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Silverbullet

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Why not do a perpetual? Even in a 2x2 tent you can simplify your process. While one plant is flowering, you start another seed. So now you have one major plant to focus on vs an entire tent. If you get what I’m trying to say?
Kind of. It is perpetual here. At 3rd or 4th week of flowering the next seeds are germinated. By harvest time the small tent is pretty crowded, perhaps moving into shade response. Then moved to bigger tent for sexing. Selected males moved back to smaller tent if I need pollen. If not, I make tea from the leaves. I kind of see what you mean. A given space with a certain energy produces such amount, be it one plant or 9 plants. That is true. I'm an old man, and not very big. A freshly watered 3 gallon pot is as heavy as I want to go, if I have to move them. I see what you are getting at. I grow regular seeds because the effects last much longer than feminized. This makes me grow several plants in a go. Perhaps I need to think more along the lines of cloning and mother plants. Not sure how that would affect seed production. It's a good thing for me to think about and consider. Any way to get a little more end product would be a blessing. I appreciate this idea. I will be thinking about this for days. It may be a key.
 

Jenn

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I think you understand my situation best of all. Quality and quantity. We are older. Arthritis was hard this winter. Some days I could only use one arm for most things. I appreciate the tips. I will try that with the trimming. I didnt think of that. Now that I think about it... I can run a hose from the dehumidifier to the tent and collect the water it accumulates closer to the tents. I can repurpose ab electric water fountain pump I have to bring the rain water from the balcony. You have already saved me some aches and pains in the future.


That would be great. Carrying the soil up and then down the steps again to get rid of it is a constant chore. I have to research lighter mediums.

I appreciate your compassion. It makes me feel as if I am not so alone in this struggle.
Check out this thread on icmag, you sound like you will fit in -


Edit - Sorry, welcome to ICMAG :wave:
 

Turbo5

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Kind of. It is perpetual here. At 3rd or 4th week of flowering the next seeds are germinated. By harvest time the small tent is pretty crowded, perhaps moving into shade response. Then moved to bigger tent for sexing. Selected males moved back to smaller tent if I need pollen. If not, I make tea from the leaves. I kind of see what you mean. A given space with a certain energy produces such amount, be it one plant or 9 plants. That is true. I'm an old man, and not very big. A freshly watered 3 gallon pot is as heavy as I want to go, if I have to move them. I see what you are getting at. I grow regular seeds because the effects last much longer than feminized. This makes me grow several plants in a go. Perhaps I need to think more along the lines of cloning and mother plants. Not sure how that would affect seed production. It's a good thing for me to think about and consider. Any way to get a little more end product would be a blessing. I appreciate this idea. I will be thinking about this for days. It may be a key.
I’m confident you’ll sort it out. I 100% understand it may seem overwhelming, we all have lives after all. If you need some Fem seeds lmk, that would also free up more space and be less labor. I’ve not experienced fem seeds being less potent. I too was hesitant about fem seeds but never had any herms and was as potent as male/female seeds. Have you looked into Blumats? No electricity needed! The most laborious task for me personally was watering! Now, with that taken care of, I just have time to sit and actually observe the plants.
 

Silverbullet

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When you say legal restrictions, do you mean you are restricted to a small number of plants? Or do you mean straight up prohibition? Do you have a yard to grow in or are you strictly working indoors?
Sorry it wasn't in the original post. That was dumb of me to leave it out. Here there is only a slight decriminalization for recreational use, but still under prohibition. Sounds stupid, but I think that is the most accurate. 3 plants per adult per household, I forgot the harvest limit. Basicly you cant have 3 giant plants. If that were the case I would fill my living room with 3 giant colombians, or the 3 giant Mazar indicas. That would be a dream come true. But I stay more or less in the limits with the tiny tents in our tiny apartment. Hash making is not really feasible with such small spaces. I fantasize about guerilla gardening, but here it would be extremely difficult. Someone would find them.
 

