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Imported (Moroccan, Afghani, Nepalase) Hash photo's and discussion....

NotYourSaviour

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Back from Olland again. Soft blonde piece of hashish below is as usual amateurishly snapshotted in the autumn sun(softens up with a bit of hand warmth though).
In retrospect even best version of traditional gear from the Moroccan Mountains this trip. While it came from a coffeeshop well connected to this area and a certain farm since ages it still was 4 € more expensive than usual and also wasn't at all on par with quality before damn Covid19.

Unexpectedly strong enough but of course not mind blowing or shit but noticeable. While still what I'd consider a high grade but apart from a bit of spicyness as well as sweetness not deep in taste so more of a commercial one then(respectively a certain harvest). At home again welcome any time but not with a choice. First world problems again, innit?
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Picked up some other version, also realtively strong in effect by the way, but this was only second best and only had a somewhat bit of sweet taste.

Both traditional by the way were named after a current hype and in an oldschoolish way.

Also despite knowing better got three foreign genetic ones supposedly coming from Morocco. Two of them were of that type doing their rounds all across the country and beyond as it is quite handled as dark and sticky resin very similar to what member Goingrey
posted here[which I saw first hand but didn't try in September in 'Dam at Siberie] .

As reported before these what ever filtered ones are becoming a sorta new standard when it comes to foreign genetics since months.
Gear I picked up this time is such stuff and looking what others and myself would have raved about 10-15 years, probably a lot longer, ago. In this case this occassion they proved to be strong and all that but were very, very one dimensionally tastewise respectively had no taste at all.

There are exceptions of course[always too a mater of quantity of stuff available regarding prices of course] but the three I picked up were that type of quality similarly priced yet cheaper than the one from Siberie ; a shop respectively chain quite directed at locals
and one of the best for price-performance-ratio in my humble opinion – though while often visited it has been years I found something there ]. As poster Semi-Dry on here posted some time ago[ not refering to cut gear here]the sticky ones cost less in general and I can confirm that.

One of the three samples I tried was solid though, slightly more expensive but still lacking taste unfortunately.
The best from the so called filtered range I had in recent years were not sorta 'wet' when fluffing up but to some degree 'wet'/'sticky' when fluffing up for consumption while one's fingers were glued together ; this may not new but it is quite distinctive when one saw a range of those qualities before. Quite different to the more sticky ones[had really good stuff of course too but indeed not so often]where they leave one's hand often with oilish residue.
Roughly said here and I know the consistency is sometimes too a genetic factor. Just my two cents, no offence intended.

@Bibi40

Cheers for feedback[Tbizla / De Kuil / Your picked up gear at home ] !Definitely know my way around the Netherlands not only related to gear though[did anyone again say holidays?] not been to Roosendaal, Bergen op zoom or Terneuzen. Latter one I mention as on one hand it is nearby those towns and on the other I still recall crazy reports about coffeeshop Checkpoint
which was overrun by mostly Flemish people, Walloons and Frenchies.
I recalled 2 000 visitors a day but linked article reports about more than that ; owner(s)must have made a hell of a lot of money, let alone talking about logistics, I'm good thanks, lol.
At those numbers it's hard to imagine there was mostly quality to be had even though a different age back then. Still a reason I avoid border areas mostly.
However, I heard good things about coffeeshop Azul in Roosendaal. Bummer mayors there and in Bergen op zoom closed down all shops ages ago due to masses of drug tourists and their political incompetence handling such issues in a different way.

Your trip to Amsterdam: funny you went to Abraxas where I haven't been ages as well. Looks like Original Dampkring delivered to your liking. Bummer you haven't tried their Tbizla though there is always next time, isn't it[apart from that you can't have it all]:biggrin:?

Kadinsky: have to advocate for this chain as before Covid19 their quality was way better than now. Another shop among others going downhill hashwise during the pandemic until this very day.
At one point should recover though. Before that they had interesting offers every now and then.

