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Yarddog

Well-known member
Hi, new guy here. I grow marijuana but it's a lot of work. I dont really want to do it anymore, but my wife needs it as medicine so I am constantly growing it because of legal restrictions. I cant just do a big crop and relax. Cant afford to buy it, so I'm stuck. It's like a damn nightmare.
Yeah that’s been me for the last ten years.
I grow enough, and set a few jars back in reserve. But it’s a constant effort. Just be glad you’re not growing food to survive. Now that would be stressful.
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
That would be nice. I have not changed anything because if I mess up and lose a harvest we both suffer so I have stuck with what works. I would like things to be easier, and there is a lot I do not know or have not thought of. I have to stay relatively legal, but there is no inspector coming around as of yet. A recent surprise power outage showed me how suddenly strangers can need access to inside our apartment. Our only option is indoor growing.

2 seperate tents. 2x2 (60x60x160cm) and 2.5x2.5 (80x80x180cm) Homebox ambient. Clip fans.

Lumatek attis pro 200 in the bigger tent. Viparspectra xs1500 pro in the smaller tent.

Dehumidifier

Plus a cardboard box. I mention that because of airflow. Inline fan pulls fresh air into cardboard box which is where we hang fresh cut plants to dry in darkness until ready for jars. Then that air enters small tent where it exits into bigger tent where it goes through an air filter and exits into the kitchen. This way there is no smell to disturb anyone.

Been growing organic, using cannaterra professional as growing medium. Started with biobizz nutrients, but switched to ordinary tomato fertilizer (4-8-10 for flowering) and herb fertilizer for veg to save money. Works fine. Dont need to pay extra for cannabis labeled phosphorus or nitrogen. Would love to use a 0-15-15 for flowering but to many shady companies adding synthetic PGRs is not worth the risk. Soil enriched with DE and mycorrhizal fungi. If I overwater mushrooms pop up so I know the fungi is working.

I use rainwater I disinfect with a little H202 and water collected from the dehumidifier. Dehumidifier makes about 2 liters of water in 24 hours in winter. If I use tap water, I have to add a little vinegar to get it where it needs to be.

Genetics are true medical cannabis (as in medical strains of antiquity) most of the time like Lesotho and Nigerian, or heirlooms like Mazar or Idukki. Depends on what has run out on the shelf. I dont even grow what I would like to consume because of limitations. Maybe one day.

The law here is 3 plants per adult per household. There is a harvest limit, but it's not so important at this point. The real limitation is the space. I cant devote anymore real space than what I have now. Maybe a small spot for seedlings. The only thing I can think of is adding cO2.

I reuse my soil one time, mixing it 50/50 with biobizz all-mix to make sure there is some nutrients in it to kick things off. The constant buying of soil, and throwing it out seems stupid. But in an apartment I cant make a compost pile or even a bucket without being a problem. So I am open to trying coco but not hydroponic. Too much is lost in hydroponic for the end product.

Germination is always a tense time. With such genetics, each seed is valuable and seed stock has to be taken into account. Old seeds need help to germinate, I'm slowly becoming an expert at first aid for semi-old seeds.

That's about all I can say about equipment and supplies.
Put a good house filter on the air inlet box and your dope will be so much cleaner.
 

Silverbullet

Active member
Never said decent. If you think herb was better 2 decades ago then you just need to stop. If you don't like dispo weed then find a guy that deals with good herb. Believe it or not. Since legalization. I've made more money than I ever did when it was illegal and locking people up for growing and trafficking. This just sounds like a privilege problem. I tried to sympathize before you shot off. Hey...I can send you some tissues if you gonna keep crying.
It was better. Perhaps you just subjectively have a different opinion, and that's fine. You can have that opinion. In your experience it may be true. The first weed I got was compacted weed from mexico. Seeds stem and stalk, fermented and rolled to the US inside a tire. Is today's weed better than that? Yep.

