these days...

Just smoking a test-bud of JLo #1 now, and it is rippingly strong - dry mouth, and sat bolt upright. Not a sleepy one, that's for sure...

 

[englishrick]

I've got two KC S1s I've been vegging for a while, they are indistinguishable from each other and their mother, like EM says, looks like a DJ plant, purple stems, petioles and leaf veins, unusually dark green foliage. A right sod to clone, tricky plant to grow too, never seems that happy, doesn't like to branch. Needs crossing to something to make it branchier and less touchy imho. Not sure what to cross it too, I have an Afghan x Kush male that might be suitable.

hay indifferent

this sounds very cool,,,

are you talking about a KentishCream S1 or am i mistaking it for a KcBrains S1 ?,,,,

are you thinking of making a particular trait breed true?,,,,,,has it worked allready maybe?,,,,

 

[Elevator Man]

Kentish Creme S1...

 

[indifferent]

Eman was kind enough to share some of the very small number of Kentish Creme S1s with me. i grew 2 plants, they are pretty much identical and indistinguishable from the original cutting, which I have grown before. I have them in flower now, they are about 10 and5 days in respectively, just to see how similar they are to each other and to their mother. This will tell us how stable and truebreeding the KC is I suppose. I have taken clones of each, although 3 of the 4 rooted KC 2 clones died while I was in Amsterdam, I have one living rooted clone of each, just in case either proves to be better than the original KC in any aspect.

 

[englishrick]

amazing,,,,EM allways shock me with his lightspeed thinking,,,,,,ahead of you time imo

Wow,,,,,Selfd KentishCream sounds stable,,,,is this because the novel traits are Homozygote?,,,,,,,,,imo this could result in seeds being sent out with extreem confidnce, into target enviroments with realistic an achivable goals especialy in the novel traits departmant,,,,i love what you have done ,,massive K+

 

[Elevator Man]

I've no idea what traits are what in this S1, as it had never done it before - it was a friend's grow, and we found about 30 seeds in one crop only. He doesn't grow any other strains at all, so it couldn't have been stray pollen. Should be interesting to see how they develop - especially for resin coverage, as the original Kentish Creme reigns supreme in that department.

 

[audioaddict]

Just read the thread from beginning to end... awesome stuff!

KC sounds like an amazing plant... I love the idea of chancing across some amazing genetics that no one has... mind you I suppose all growers do! hehe

Keep it up EM, excellent to read when I'm still awake at 3:00am and definately inspiration to try out some breeding experiments of my own when I am able.

Just makes me wish someone would invent smello-vision so I could have a quick sniff! hehe

 

[Elevator Man]

Here's the final two JLos, ready for the chop, at about ten weeks (my friend's not really been keeping tabs on that!) - both smell very similar - a sort of sweet, musky version of the KC, and both are quite impressive, though I'm still minded to choose #4 for its huge calyxes, heavier resin coverage and Blueberry-like bud structure.

Neither have the classy aroma of #3, but they yield good, and the proof is in the smoking, so we'll see how it goes, but I'm very impressed with these two, physically at least:

JLo#2:



Jlo#4:

 

[englishrick]

classy aroma sounds goooood

 

[indifferent]

Very interesting indeed and very nice plants. To my eyes, the #2 is clearly more flo leaning, but looks a fair bit beefier than Flo. The #4 looks much more KC influenced, the resin has that 'chunky' look that the KC does - big gland heads and the shape of the buds is more like the KC too. If you are selecting for KC traits, I suspect the #4 is the one to go for.

Can you tell us some details of this grow? How many lights, watts, soil, nutes etc as the plants look really nice. The yield definitely looks to be heavier than either the Flo or KC so that is a very nice thing to see.

With all this hoopla about Kushes, here we have some plants that have no genetic connection to any kush and they look like they would stand up to the best of the kush scene easily. Superb work mate, I eagerly await the next generation of this line and see where you decide to take it.

 

[Elevator Man]

My friend has one 600W light in a Powerplant sealed reflector - he only got that installed around week 3 of flower, so they would probably have been bigger normally. Plus these were from seed, so didn't have the branches that clone plants will give.

The soil/nutes were BioCanna straight through, and bigger pots than I use - large square ones about 10" across.

All the phenos yielded more than Flo or KC would, so that's great news. I'm hoping to try these last two in the next few days, and then I'll make a decision as to which to use for the future. Well chuffed, personally...

 

[Elevator Man]

The Stud...

The Stud...

Here's the JLo male freshly enthroned in his isolation chamber tonight - I just put him into flower with a good solid feed of organic nutes, so hopefully in a week or so we'll see some decent flower clusters appearing:

 

[The Hummus Monk]

Looks nice and healthy...AND branchy!

 

[indifferent]

My friend has one 600W light in a Powerplant sealed reflector - he only got that installed around week 3 of flower, so they would probably have been bigger normally. Plus these were from seed, so didn't have the branches that clone plants will give.

The soil/nutes were BioCanna straight through, and bigger pots than I use - large square ones about 10" across.

All the phenos yielded more than Flo or KC would, so that's great news. I'm hopign to try these last two in the next few days, and then I'll make a decision as to which to use for the future. Well chuffed, personally...

Interesting, would be good to run these in coco and see how big they can get, looks to be some potential for a good yield there.

The male looks good. Strong branching on a male is always good imho.

 

[Elevator Man]

Yep - very branchy! Far more so than either of the parents - in fact, most of the undesirable traits of the parents - reluctance to branch, reluctance to form real colas, etc. - seem to have been eliminated in most phenos of JLo - male and female. That's really good news, basically, as the lack of branching causes me more grief with many strains than I care to mention.

Test-smoking some sample buds of #2 and #4 tonight, and both are just as potent as the others - #3 still the winner in terms of flavour, but #4 probably has the most KC traits in one plant, with no real deficiencies, so I'll probably go for that one for breeding, and keep #3 for personal smoke, fun cuts, etc. As these are real F1s, I don't mind too much really which pheno it is, as the F2s are where we're going to see the real fun start...