Hugo Chavez dead.

[Vash]

You know, i'm reading all this "bad man" shit about brother Chavez. I'll bet 99% of all you haters listen to mainstream media -only. The day that you realize they're feeding you bullshit is the day you wake the fuck up. Might I suggest alternative methods of acquiring your information. By the looks of everything I've seen, his people loved him. The only ones that celebrated his death were the affluent in the country. Let's hope Maduro holds his ground and doesn't allow any Western influence to ruin his country.

 

[Green lung]

lol Brother Chavez.....sorry that made me LMAO






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[lost in a sea]

some images speak a thousand words..

tbh you only need look at the colours on flag to know who owns that body farm..

the american project proved that with institutionalisation and perfected propaganda you can get almost anywhere..

of course people "hate" chavez

hate him like a caged bird does one in flight out the window..
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[wantaknow]

we killed momar ,we were afraid he would gain the foot hold on the petro dollar ,by using the gold denar ,as dictators go he was one of the best hearted of them ,did not impose sheria law women were allowed to be dr and educated,there denar was backed by gold,one should watch the utube vid kadaffi exposes illuminity

 

[lost in a sea]

khaddafi actually had printing presses set up to make an african currency if he could get the allegiance of a load of countries that had powerful us backed militaries which was never going to happen, thought he could play the bankers a bit to get a tiny foothold outside of libya and got what they had planned,, the country was stable and living standards were some of the highest on the african continent,, now its burned out wreck undergoing an eventual process of pseudo islamo fascism to create strife specifically for the good people in their society and make the so called political system they will replace "him" with seem vaguely credible.. though i hope it fails and the people rise up and murder each and every fake western backed snake..

people throw the word dictator around to excuse their blood lust as if some how the presidents of the eu/uk/usa aren't just puppets of the worlds most insidious power structure(like i said institutionalisation).. that coincidentally also want people like chavez, ahmedinejad, assad and a few others dead whilst the media in the countries names being soiled by "foreign intervention" (or murdering people for no good reason) also ramps up rhetoric against them to fuel the apathy about a future they want to manifest into the world amongst their indebted slaves..

 

[wantaknow]

i have no problem with a dictator who supplys guns and ammo rpgs land mines to there people to protect what the belive in ,unlike what we have in the usa now

 

[lost in a sea]

the guns are pointless, stop those in "power" from turning people against you first or you will just have a good ol' shoot up with american bodies everywhere.. which is the plan btw..

they want people to panic buy guns, get one in every child's hand as well so they can blow their heads off as well..

after the smoke clears the state will microchip every single one of you left and take away the freedom of movement and access to information unless you play ball and take your medication every morning in front of a webcam..

people look around and think it's all gone to shit now lol,, the changes are just getting started and this thing is going somewhere, depending on your position it isn't going to be pretty..

 

[BrainSellz]

a lil off topic but ...

 

[huligun]

You know, i'm reading all this "bad man" shit about brother Chavez. I'll bet 99% of all you haters listen to mainstream media -only. The day that you realize they're feeding you bullshit is the day you wake the fuck up. Might I suggest alternative methods of acquiring your information. By the looks of everything I've seen, his people loved him. The only ones that celebrated his death were the affluent in the country. Let's hope Maduro holds his ground and doesn't allow any Western influence to ruin his country.

My friend lives in the Caribbean on Corn Island Nicaragua. They have a channel on the television there called The Chaves station. 24 hours a day, every day, Chaves speaks. (Maybe Spoke is a better term now). In Nicaragua they can at least change the channel. Not sure about his homeland.

 

[lost in a sea]

well i have 300 channels and they all have the devil on them..

 

[dagnabit]

You know, i'm reading all this "bad man" shit about brother Chavez. I'll bet 99% of all you haters listen to mainstream media -only. The day that you realize they're feeding you bullshit is the day you wake the fuck up. Might I suggest alternative methods of acquiring your information. By the looks of everything I've seen, his people loved him. The only ones that celebrated his death were the affluent in the country. Let's hope Maduro holds his ground and doesn't allow any Western influence to ruin his country.

ignore the guy telling you these things that LIVED through them in ven.

he probably was just watching to much fox news in ven.