Saying that their Transhimalayan was always low to mid-grade resin from that area – so they managed to uphold this quality at least! Being positive and all that, haha.

So no surprise they can't compete with the Moroccan traditonal you picked up at home though it is a bummer even their King Hassan still lacks quality due to the still to some degree as reported before ongoing crisis as this once was good.
Looks like you were on the hunt for traditionals so no foreign genetics and stuff – that would have been interesting either to see how the mids all over the place there would have compared to the other two slabs you got at home but as said I think they are pretty similar. Not complaining here!

Thanks again for taking the time comparing what you bought.

Agadir: Never been to Morocco yet but apart from the Rif, especially among the Arabic community there, I was told by the Morocs around here[as elsewhere plenty of times]that it is by far not impossible to get hold of hashish but quality can be so-so too often.
Personally only know and have mostly met Berber people[though definitely not saying they're all into it]here and they told me out of their circles it is indeed more difficult in Morocco, what ever that means. Your mentioned sodas I tried respectively got recommended from Moroccan supermarkets around here and some coffeeshops under Moroccan management carry them as well.

Personally not into sodas in general apart from childhood so I'm neither 'team Hawai nor team Poms' but team nana as definitely have a soft spot for fresh Moroccan style mint tea
which I brew every now and then at home[proud to say I got the honest seal of approval by the Morocs and others from Maghreb around here when I served that ; of course it is not rocket science but a nice tradition everyone should try as not an ordinary mint tea[no offence intended]]but couldn't drink that every day due to tons of sugar included[less sugar is no compromise but a crime in my humble opinion. especially if only consumed every now and then] as they often traditionally do.

By the way I like your term of 'basic high grade' which is similar to when I talk about 'commercial high grade'.
Just for fun: the shown Moroc above is indeed commercial high grade but I could also put it this way: it is 6-7 out of 10 of what is possible in general and I'd reckon I have seen all except for a '10' which is only an ideal anyways and that doesn't bothers me[hope I never find one] at all if you get my drift.

Anyway, again hope you had a great holiday there though I take it you had as you have been before and wouldn't return otherwise.
Cheers for the bonus pictures from your holiday then! As you said quality and price could have been better but I take it there it is just a bonus for you as well as you focus on other things while enjoying your holiday.

Let alone you can always go back to your own hard work and dedication ; you're already living your personal autonomous dream[ though I know variation is the spice of life] , kudos to you then!

Again, thanks for your contribution!

@A lil spanish

Welcome to the show! Your posted 73u looks very tempting, cheers! I do get your point about only looking for the best of the best but this alone is offensive to the masjority of consumers. Who cares, huh? Though everyone is entitled to the quality one suits best, right? Each to their own again. Just be honest, anyone? In the end you can't be everybody's darling!

Keep it coming. You are right mis compañeros de España et mes amis de France[e Portugal], especially in the south there pay a lot less than the rest of Europe as it is easier to get in touch with certain links for obvious reasons as mentioned in this thread before and what I heard personally. Though again it is all about connections, no matter which country but it is indeed a tad easier there.

You mentioned a static version of traditional Moroc which indeed must be interesting as I only had so called standard single yet tripple filtered ones yet as reported and which I rated. Hope it at least appears on Dutch ground someday as well.

@Brightful

Welcome as well! Egyptian hashish? Some Egyptian people I met told me most of the gear there though comes from Morocco but I'm sure they have local varieties. You said it came via Israel, right? So you are located in the Middle East then[don't care the slightest where, just roughly]? Congratulations you scored that, enjoy!

Personally I've seen Moroccan gear looking like that but that was a long time ago and more of a lower grade. You described it well, thanks.
About bubbling: does it have an initial short bubble when a lighter is exposed? Personally I always watch the flame approaching a piece as the better ones start to bubble without holding a flame right next to it. Also there is a difference to me between a tiny piece tested or a bigger piece respectively slab. Latter one can mislead in my humble opinion.

Fingers crossed your source returns soon – with even better grade of course!