But science says otherwise. They have documented the steady decline. I dont really want this thread to become one of those "prove your statements" kind of thing, but I can tell you I am not a fan of stating things that dont have receipts.
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Mang of us old timers have hypothesized about things that science is yet to catch up to anyway.
 
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Silverbullet

Active member
Put a good house filter on the air inlet box and your dope will be so much cleaner.
I usually do that but putting a replacement vaccum filter around the inlet with a rubber band. I take it off and wash it once in a while with dish soap. House air filter would probably work better.
 

Silverbullet

Active member
So I have looked into "coots mix" to recharge and reuse the soil. Reusing soil is what I want to get set up for.

What else are you guys having success with to reuse the soil?
 

Silverbullet

Active member
Yeah that’s been me for the last ten years.
I grow enough, and set a few jars back in reserve. But it’s a constant effort. Just be glad you’re not growing food to survive. Now that would be stressful.
True, but my particular biology needs food that is born, not grown. Watched my older brother destroy his kidneys eating sugar and carbohydrates. So I have learned to eat according to my nature. I'm more likely to camp beside a river and eat fish by the campfire, or let small game trap itself if it gets that bad. Rather do that then be sick all the time, getting larded up.
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flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
So I have looked into "coots mix" to recharge and reuse the soil. Reusing soil is what I want to get set up for.

What else are you guys having success with to reuse the soil?
I mixed up my own soil using the 1/3 mix like a coots. After a run I mixed the old with a bag of amendments and the rest of the soil remaining in the tub. After this last run I put the used soil in the garden and will try buying some new soil for the next run. Main reason is my dope doesn’t smell enough, and I am thinking it’s because of the soil.

Or the worn out LED light.
 

CharlesU Farley

Well-known member
So I have looked into "coots mix" to recharge and reuse the soil. Reusing soil is what I want to get set up for.

What else are you guys having success with to reuse the soil?
This is what has worked for me for 40+ years:

 

Silverbullet

Active member
This is what has worked for me for 40+ years:

Not really possible in an apartment
 

Colorize

Member
So I have looked into "coots mix" to recharge and reuse the soil. Reusing soil is what I want to get set up for.

What else are you guys having success with to reuse the soil?

You can pretty much re-amend the soil you have indefinitely if you're growing organically (optimally including rock dust and other sources of trace minerals on top of your main NPK choice) as well as with chemical fertilizer if you're mindful of salt (including carbonate, increasing the pH) buildup.

As the years go on a problem is that the organic matter breaks down into finer and finer particles, so you get dust pouring out of your drainage holes and poorer drainage. But you can easily re-use soil and coco.
 

xtsho

Well-known member
Growing can be a hassle but it's not hard. Growing cannabis is easy if you avoid all the nonsense. I grow because you can't buy what I grow and I like to dabble with breeding. I'm big into DIY and self sustaining.

Just suck it up and keep growing. If you're harvesting what you need then keep doing what you're doing and things will be fine.

Good luck and happy growing.
 

Yarddog

Well-known member
True, but my particular biology needs food that is born, not grown. Watched my older brother destroy his kidneys eating sugar and carbohydrates. So I have learned to eat according to my nature. I'm more likely to camp beside a river and eat fish by the campfire, or let small game trap itself if it gets that bad. Rather do that then be sick all the time, getting larded up. View attachment 19159421
I was talking about growing vegetables. Not pigs😂
 

Silverbullet

Active member
I was talking about growing vegetables. Not pigs😂
Vegetables are deer and rat food. Carbohydrates which break down into sugar, loaded with antinutrients, phytochemicals/phytotoxins (poisons) tondiscourage animals and insects from eating them and much of what's inside is not bioavailable to me. It's not human food. Humans can survive eating them but it will degrade health and sickness and disease set in.

When I started eating only human food, lifelong problems vanished like heartburn, diarrhea, morning headaches, and more. If I eat the wrong foods I immediately notice problems, inflammation, headaches, lethargy, weakened immune system just to name a few.