 

[bombadil.360]

You know, i'm reading all this "bad man" shit about brother Chavez. I'll bet 99% of all you haters listen to mainstream media -only. The day that you realize they're feeding you bullshit is the day you wake the fuck up. Might I suggest alternative methods of acquiring your information. By the looks of everything I've seen, his people loved him. The only ones that celebrated his death were the affluent in the country. Let's hope Maduro holds his ground and doesn't allow any Western influence to ruin his country.

you are only half right, as only 50% of people in Venezuela, regardless of economical status, actually like Chavez.

like I said, Venezuela is completely divided, all thanks to Chavez btw.

half of the economically poor, do not like him at all, half of the so-called middle-class do not like him at all, and half of the rich do not like him at all.

half of rich people love him since through him they have became very wealthy, thanks to corruption. just like the old corrupt governments before Chavez got rich; just that now it is some other corrupt assholes' turn.

but if you do not want to take my word for it (born and raised in Venezuela), and if you do not want to believe in any news' source, all you gotta do is go travel there and see with your own eyes the reality.

why don't you move to Venezuela to enjoy the good you see in it? what's stopping you to be a part of the so-called bolivarian revolution?

r u afraid that the information about Venezuela being one of the most dangerous places in the world to be true afterall?

 

[lost in a sea]

how is it's division "all thanks to chavez" when you accept that the the old governments were corrupt as well?

seems it was pretty damn divided before he was elected..

 

[bombadil.360]

well how is it's division "all thanks to chavez" when you accept that the the old governments were corrupt as well?

seems it was pretty damn divided before he was elected..

only an idiot would tell you that there was no corruption or poverty before Chavez; however, there was tons less crime, much less poverty, and virtually no class-wars.

this whole "lets kill oligarchs" demagogy was 100% thanks to Chavez, and yet again, only an idiot would say otherwise.

Venezuela was always a poor country until the discovery of petroleum.

that's when the slums in Caracas and other big cities were formed; all the people from the country-side working in agriculture and with animals, left their lands to head to the big cities to chase after the petroleum dream.

having left their farms and having failed in getting instantly rich through some petroleum pipe-dream, were left with nothing; say hello to modern day poverty.

history 101.

 

[mrcreosote]

Good Point Bomb.

Not so much of a political divide as it is the result of an economic divide.
We had the same economic tragedy in the US as a result of massive immigration from overseas and from the rural south into the large industrial cities in the north after our civil war and beyond.

A large population influx without a corresponding growth in jobs left many destitute and without hope of improvement and an increase of crime and violence with the attendant rise of radical political ideas to force a political solution to what was essentially a demographics problem.

We're going to see this play out again as we now have too many idle hands and hungry bellies from debt and capital destruction that has crushed production to all time lows.

We're now all Soviet Russia in 1988.

Globalists, Banksters and their Government enablers...Thank you very much.

 

[wantaknow]

all of your points of view are very much needed !thank you all!

 

[bombadil.360]

Good Point Bomb.

Not so much of a political divide as it is the result of an economic divide.
We had the same economic tragedy in the US as a result of massive immigration from overseas and from the rural south into the large industrial cities in the north after our civil war and beyond.

A large population influx without a corresponding growth in jobs left many destitute and without hope of improvement and an increase of crime and violence with the attendant rise of radical political ideas to force a political solution to what was essentially a demographics problem.

We're going to see this play out again as we now have too many idle hands and hungry bellies from debt and capital destruction that has crushed production to all time lows.

We're now all Soviet Russia in 1988.

Globalists, Banksters and their Government enablers...Thank you very much.

hello mrcreosote,

I'd say it is also a political divide though; since the half that likes Chavez are extreme left wingers, for lack of a better term.

this means they think the government should control everything and should provide for everyone, and everyone should get equal benefits from such all controlling, all knowing, benevolent and revolutionary government.

while the other half thinks that government control should be minimal, and that each individual is different and unique, and should be able to make a livelihood according to his/her input to society.

as of now, in Venezuela, there's no such thing as free enterprise. for example, I worked for many years at the only professional recording studio in my city, the owner had to close down and actually move out of the country before the 'chavistas' came to expropriate his business. so he sold all his gear at a cheap price and got out. there's tons of stories of the sort.

there were this guys I know that were growing strawberries, and they would harvest them, clean them, vacuum seal them, freeze them, sold some locally and the rest was for export. eventually, the 'chavistas' came, took their land and equipment, and it was bye bye...

this happened to virtually everyone who had a business of his/her own and is not a part of the inner-gang of 'chavistas', and this also happened to people that actually voted for Chavez but were not part of their inner-gang.

all such actions by the government were then propagandized as Chavez's battle against the "evil" Oligarchy.

as for now, that Chavez is out of the picture, things will get crazy, as the struggle for power within the inner-gang has started, and this will hurt the most the have-nots, and they will loose a lot of support, but not before they finish wrecking the whole country and robbing it blind.