@Sandsmp81

Yes, you mentioned your time in Amsterdam before. 'Rifman' seemed to be the blueprint for later marketing of 'recent' gangs in the Rif.

Your memory is more or less correct as this section is still active until this day. Though the dtrastic decline in offers as you described didn't happen until very recent years not in 2010. Am I anal again or what?

Definitely inspired me to do a bit of an online research and – while I still don't care about menus – found a menu from March, 2013 of Original Dampkring funnily delivering two offers for ice-o-lator from Morocco if you look at the Rifman section for exorbitant prices which confirms my thoughts I had here[while as regularly going as today I haven't encountered those two options and can't remember anything which is strange as such madness would have sticked to my mind ; this must have been a bit of a short lived experiment there]
regarding upcoming price development as one can figure out that fresh frozen material I indeed got the other day was absurdly priced as well as reported.

So only more than ten years to go until prices will have setttled, nice!

By the way during recherché I noticed Tweede Kamer as said still offers this brand and Original Dampkring crossed off the whole section while their variation of silly names still exist just not with a Rifman tag to it ; could be they just preserved those names, e.g. 'Sensabille'
for old time's sake and to attract customers without the same gang involved or indeed it is the same producer – who knows
again in this unregulated and seedy game? Also was reminded that I had some unnamed ice-o-lator respectively 'Tbizla ice' at Tweede Kamer during those times but was indeed ice-o-lator as bloody boring in taste to say the least so they really
stepped up their game and again only took 10 years, :biglaugh:.

Filtered hash&added terps: No, I was not refering to that Amsterdam shop but within the provinces when I mentioned this really crazy quality batch[certainly tastewise] from about 3-4 months ago. Though I agree again with you that some of those gangs operating on farms there produce some amazing material.

Have heard of that gang you mentioned but not sure I came across their quality at a coffeeshop. Probably not consciously.

Beldia: Not sure if it is Arabic or Tamazight respectively other Berber language but I was told it is roughly translated to 'from the country'.

@Speula

Welcome back as well! You are killing it when thinking about variation! Too haven't come across this producer yet consciously though read the name. Those 25 gram thingies are handy indeed and heard of them as well – indeed they would be useful for my freezer as it is always hungry:biggrin:!

I take it you also had the fresh frozen stuff and all that as well yet? What sifting approach you prefer? You don't care about the traditional Moroc even if it is the proper mouth numbing stuff tastewise? Any news in regards to cutting techniques with artificial flavours or other shit and how to spot it? Cheers in advance.
 

tobedetermined

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that it is by far not impossible to get hold of hashish but quality can be so-so too often.

I wasn’t looking on our jaunt in southern Morocco, but the only place that I was approached was in Essaouira. A clean-cut – too clean-cut for me – guy flashed a quarter oz when he asked for a light for his cigarette. I didn’t see or smell anything hash deep in the medinas of Marrakech, Taroudant etc but then, I wasn't asking. I would have loved some to greet the rising sun in the desert dunes.
 

tobedetermined

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A friend of mine found a couple of new illegal dispensaries in downtown Toronto. They are very rare now with most of the BM using online or IG only. And they claim to have imported hash. As opposed to the restrictive no-see and no-smell packaging in legal stores, one of these had open chunks of hash to smell and they weighed out the grams – just the way it should be. He bought a gram of a bunch of them at an atrocious price – double what we paid 5 years ago. He shared them all with me.

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But, I am sad to say that none of these pass my hash memory test and all are medium grade. The red leb is a little too red – if you know what I mean. And it is a bland nondescript smoke. The Black Afghani is too ‘berry’ to be real. The wrongly labeled Malani Charas (sb Manali of course – we were high when we made the labels) probably isn’t charas because it looks too clean in a scope. The imperial is supposed to be Moroccan and the smell is similar but it is too smooth – it looks whipped. I have seen it before – and bought some in the past as Amsterdam Cream. It is good but certainly Canadian made. The final brown – not black – Black Afghani smells like sweet hash and smokes well, but again, it just isn’t right for an original imho.