Turbo5

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I’m confident you’ll sort it out. I 100% understand it may seem overwhelming, we all have lives after all. If you need some Fem seeds lmk, that would also free up more space and be less labor. I’ve not experienced fem seeds being less potent. I too was hesitant about fem seeds but never had any herms and was as potent as male/female seeds.
Kind of. It is perpetual here. At 3rd or 4th week of flowering the next seeds are germinated. By harvest time the small tent is pretty crowded, perhaps moving into shade response. Then moved to bigger tent for sexing. Selected males moved back to smaller tent if I need pollen. If not, I make tea from the leaves. I kind of see what you mean. A given space with a certain energy produces such amount, be it one plant or 9 plants. That is true. I'm an old man, and not very big. A freshly watered 3 gallon pot is as heavy as I want to go, if I have to move them. I see what you are getting at. I grow regular seeds because the effects last much longer than feminized. This makes me grow several plants in a go. Perhaps I need to think more along the lines of cloning and mother plants. Not sure how that would affect seed production. It's a good thing for me to think about and consider. Any way to get a little more end product would be a blessing. I appreciate this idea. I will be thinking about this for days. It may be a key.
Also, even tho you’re in Germany coming to this forum will open lots of doors for you. You may get to a point where clones might just happen to get delivered to you! You may be lucky enough that you may not even have to pop seeds for a grow or 2.......stick around, good things come to good people
 

Silverbullet

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Anything that is grown with love will be far superior to something grown with resentment, so I recommend finding a way to inject some love and appreciation into the project.

I wish you and your wife health and happiness ❤️
That's true. Thank you very much. The plants get love, they would probably make an EEG squeak when they detect my presence. I even play meditative flute music for them sometimes if I have a lot to do. It's just the never ending growing that wears me down. There is no winter break, no holiday. Its unnatural on my end. They set up these restrictions on growing so it has to be this way, running your lights all year round, constantly the consumer. It's not allowed to grow on the balcony because it *could be accessed by children or thieves. Its basicly seen as irresponsible growing to use the balcony. Though I would love to. Real sunlight keeps the medicine in the plants. Indoor artificial is just a slow decline. Has to be revitalized with fresh genetics bred in every so often.
 

AcrylicGoblin

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That's true. Thank you very much. The plants get love, they would probably make an EEG squeak when they detect my presence. I even play meditative flute music for them sometimes if I have a lot to do. It's just the never ending growing that wears me down. There is no winter break, no holiday. Its unnatural on my end. They set up these restrictions on growing so it has to be this way, running your lights all year round, constantly the consumer. It's not allowed to grow on the balcony because it *could be accessed by children or thieves. Its basicly seen as irresponsible growing to use the balcony. Though I would love to. Real sunlight keeps the medicine in the plants. Indoor artificial is just a slow decline. Has to be revitalized with fresh genetics bred in every so often.
Now I understand where you are coming from... that doesn't sound like a pain in the butt. It's so unnecessarily cumbersome. It's like the government either begrudgingly legalized cannabis and intentionally made bad rules, but maybe the rules were just written by people who had no about cannabis. If those rules bother you, they bother a lot of other people too. Hopefully that will lead to a better growing situation for you.
I love the idea of playing flute music to your plants!
 

Silverbullet

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Now I understand where you are coming from... that doesn't sound like a pain in the butt. It's so unnecessarily cumbersome. It's like the government either begrudgingly legalized cannabis and intentionally made bad rules, but maybe the rules were just written by people who had no about cannabis. If those rules bother you, they bother a lot of other people too. Hopefully that will lead to a better growing situation for you.
I love the idea of playing flute music to your plants!
Well, as you get older these things should have become more clear if one stopped to pay attention.

Slight decriminalization for recreational use is not there as a "reward to the little people" to help them out. And that the officials in power are such good people...and they like us a lot. No, that ain't it. It's about money, marketing, grooming and consumerism. But If I talk about that subject they may throw me out of here. So maybe privately, but not here in the open forum. But yes, the restrictions bother me, cost me time and money, and at the same time make certain vested interests richer. But that is the situation and I have to accept it. I'm in no position, have no power to go any other way right now. I just keep my head down, stay quiet and try to guard what I have. And everything can change as suddenly as before in the other direction. What I am doing now can be declared criminal activity, laws can change again. But for a little while at least in my life, growing marijuanna, I was not a criminal. Funnily, I still get paranoid sometimes because I forget. I slip back to those days of strict prohibition. So many decades of thinking like that somehow never leaves you completely.
 

Silverbullet

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you need some Fem seeds lmk, that would also free up more space and be less labor. I’ve not experienced fem seeds being less potent. I too was hesitant about fem seeds but never had any herms and was as potent as male/female seeds.
That is very kind of you. I have tried the feminized, and the effects wear off too fast in what we had (from a popular seed company.) Some went hermaphroditic in late flowering. Perhaps I was unlucky.

But I have a different attitude toward cannabis I want to share, and many will take this as new age BS, and no science to back it up, but at least hear me out.

