I grow it, but don't really want to...

[Baba Karuna]

@Silverbullet

Welcome to the forum Very sad to hear about your family health situation your devotion to serving and helping your wife is truly inspiring and the genetics you are growing are amazing I am a big fan of Mazar I Sharif and Nigerian. I was just sampling some Mazar today and it exceptional herb There are a lot of good threads and people here that can be of great benefit to you. I admire your dedication to communing with the herb and viewing it with respect I hope to see you post more about your growing setup and journey. I pray that you find solutions to ease your experience and that you and your wife are blessed with great happiness, joy, and prosperity

🪷Om Mani Padme Hum🪷

 

[Creeperpark]

Welcome friend.

 

[Silverbullet]

I'm from Germany too and you can grow on your balcony
No problem

Hi. I appreciate your opinion on cultivation, but opinions do not shape law. If you read the law it says:

§ 10 Schutzmaßnahmen im privaten Raum
Cannabis und Vermehrungsmaterial sind am Wohnsitz und am gewöhnlichen Aufenthalt durch geeignete Maßnahmen und Sicherheitsvorkehrungen vor dem Zugriff durch Dritte, insbesondere Kinder und Jugendliche, zu schützen.

Let's translate that roughly for the others.

§ 10 Protective measures in private spaces
Cannabis and propagation material must be protected at the place of residence and habitual abode by appropriate measures and security precautions against access by third parties, especially children and young people.

If you dont understand legal language, you can make an appointment to speak with a lawyer for free at the hemp museum who can explain further what that means. I suggest you do get an understanding and educate these people whenever you can.

Growing on a balcony is not in any way appropriate security precaution and people that do that can be prosecuted and can easily ruin recreational use for everyone. It doesn't matter if it's cool or not. After a nice wind and storm, I've found pieces of plants on the sidewalk which I quickly and discreetly cleaned away. It only takes one little kid to pick it up, and one loud determined Karen mom to go full bizerk and call the police to kick things off. Not everyone is in support of decriminalization of cannabis.

You are growing rare plants like Lesotho and Nigerian
From which seedbank are they ?

They were aquired directly from the people in africa in the 60s before hybridization changed genetics forever and the lineage was kept going by a couple of top level breeders and associated crew that select from the best of hundreds of examples to keep the line strong. Thats where I got them. Considered uncommon, it's not something the public has easy access to anymore. I still have some old original breeder packs here for reinvigorating the stock. Those are so old they would likely have to be tissue cultured to give them a chance. The Hashplant yields good, the Sotho has a loose bud structure and flowers about 4 or so months but there is more to matekoane than yield. It has content.

Laws are on paper but who wants to enforce them is another thing
ESPECIALLY In a city like Berlin !

Subjective enforcement, I understand. It can change on a whim and then? Im not gullible like that to think that all things will remain the same, and all cops are friends. Who won the election this year? Christian Democratic Union right? More of the same.

or 3 young guys carrying 3 or more big plants in big pots full flowering and ready to harvest in the tram !

Stunts like that tell me it may not stay partially decriminalized for long. And it's good that I haven't been noticed doing anything. I'll continue scrubbing the air and carrying my supplies up and down discretely leaving people none the wiser to my private activities. I dont smoke joints in front of schoolyards or kids daycares either.

 

[Silverbullet]

@Silverbullet would love to read/see about your Lesotho and Nigerian grows.

How did you find such strains medically beneficial?

It's this time of year I have to consider growing them out, after the cold but before the heat. It's that type of grow where you have to prevent any problems, and the execution has to be good. I can take some photos if I can manage it this year. Need to make seeds. I may as well write that on my shirt: Need to make seeds. Feels like it's always 2 am, "Time to make the doughnuts"

I would consider the Sotho a spiritual marijuana. Opens the doors of perception. Has its medical aspect more in keeping calm and centered in the face of pain or fear, somehow gives strength. More psychological oriented, but it depends on the person. Some people would dislike it, others would find it somewhat psychedelic or helpful. The nigerian will ring your bell. Something the witch doctor would have.