But I am having fun smoking them anyway . . . ;)

And btw . . . I sampled them all this morning so I should be HAF. I'm high but not HAF. Of course, there is that tolerance thing . . . :rasta:
 

sandsmp81

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Well I thought sod it and tried some modern methods to acquire some high quality goods.

Marbzfarm premium "diamond OG" this is one of their best filtered dry sifts, one down from static and frozen.

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Crumbles nicely and a little bit goes a long way, deep powerful stone that has me feeling ready to put the joint down half way through.

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Going to to try a few other farms and see what their wares are like, season is nearly over so have to stock up.

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sandsmp81

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@Speula

I've not seen the garlic cake yet, only garlic one I've tried is GMO.

Next order is static sift at 10 euro a gram direct from the farm, most places are charging double that for so called static.

Got some 120u Cherry Pie here that's just landed, will report back once I've had a smoke of it.

Don't see any point in taking a photo of it as it pretty much looks the same as my previous post.
 

sandsmp81

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Hope everyone had a good Xmas and new year.

This is the latest one to appear locally
Zkittlez 120u 3x filtered according to the label... probably nonsense but it looks pretty good resin wise.

Cost a bit more than the usual commercial plates but not much, best bargain this year so far.

Will report back when I've had a smoke as I'm curing the bar.
Probably won't notice the difference anyway but fook it.

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NotYourSaviour

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Firstly happy new year to all members of International Cannagraphic Magazine and its readers! Secondly some belated pictures(did anyone say Crimbo and New Year?) of our classic we-always-intent-not-to-go-to-'Dam-too-close-to-festivities-in-December-but-too-often-end-up-indeed-at-that-time-of-year ; see also picture of Dam I again had to bring up, too. Town was expectedly busy with people so indeed bursting of dam sorta.

Below to the left is some filtered hashish shown, supposedly from Morocco and all that – nice enough but nothing special these days, still high grade but to me commercial. The one to the right[pictures#3,4 and 5] on the other hand was filtered, 90 micron
if memory serves me right, and easily one of the best of that range and offered some unique fruity terpenes as well as a heavy effect on both sides of a human being. Simply a high grade product, second best this trip! Despite the ususal low quality pictures one should figure out the difference in quality in both nonetheless.


Tried some tripple filtered classic lineage from Morocco too again from a different den which was good but only had traces of woody and herbal flavour, effects were strong enough as well and all in all still good[picked up some classic Moroc on a stopover before arriving in town at one of our favourite private sources and they came up with the usual classic Moroc,
good as usual as deep enough in flavour(sweet, woody)and relaxed in effect just to be sure getting the real deal due to time pressure so no need to go on a hunt in town]. An other filtered one stood out as performing well in terms of taste, smell and effect – a scandal

I cannot provide a picture as it was the best bought this hunt.

Static filtered ones from supposedly Morocco were consumed as well but there are no pictures unfortunately though. Many coffeeshops carry them now so as mentioned the other day so everything goes according to the plan, haha.

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Next one I picked up at home in December. Definitely no classic taste and harvested in Morocco I was told. Would say this is so called semi-dry but could also be more filtered, who knows in the end?

If the latter then very commercial when thinking of what's generally available. Anyways, it packs a punch even though more on the uppy side and this strength again is indeed something one finds a lot among those grades so very welcome.

Taste is there but very, very mediocre as I'm sure, plain texture considered, water was involved during production which is no problem at all even though I'd pretty much prefer no watter involved which others, sadly too often more pricey ones, can manage a lot better.

While we're on it pricewise it was okish, too.

All in all this very thing would have been lovely just a few years back but now is the quality I want to consume at least so this is a mid grade to me these days ; others may rate it higher and I could understand this as well as in fact it is very similar already to the one I have shown above to the left hand qualitywise though I paid 7€ less for it in retail on the similarily shady black market! As said again, this trend will hopefully go on here even though I'd of course prefer much better quality. Probably there is still disgusting low grade out there as the demand is there though, shame again.