 

[Storm Shadow]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/50-truths-about-hugo-chavez-and-the-bolivarian-revolution/5326268

50 Truths about Hugo Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution



1. Never in the history of Latin America, has a political leader had such incontestable democratic legitimacy. Since coming to power in 1999, there were 16 elections in Venezuela. Hugo Chavez won 15, the last on October 7, 2012. He defeated his rivals with a margin of 10-20 percentage points.

2. All international bodies, from the European Union to the Organization of American States, to the Union of South American Nations and the Carter Center, were unanimous in recognizing the transparency of the vote counts.

3. James Carter, former U.S. President, declared that Venezuela’s electoral system was “the best in the world.”

4. Universal access to education introduced in 1998 had exceptional results. About 1.5 million Venezuelans learned to read and write thanks to the literacy campaign called Mission Robinson I.

5. In December 2005, UNESCO said that Venezuela had eradicated illiteracy.

6. The number of children attending school increased from 6 million in 1998 to 13 million in 2011 and the enrollment rate is now 93.2%.

7. Mission Robinson II was launched to bring the entire population up to secondary level. Thus, the rate of secondary school enrollment rose from 53.6% in 2000 to 73.3% in 2011

8. Missions Ribas and Sucre allowed tens of thousands of young adults to undertake university studies. Thus, the number of tertiary students increased from 895,000 in 2000 to 2.3 million in 2011, assisted by the creation of new universities.

9. With regard to health, they created the National Public System to ensure free access to health care for all Venezuelans. Between 2005 and 2012, 7873 new medical centers were created in Venezuela.

10. The number of doctors increased from 20 per 100,000 population in 1999 to 80 per 100,000 in 2010, or an increase of 400%.

11. Mission Barrio Adentro I provided 534 million medical consultations. About 17 million people were attended, while in 1998 less than 3 million people had regular access to health. 1.7 million lives were saved, between 2003 and 2011.

12. The infant mortality rate fell from 19.1 per thousand in 1999 to 10 per thousand in 2012, a reduction of 49%.

13. Average life expectancy increased from 72.2 years in 1999 to 74.3 years in 2011.

14. Thanks to Operation Miracle, launched in 2004, 1.5 million Venezuelans who were victims of cataracts or other eye diseases, regained their sight.

15. From 1999 to 2011, the poverty rate decreased from 42.8% to 26.5% and the rate of extreme poverty fell from 16.6% in 1999 to 7% in 2011.

16. In the rankings of the Human Development Index (HDI) of the United Nations Program for Development (UNDP), Venezuela jumped from 83 in 2000 (0.656) at position 73 in 2011 (0.735), and entered into the category Nations with ‘High HDI’.

17. The GINI coefficient, which allows calculation of inequality in a country, fell from 0.46 in 1999 to 0.39 in 2011.

18. According to the UNDP, Venezuela holds the lowest recorded Gini coefficient in Latin America, that is, Venezuela is the country in the region with the least inequality.

19. Child malnutrition was reduced by 40% since 1999.

20. In 1999, 82% of the population had access to safe drinking water. Now it is 95%.

21. Under President Chavez social expenditures increased by 60.6%.

22. Before 1999, only 387,000 elderly people received a pension. Now the figure is 2.1 million.
23. Since 1999, 700,000 homes have been built in Venezuela.

24. Since 1999, the government provided / returned more than one million hectares of land to Aboriginal people.

25. Land reform enabled tens of thousands of farmers to own their land. In total, Venezuela distributed more than 3 million hectares.

26. In 1999, Venezuela was producing 51% of food consumed. In 2012, production was 71%, while food consumption increased by 81% since 1999. If consumption of 2012 was similar to that of 1999, Venezuela produced 140% of the food it consumed.

27. Since 1999, the average calories consumed by Venezuelans increased by 50% thanks to the Food Mission that created a chain of 22,000 food stores (MERCAL, Houses Food, Red PDVAL), where products are subsidized up to 30%. Meat consumption increased by 75% since 1999.

28. Five million children now receive free meals through the School Feeding Programme. The figure was 250,000 in 1999.

29. The malnutrition rate fell from 21% in 1998 to less than 3% in 2012.

30. According to the FAO, Venezuela is the most advanced country in Latin America and the Caribbean in the erradication of hunger.