 

[Silverbullet]

@Silverbullet

Welcome to the forum Very sad to hear about your family health situation your devotion to serving and helping your wife is truly inspiring and the genetics you are growing are amazing I am a big fan of Mazar I Sharif and Nigerian. I was just sampling some Mazar today and it exceptional herb There are a lot of good threads and people here that can be of great benefit to you. I admire your dedication to communing with the herb and viewing it with respect I hope to see you post more about your growing setup and journey. I pray that you find solutions to ease your experience and that you and your wife are blessed with great happiness, joy, and prosperity

🪷Om Mani Padme Hum🪷

I have already learned some good things, and will be trying to reinvigorate old soil more, one or 2 pots on the side in case I make a mistake so I dont ruin the entire run. Have also gotten good tips to reduce the manual labor! I'm thankful. Maybe I can give something back in return somewhere along the way.

 

[FTL]

It's this time of year I have to consider growing them out, after the cold but before the heat. It's that type of grow where you have to prevent any problems, and the execution has to be good. I can take some photos if I can manage it this year.

Please do, I’d love to see how you tackle those plants indoors.

I would consider the Sotho a spiritual marijuana. Opens the doors of perception. Has its medical aspect more in keeping calm and centered in the face of pain or fear, somehow gives strength. More psychological oriented, but it depends on the person. Some people would dislike it, others would find it somewhat psychedelic or helpful.

Sounds lovely man, great to hear it’s been a good friend for you for so long

 

[Silverbullet]

Please do, I’d love to see how you tackle those plants indoors.

Sounds lovely man, great to hear it’s been a good friend for you for so long

We have the technology. Training, Pot size, root pruning fabrics pots are an ally. if things get out of hand we have vaulted ceilings and believe it or not, the plant can grow sideways as well as it can grow upwards. You can even dip the head into the ground and mangrove it. Creativity is a must.

 

[FTL]

. You can even dip the head into the ground and mangrove it.

Never seen it done indoors
Cousins used to grow suburban catapilar like plants 8ft long 1.5ft high doing this in their back yard around the flower bed

Creativity is a must.

100%

 

[Silverbullet]

Never seen it done indoors
Cousins used to grow suburban catapilar like plants 8ft long 1.5ft high doing this in their back yard around the flower bed

100%

That is the trick right there. No fear. Keep DLI down in single digits. 8, 9 from baby to beast.

Keep after those soft flexible parts and run out the clock until terminal flowering. Then it's all about keeping the nutrients right for the long haul.

 

[FTL]

That is the trick right there. No fear.

Keep after those soft flexible parts and run out the clock until terminal flowering. Then it's all about keeping the nutrients right for the long haul.

What nutrients do you add in your water/soil?

 

[Silverbullet]

What nutrients do you add in your water/soil?

For flowering I use bananas, molasses and bone meal, sometimes wood ash if its available. Some goop from the bottom of a friends compost heap diluted into a weak tea. Just works better long term.

For shorter flowering periods I use tomato fertilizer from the garden shop locally. 4-8-10. Works fine.

And DE enrichment soil, both short and long

 

[dimodz]

high & welcome



From Mainhatten is middle of Germany

 

[Silverbullet]

That is not true

Your balcony is part of your apartment and everybody is growing
It is 100% legal

If it would be true someone would get charges for that
Not one single case in Germany
not even in conservative states and that says a lot

You're just too afraid nothing more

In Berlin you can go online and get everything you want in 10-20 min delivered to you for partying
try it and you will learn something

Its a big business the city is filled with it and you think they care about you growing 3 plants on your balcony ?
Sorry man you're not living in reality and should talk to some people on the street in your Kiez what they think about it and change your mind
Times have changed

I don't know anyone who smokes in front of a Kindergarten or school
Why would you ?
Nobody is doing that
Never saw or heard of that

last year I had cops walking under my balcony in front of the house 20 m next to me for hours someone died then another one died this year
Many days they came and investigated a lot of them
Its the ghetto pretty much here
They saw my big plants growing out of the balcony
KC brains KC45 so you know they can grow big like trees
Nobody of them cared
They got their work and don't want any more


Other friends have parents in Saxony outside my city they all grew big plants in their garden sometimes even their parents on their own just to see if it works for fun
3-4m plants in the deepest AFD country in small villages
No fences people can walk to the plants
Nobody cares
People care about not getting stabbed by Flüchlinge not some plants