There was a usual stupid sticker on the slab with a picture and some letters saying 'Marbella Paris' – was that a hint of a route , sheer dullness, simply a joke or what, haha.
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Retrospection: at the minute I'm as usual on my detox ; this year already started right after crimbo especially due to tolerance issues so already 16 days in and at least more than 30 to come. No problem as usual thankfully[especially with my funny consumption rate, haha]but looking forward to the very first bong hit as one of my mates just gave me a ring mentioning a good 120micron variety[indoors]he obtained and saved a bit, that's gonna be a brutally good fast-breaking then:whee:.

Saying that I even again managed to consume at least good quality in 90% of my even lesser consumption last year apart from indeed some testings I had to do every now and then. Nevertheless a good ratio me thinks and have to praise myself again!
Hopefully this year brings even better quality than last year which despite the dilemma with not so much real quality Moroc around brought up good to very good gear when thinking of other genetics.

@ToBeDetermined

Sadly another fake collection of the legal market in your neck of the woods, thanks for pointing that out! Bummer as you and everyone else interested in hashish no matter where in this universe should be spoilt by the real deals not some impotent plus low in taste bullshit some greedy and indifferent creatures came up with. Fingers crossed as you know: probably one day you guys are lucky ; I reckon as Covid seemingly eases up more or less a trip to Europe([stopover either Spain, Netherlands or Denkmark, at least one of them and when choosing one destination this is my particular order of choice)or even Morocco is due:biggrin: but as you put it already if going with family as only going for gear sucks of course in this context it is probably not the ideal option! Oh, again did I mention I love this scene and people involved when thinking of those reported offers of yours? At least you had fun revealing this, cheers!

@A lil spanish

Cheers. Funnily I had something named that way as reported above and it was one of the static filtered section. Maybe it was the same, no pictures from my side but your description is similar? In either way, enjoy it to the max! Hope you had a good one in Morocco, in regards to culture, hashish or both!

@Sandsamp81

Does this mean I'm one of the few left still shopping analogue? Again, despite my still ongoing strong aversion towards digital black market shopping I'm quite sure a few of my face-to-face contacts already sold gear to me they (un)consciously got sold by someone who have ordered that online.

My self-deceit then, anyone:biggrin:?

Name of farm you mentioned I haven't heard yet but as obvious that doesn't mean anything in my case. Looks proper, enjoy that then! As far as I remember you didn't report about filtered stuff yet so this was probably a lovely encounter, welcome! Not saying though you haven't been properly high yet of course.

Your reporting of potency – no offence as no stupid competition– reminded me[just an association, nothing to do with you] of a few ocassions in the last years when we took certain mates heavily focussed on price/performance ratio whom consuming all day every day to the Netherlands and sparking one up of this type of quality.

While there is no bad intention involved it is almost every time the same result as after just a few drags when passing around they at one of their turns stare at the joint as they seemingly can't understand they're quite high but there is still a long way to go and many drags left so they give up and refuse hitting it again. More for us then, haha.

As you said that one was what ever filtered you waited for a static and fresh frozen one. Did that arrive yet? Would like to know if they particularly said it is static with fresh frozen material as in Amsterdam the other day there are static and fresh frozen ones which I can relate to but would prefer of course fresh frozen and static approach at the same time[which I had definitely as they don't label everything unfortunately but remember at least one abour five years back]though can understand that there are different approaches as fresh frozen is extra effort, too).

By the way how was the 120micorn Cherry Pie ? So good you forgot to report about it? If so I look out for that on our next trip!

Your latest buy seems to confirm my speculations about current black market situation as well. Bummer, it always takes so long for prouducers to adjust[or consumers to realise]. Again, think there is still lots of low grade out there for a reason, yuk.