Knowledge is limited, and we barely understand anything including cannabis and our relationship to it as humans/mammals with endocannabinoid systems. So to go beyond that limitation we can look at it from a more holistic way, a more mystical way. The way shamanism and our ancient ancestors would. We have evolved along side cannabis and share an ancient historical relationship with it. That is clear. If we are to look at cannabis and it's high degree of plasticity, it adapts rather quickly in a matter of generations to new environments. We as humans are in its environment. So to make this easy to think about, let's say cannabis is like a vessel that can have things put into it, and it can carry that forward. For example, there was pain. People chose the plants that helped with pain the most and bred these particular phenotypes into a genotype. It now will carry the ability to help ease pain...as the result of the intent put into the plant. Other intents have been something like social occasions, or spiritual experiences, to commune with the power of mother nature or the divine. Just as there is medicinal marijuana, there is also social marijuana and spiritual marijuana. You may have even experienced it yourself. It depends on the intent put into the plant.

If the intent is money, greed, power, a plant that is used and exploited, these too will manifest in the plant. Change it. But change it in ways will produce negative results, damaging, weakening the plant. It falls into decline. Terpenes decline, cannabinoids start disappearing, potency decreases, genetic mutations. Why would she cooperate with such people? Do you use, abuse and exploit your friends? Your fellow man? Someone offering assistance? Some people do. What about animals? Plants? Are they here merely to exploit because they are judged by our limited minds as inferior living beings, not worthy of our love and undeserving of their own dignity? Is this what is happening to cannabis today?

This is why I play meditative flute music to my plants. This is why I sit each plant in the sun sometimes, and before harvesting we sit together silently. Sharing what is beyond words. I breathe out and they take my breath in, they breathe out and I take their breath in. Communion. I look at it, actually see it. Touching it lovingly. Smell its loving fragrance filling the air for all. Honoring it and our connection from soil, to plant, water to air, to me, to you, to the sun and moon, to all of existence.

That is why I dont use feminized seeds. To put it as short as possible with a reasonable chance at someone understanding. Because people doing this to my friend is the ugly side of man.

I honor the plant as its true being. I allow it dignity. Its divineness.

Let's stop the decline. Say no to feminized and GMO seeds before we pass the point of no return.
 

CharlesU Farley

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I honor the plant as its true being. I allow it dignity. Its divineness.

Let's stop the decline. Say no to feminized and GMO seeds before we pass the point of no return.
Welcome to ICM!

From one Wall 'o Words guy to another:), that was a damn fine read. (y) I'm a bit more blunt and profane than you but our philosophies are very similar.;)


 

moose eater

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Hi, new guy here. I grow marijuana but it's a lot of work. I dont really want to do it anymore, but my wife needs it as medicine so I am constantly growing it because of legal restrictions. I cant just do a big crop and relax. Cant afford to buy it, so I'm stuck. It's like a damn nightmare.
I grew weed for decades.

It went from hobby to art form, to job that saved our home, to a form of quasi-imprisonment and insidious, subtly intrusive stress-generating nightmare.

No shame in admitting the more caustic aspects of something.

I haven't harvested a crop since August 2022, still have a freezer drawer FULL of good weed in double-seals at -20 F. of about 5 different strains, several smaller containers of strains from years gone by, and enough weed to get me through to my demise. (*I quit dealing weed several years back and don't miss it).

Though I've now come to a point that I'll need to crumble the lesser buds to run through my tumbler if I'm to stay in supply of my own exceptional hashish. (*I always exclusively ran sugar trim, of which I only have a couple smaller seals left to tumble now).

There's also HUNDREDS of dollars in exceptional seeds I've yet to dampen, let alone grow, sex, cull, etc. All of which sounds a lot like serious work to me these days, and energy and outlook have both declined massively in the last several years, so some things that were once routine, now sound or read like a prison work gang on the roadside... minus the orange jumpsuits.

Joking these days with my wife and friends about who we might leave my large-ish stash of cannabis to in my will, or the seeds, and advising my wife to raffle off my custom-built hash tumbler. :)

Do what you've gotta' do and hope the wind finds its way to your sails again.

 
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Persianfarmer

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Hi, new guy here. I grow marijuana but it's a lot of work. I dont really want to do it anymore, but my wife needs it as medicine so I am constantly growing it because of legal restrictions. I cant just do a big crop and relax. Cant afford to buy it, so I'm stuck. It's like a damn nightmare.

Hi welcome Silver, hope your nightmares will be beautiful dreams very soon😉
 
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