Cannabis is not going to get illegal again not because of people but because why others made it legal in the first place
For big business to come and make billions just like in America and Canada
Soon it will be sold in shops taxed and everything
The world is for young people they spend the most money without thinking and that's why things will change
Not for helping someone

Consuming spending money that's what it is all about
Grow shops made a killing last year
Everything was sold out for months in advance
Think how much tax they paid ?
Many millions

Honduras x Panama should be a good strain for you
The Honduras is very good even for headaches which barely some herb helps against and most importantly
It yields very good
If you're tired of growing non stop
Grow bigger better and stronger plants
Only thing you can do

I just want to say that also for all foreign people not to think that everything is so bad in Germany and so super strict
Its not reality !
In some places yes but 100% not in the Fucking Berlin Mitte oh please
People go there from all of Germany to finally live free and without many rules
20 years ago you could smoke on the street Berlin with no one caring or walk home drugged out of your mind from a club without getting stopped and checked

Go to YouTube and look for
Kottbusser Tor or Kotti
Look what is going on there they can't not even control shit like that
That is Berlin problems not growing on your balcony next to some tomatoes haha

Have a great time and don't over think
That's problem with many germans

And that is 100% true !

F'hain here, so I know what goes on. I watched it change over the years. You may think I'm a law abiding citizen, but my whole life I have had one foot over the line, and it's not about me being scared of anything. Im usually the only one with enough balls to speak up and act. And Im just a janitor, a nobody. This whole neighborhood is full of ugly women with mullets and combat boots, skinny men carrying babies on their chest drinking soy latte from paper cups. People like me survive, and watch others screw it up. It's not a show to me, it's not about exhibition. And yeah in F'hain the wind whispers Mary, but it's always been half way discreet and respectful, and that's why its ok. Its Not a show. It's just what we do. We walk the dog in the evening and smoke a joint, but we arent smoking up the crosswalk and tourists. Growing it shouldn't be any different.

Like I said, ask a lawyer what the law means, and how that wording can and should be interpreted. You want to mark yourself as a target, go ahead. When a power change comes they already know who you are and have compiled enough evidence you handed to them to kick the door. I prefer to remain off the radar completely in case that comes to pass. And it can.

I'm not saying you are wrong, party it up young dude! Have fun while you can. Stick a leaf in your cap. And as for the future of cannabis regulation, I know quite a bit about that horror show coming. They have already written drafts about making regular seeds forbidden to sell in europe. You can be fined 30,000 € for importing seeds from outside of EU....today. if they want to. is it enforced today? No, but think of why it's actually there in the first place. Why work to put laws into the books that are not enforced. THC caps are coming like 10% (hemp hybrids) unless you register your identity and pay to have a permit, and on and on. The future isn't that bright. Your basicly doing the work for them without even knowing it.

 

[Silverbullet]

That is not true

Your balcony is part of your apartment and everybody is growing
It is 100% legal

If it would be true someone would get charges for that
Not one single case in Germany
not even in conservative states and that says a lot

You're just too afraid nothing more

In Berlin you can go online and get everything you want in 10-20 min delivered to you for partying
try it and you will learn something

Its a big business the city is filled with it and you think they care about you growing 3 plants on your balcony ?
Sorry man you're not living in reality and should talk to some people on the street in your Kiez what they think about it and change your mind
Times have changed

I don't know anyone who smokes in front of a Kindergarten or school
Why would you ?
Nobody is doing that
Never saw or heard of that

last year I had cops walking under my balcony in front of the house 20 m next to me for hours someone died then another one died this year
Many days they came and investigated a lot of them
Its the ghetto pretty much here
They saw my big plants growing out of the balcony
KC brains KC45 so you know they can grow big like trees
Nobody of them cared
They got their work and don't want any more


Other friends have parents in Saxony outside my city they all grew big plants in their garden sometimes even their parents on their own just to see if it works for fun
3-4m plants in the deepest AFD country in small villages
No fences people can walk to the plants
Nobody cares
People care about not getting stabbed by Flüchlinge not some plants

Cannabis is not going to get illegal again not because of people but because why others made it legal in the first place
For big business to come and make billions just like in America and Canada
Soon it will be sold in shops taxed and everything
The world is for young people they spend the most money without thinking and that's why things will change
Not for helping someone