By the way, as you mention you're curing the current bit before consumption and I tried to discuss this topic a good while back on here does this mean you just let it sit for a while or what du you mean if I may ask?

@bibi40

As an exception I have to report about a fun fact: during what I reported above in December as we hung around in Original Dampkring where I purchased a gram of their 'Super Tbizla' for still the same price since years as the only classic Moroc from coffeeshops this trip .

When tub was opened a stench of sharpness hit my spoilt nose and my eyes saw a black piece of hashish very different to the usual batches[though as said I didn't have it since pandemic]. Should have trusted my senses but everyone familiar with my posts should have perhaps noted I'm an anal and sensible person myself so not exaggerating here when saying this was the worst piece of hashish I ever picked up there over the decades!

Disgusting mid grade quality in this case as merely tasting of plant material and this sharp smell of old hashish[there is a term respectively explaination for that smell but can't remember it at the minute] ; still not travelling for mids personally as I can have such at home en masse! .

Couldn't they have sold me that very batch some years back when they got it? I name it 'Super Tbisla 1994's edition then':laughing:.

Binned it so it could do no harm to anyone else and immediately consumed the original one[pun intended]from our beloved family reported above – despite important critique staying positive and all that!

Still will go there as a solid choice as well as quality usually provided there and shit happens but that was a let down.

So as implied in my previous post when talking about this coffeeshop and their preservation of different names[not only happens there, old hat]while it is different material or producer ; hate to say I told me so. Will keep an eye on that. Should have listened to your suggestions from your trip but as we sorta discussed this here I was curious about it after the pandemic situation.
 

bibi40

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Just smokin some " niqa " i collect in october at original dampkring , and was as exceptional , if not better , than when i taste it last time ...

enjoy time ...
 

awwc

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An oldie but goldie, some stuff grown in Morocco, Marimberos Nicole (mot mine) some Tangie (not mine) and some Banana Kush (not orgnkid banana og) which was mines. Sitting on top of bed of 70-120u Zkittlez live hash rosin (westcoastalchemy) Z is really amazing in rosin form, it does not seem to want to nucleate/budder up which is really amazing to me. When I took the pic the Z rosin was months old and still wet.
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SFV OG Morocco



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I got thoussands of hash pics but will not spam this thread lol, lastly some Moroccan heirloom (or what's left of the original adapted gene pool in the mountains) this came from a farm that is pretty far away from other farms and is high up as well, this makes it so it is far less likely that a lot of the plants were pollinated by the thoussands of new era genetics that are floating around in pollen form in northern morocco.

There are some people that have seeds from decades ago and are making seeds of the moroccan heirloom varieties indoors of decades ago but I don't like that to be honest because when you plant them at a location that is far away in terms of microclimate the seeds tend to not do so well, there are very few fams left that keep their own heirloom seeds and plant them, most of those farms have moved to planting high yielding strains like critical mass crosses etc and then just selling them as is or even worse adding terps to them. unfortunately due to many ''neighbors'' especially the ones that plant regs or new era genetics (yes you do have these people in Morocco) it is sort of a wish wash.

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Alright let me finish this post by including some Nepalese hash, in my humble opinion, Nepalese hash is some of the best in the world (if not the best) the reason for this is simply the effect, you can taste that it came from plants that are so well adapted to the climate and very much undistrubed heirlooms, a rarity in todays world, I hope nepal will always stay the same when it comes to this. The taste is extremely minty and super ultra strong, to the uninitiated, top quality nepalese hash (the real deal stuff) may induce some kind of puking reflex because the taste is so strong in a way where it just overpowers. Effects are 100% sativa, there is zero body stone, in fact, whenever I am lucky enough to smoke some Nepalese hash I always feel like the steps I am setting are ever so slightly above ground. IMO Nepalese hash is the best hash in the world effects wise. It makes lights brighter, it makes you feel lighter instead of heavier, it makes you think in a different way etc. A true treat IMO.

This sample came from a known and trusted vendor near Pokhara the plants were growing near Lwang Ghalel
 
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