31. The nationalization of the oil company PDVSA in 2003 allowed Venezuela to regain its energy sovereignty.

32. The nationalization of the electrical and telecommunications sectors (CANTV and Electricidad de Caracas) allowed the end of private monopolies and guaranteed universal access to these services.

33. Since 1999, more than 50,000 cooperatives have been created in all sectors of the economy.

34. The unemployment rate fell from 15.2% in 1998 to 6.4% in 2012, with the creation of more than 4 million jobs.

35. The minimum wage increased from 100 bolivars ($ 16) in 1998 to 247.52 bolivars ($ 330) in 2012, ie an increase of over 2,000%. This is the highest minimum wage in Latin America.

36. In 1999, 65% of the workforce earned the minimum wage. In 2012 only 21.1% of workers have only this level of pay.

37. Adults at a certain age who have never worked still get an
income equivalent to 60% of the minimum wage.

38. Women without income and disabled people receive a pension equivalent to 80% of the minimum wage.

39. Working hours were reduced to 6 hours a day and 36 hours per week, without loss of pay.

40. Public debt fell from 45% of GDP in 1998 to 20% in 2011. Venezuela withdrew from the International Monetary Fund and World Bank, after early repayment of all its debts.

41. In 2012, the growth rate was 5.5% in Venezuela, one of the highest in the world.

42. GDP per capita rose from $ 4,100 in 1999 to $ 10,810 in 2011.

43. According to the annual World Happiness 2012, Venezuela is the second happiest country in Latin America, behind Costa Rica, and
the nineteenth worldwide, ahead of Germany and Spain.

44. Venezuela offers more direct support to the American continent than the United States. In 2007, Chávez spent more than 8,800 million dollars in grants, loans and energy aid as against 3,000 million from the Bush administration.

45. For the first time in its history, Venezuela has its own satellites (Bolivar and Miranda) and is now sovereign in the field of space technology. The entire country has internet and telecommunications coverage.

46. The creation of Petrocaribe in 2005 allows 18 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean, or 90 million people, secure energy supply, by oil subsidies of between 40% to 60%.

47. Venezuela also provides assistance to disadvantaged communities in the United States by providing fuel at subsidized rates.

48. The creation of the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America (ALBA) in 2004 between Cuba and Venezuela laid the foundations of an inclusive alliance based on cooperation and reciprocity. It now comprises eight member countries which places the human being in the center of the social project, with the aim of combating poverty and social exclusion.

49. Hugo Chavez was at the heart of the creation in 2011 of the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States (CELAC) which brings together for the first time the 33 nations of the region, emancipated from the tutelage of the United States and Canada.

50. Hugo Chavez played a key role in the peace process in Colombia. According to President Juan Manuel Santos, “if we go into a solid peace project, with clear and concrete progress, progress achieved ever before with the FARC, is also due to the dedication and commitment of Chavez and the government of Venezuela.”

 

[bombadil.360]

50 Truths about Hugo Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution

that should be called: 50 tons of b.s

do not have time to go over each of those 50 lies, but lets try with a few:

14. operacion milagro: sorry buddy, if you are not a member of the psuv (partido socialista unido de venezuela), you do not get any help.

5. UNESCO said no more illiteracy in Venezuela? they did not count Chavez himself with all his mathematical acrobatics: 7 x 8 = 52

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORnZHWE1wrs

there's tons more like that, from all the chavistas, including the president of the central bank of Venezuela, Mr. Merentes, 7 x 7 = 36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFiCMFoQdfY



lets not even get started on all the grammatical horror contained in venezuelafail.com and soloenvenezuela.com

50. that's hilarious, specially when Chavez sent 10 battalions and the air force to the Colombian boarder in response after Raul Reyes (terrorist / drug cartel) was killed by the Colombian government. Chavez also closed the embassy in Colombia as a response.

9. they did in fact opened up a bunch of free clinics with nice new equipment; however, it was all operated by illiterate "medics" that graduated in less than 12 months in one of the pirate medicine schools of the government. most of the equipment has been stolen and sold on the black market to other countries anyway.

etc... etc... etc...

 

[huligun]

Chaves went to Cuba for his medical problems. The poor citizens of Venezuela didn't have that option.

Cuba actually has some of the best medicine in the world. Not everyone knows that.