Consuming spending money that's what it is all about
Grow shops made a killing last year
Everything was sold out for months in advance
Think how much tax they paid ?
Many millions

Honduras x Panama should be a good strain for you
The Honduras is very good even for headaches which barely some herb helps against and most importantly
It yields very good
If you're tired of growing non stop
Grow bigger better and stronger plants
Only thing you can do

I just want to say that also for all foreign people not to think that everything is so bad in Germany and so super strict
Its not reality !
In some places yes but 100% not in the Fucking Berlin Mitte oh please
People go there from all of Germany to finally live free and without many rules
20 years ago you could smoke on the street Berlin with no one caring or walk home drugged out of your mind from a club without getting stopped and checked

Go to YouTube and look for
Kottbusser Tor or Kotti
Look what is going on there they can't not even control shit like that
That is Berlin problems not growing on your balcony next to some tomatoes haha

Have a great time and don't over think
That's problem with many germans

And that is 100% true !

I understand your view totally, dont get me wrong. I'm just a different type. Your view and opinions are as valid as anything. I just dont have your faith in officials. Call it ptsd

We should be able to *responsibly use our balconies but that is not how the law is worded, and can be interpreted quite differently in a courtroom. Really the law is quite vague in a lot of ways and needs reform. For example there is the cannabis law, and seperate laws for hemp, which is also cannabis. You see the contradiction there? The way it's written is incoherent and vague. There should be some stipulation where balconies/terraces can be used if there is a reasonable expectation of privacy and security. Would you be against the law saying you needed a type of enclosure against easy access from say... a fishing pole from the apartment above/beside you? Where people need at least to have a basic covering to block direct view? A polycarbonate greenhouse or tomato tent? I think that's a good compromise. What about you? I've corresponded with politicians through email about such things.

Or let's look at it another way. It wasn't long ago I saw some news about school kids having ate some improper dosed edibles. 14 kids were taken to the hospital. Probably other events happen here and there. Somebody produces bud dusted with fentanyl to drive that last fear/paranoia point home....Let's say they gather all this, certain groups lobbying for prohibition again adding fuel to the fire obviously....use all this to say....

"We tried with open hearts to embrace recreational use, only to find an overabundance of irresponsible behavior. Children in the emergency rooms, finding marijuana more easily accessible. Also, the danger of contaminated black market products sold on the street threatening our public health with the sinister hidden danger of chemical laced marijuana is real and among us! Look at the statistical data from 2024 alone.

(Widens stance and brings fist down onto podium. Police siren is heard lightly in the background)

"The risks to this society brought about by cultivation for personal use are simply too great to allow it to continue unchecked. As of today, changes to the cannabis law are to be put into effect prohibiting recreational use." (Applause)

"We have come to a solution, that people with their habitual abode in Germany can legally purchase cannabis products containing THC and CBD from our liscensed and regulated outlets for everyones safety." (Applause)

"We can make both sides happy, legal to use, but highly regulated and controlled for public safety. Let's keep our kids safe!"

(Politician handed a swaddled baby and raises into the air, panning right to left followed by cheering and applause)

You can still use it, but only buy it from certain dispensaries, and btw, you can only get 7% max THC (Monsanto has it developed... just smoke more, buy 3 joints not 1) ....unless you have this new liscense paid for or medical prescription. Your other option is the black market, again more people going to jail there. Now it's out of your hands completely. Seeds seized in the mail, growers busted again and again.

You may be unconsciously acting out their justifications for the end game they have already been setting up. Laws already in place. I highly doubt it's the movement towards cannabis Utopia situation you imagine. But then again, maybe you are right. The little people win big.

 

[Silverbullet]

That's too much horror stories
I'm not that young and I know what you mean
I say younger people than me are totally carefree nowadays and it will be hard for them to adapt to strict living

how many people are growing on their balconies ?
A lot
Have you heard anyone getting in trouble ?
No !
The people you talk about maybe not the nicest to hang with but non of them cares about a plant or 2 or 3 and no laws will not change
It's all scaremongering
Grandmothers are growing
You think they will be send to prison ?
Totally unrealistic
In Berlin prisons are already full there's no place for chai latte drinking hipsters

It's about fines, they want money not to fill jails with laborers. 10,000 to 30,000 fines.