Just like the cannabis plant needs the right nutrients, so does a human, bird, or rabbit.

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If we can provide cannabis with the right nutrients it thrives. If it does not get those nutrients it may survive but with retarded growth and degenerated health and is more susceptible to disease, plant pathogens and pests and death. It's really no so different. It can even uptake the wrong stuff just like you can and result in a negative impact on the plants health. So this is a good opportunity to learn what nutrients you need as a human. Vegetables are not it. You dont have that biology. Here is a simplified picture that is less confusing.

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the 2 animals at the bottom have their biology set up to eat plants. The 2 at the top do not.

To feed the cannabis properly I am seeing what everyone else has had success with. I see soil amendments to buy in bags, but often there is a simple diy solutions that arent there to fleece lazy people of their money. I don't have much money, so I'm willing to put the time in to find out how to keep my plants healthy, and myself healthy.

It would be sad to think you can feed a plant better than you can feed yourself.
 
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Silverbullet

Active member
Growing cannabis is easy if you avoid all the nonsense. I grow because you can't buy what I grow and I like to dabble with breeding. I'm big into DIY and self sustaining.
That is beautiful that you say that. I am of the same attitude. Really the hard part is avoiding the nonsense because it is the most prevalent. Be it superstition or misinformation designed to mold consumers into cash cows, there is a ton of it. 🌞
 

Silverbullet

Active member
You can pretty much re-amend the soil you have indefinitely if you're growing organically (optimally including rock dust and other sources of trace minerals on top of your main NPK choice) as well as with chemical fertilizer if you're mindful of salt (including carbonate, increasing the pH) buildup.

Yes, that is the knowledge I am trying to put together which is doable in an urban setting in my apartment. With my situation I will be trying things out side-by-side so there is reduced risk of total loss. Since I use genetics with predictable outcomes and lesser variability, results should be fairly easy to notice just by simple comparison.
 

Yarddog

Well-known member
Vegetables are deer and rat food. Carbohydrates which break down into sugar, loaded with antinutrients, phytochemicals/phytotoxins (poisons) tondiscourage animals and insects from eating them and much of what's inside is not bioavailable to me. It's not human food. Humans can survive eating them but it will degrade health and sickness and disease set in.

When I started eating only human food, lifelong problems vanished like heartburn, diarrhea, morning headaches, and more. If I eat the wrong foods I immediately notice problems, inflammation, headaches, lethargy, weakened immune system just to name a few.

Just like the cannabis plant needs the right nutrients, so does a human, bird, or rabbit.

View attachment 19159873

If we can provide cannabis with the right nutrients it thrives. If it does not get those nutrients it may survive but with retarded growth and degenerated health and is more susceptible to disease, plant pathogens and pests and death. It's really no so different. It can even uptake the wrong stuff just like you can and result in a negative impact on the plants health. So this is a good opportunity to learn what nutrients you need as a human. Vegetables are not it. You dont have that biology. Here is a simplified picture that is less confusing.

View attachment 19159868 the 2 animals at the bottom have their biology set up to eat plants. The 2 at the top do not.

To feed the cannabis properly I am seeing what everyone else has had success with. I see soil amendments to buy in bags, but often there is a simple diy solutions that arent there to fleece lazy people of their money. I don't have much money, so I'm willing to put the time in to find out how to keep my plants healthy, and myself healthy.

It would be sad to think you can feed a plant better than you can feed yourself.
Sorry cuz I’m going to eat what I want. Don’t feel sorry for me

You are as retarded as those VeGaN idiots.
 

Silverbullet

Active member
Sorry cuz I’m going to eat what I want. Don’t feel sorry for me

You are as retarded as those VeGaN idiots.
I never said you couldn't eat what you want. But your brain health and reading comprehension may improve if you do eat a proper human diet.
 

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