 

[Deleted member 543464]

That's a shame to hear bud. I think growing is one of the only things I enjoy aside from doing things I'm not supposed to. Lol. Even when I wasn't smoking or helping I was still helping friends setup grows or on here creeping on your guys grows. Maybe you find something that you enjoy if you can put this on autopilot but you know doing it right is often a lot of work. I hope you find something easier. I'm not sure your state but I know I won't step foot in the dispo in Illinois. Or anywhere else for that matter. The herb on the street is abundant and pretty damn okay lately.

 

[Silverbullet]

That's a shame to hear bud. I think growing is one of the only things I enjoy aside from doing things I'm not supposed to. Lol. Even when I wasn't smoking or helping I was still helping friends setup grows or on here creeping on your guys grows. Maybe you find something that you enjoy if you can put this on autopilot but you know doing it right is often a lot of work. I hope you find something easier. I'm not sure your state but I know I won't step foot in the dispo in Illinois. Or anywhere else for that matter. The herb on the street is abundant and pretty damn okay lately.

Decent?....compared to what exactly?

Marijuana has been on the decline for decades.

I understand what you mean by dispo weed. There is still a couple of trutworthy dispensaries that will give you some top shelf clean bud, but you will have to travel to another state to get it. Growing it with no break is different than picking and choosing where and when.

 

[Silverbullet]

I deleted everything
It is so tiring arguing with people on the internet
Especially these kind of germans who are like this guy
I was born in a different country and this kind of pedantic behaviour which a lot of people have in this country is not for me
Talking about what " might " happen IF someone " maybe " gets offended and this and that omg
Life is too short for that
Then people go on the Autobahn driving 220 kmh thinking it's safe risking their life for nothing

People do what they want to do incl crazy people who think they go to Guantanamo Bay for little things they have not even done yet


For my American friends :

Look at our beautiful capital Berlin
What is reality there

The drug war is real, and still going on, and many of us from all over the world have done time, been injured, and had our lives and family screwed up because of marijuana prohibition. You want to make fun of people because.....? What?

Because you are so cool you irresponsibly show-grow on your balcony and disrespect other people in your community?

Because you think it's cool some guys irresponsibly carried flowering marijuana plants on public transportation?

Because people that do try to work within legal framework are all paranoid clowns?

That's not the burn you want it to be, and most people will not see it like that just because you have imagined and assumed they will.

I am an american, more specifically I am originally from the US. Maybe you should stop assuming you know something about me and other subjects you want to speak on because obviously, you don't know. I gave my reasons why I dont use generic popular genetics previously. So not only are you uninformed and making assumptions on things you dont know about, you are disrespecting me, this forum and the people on it, the people who have been negatively impacted by marijuana prohibition, people willing to work legal grows, and the people in your community....

You actually think you made some kind of point about how superior you are? You made a point alright. It's just not the one you think it is.

 

[aCBD]

I deleted everything
It is so tiring arguing with people on the internet
Especially these kind of germans who are like this guy
I was born in a different country and this kind of pedantic behaviour which a lot of people have in this country is not for me
Talking about what " might " happen IF someone " maybe " gets offended and this and that omg
Life is too short for that
Then people go on the Autobahn driving 220 kmh thinking it's safe risking their life for nothing

People do what they want to do incl crazy people who think they go to Guantanamo Bay for little things they have not even done yet


For my American friends :

Look at our beautiful capital Berlin
What is reality there

No offense but you seem to be young.

The older generation went through different times and this involved a good bit of caution and paranoia.
It's cool to talk what is or could be possible but you're in no position to question security concerns of others imo.

 

[Deleted member 543464]

Decent?....compared to what exactly?

Marijuana has been on the decline for decades.

I understand what you mean by dispo weed. There is still a couple of trutworthy dispensaries that will give you some top shelf clean bud, but you will have to travel to another state to get it. Growing it with no break is different than picking and choosing where and when.

Never said decent. If you think herb was better 2 decades ago then you just need to stop. If you don't like dispo weed then find a guy that deals with good herb. Believe it or not. Since legalization. I've made more money than I ever did when it was illegal and locking people up for growing and trafficking. This just sounds like a privilege problem. I tried to sympathize before you shot off. Hey...I can send you some tissues if you gonna keep crying.