There ARE a lot more shootings.
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HOW MANY CHILDREN NEED TO DIE BEFORE GUN LAWS CHANGE IN THE USA
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There ARE a lot more shootings.
Three Berries
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yes as the rhetoric gets louder..... The corrupt politicians cannot have an armed populace if they are to thoroughly control you.
How many more gun laws will it take if they do not enforce the ones they have now? All more regulations and restrictions do is make feel good press for the sheeple. The Soros DA' s around the country are NOT enforcing laws so what good are anymore?
I agree they should better enforce existing regulations & restrictions.
Douglas.Curtis
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So you agree it is a problem due to social education and a corrupt govt, and not a 'too many guns' issue. Ty so much, I agree wholeheartedly.
Three Berries
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why won't we get an answer... you are blaming the rep's, i didn't see the dem's do shit... so i guess those motherfuckers also ain't open to change...
I can agree that they may not necessarily help - but my personal position is in favour of some impingement of 2nd amendment rights to implement restrictions similar to UK, AUS and NZ to reduce the sheer volume of firearms in the US.
There are so many, the gun culture is so entrenched, it would be years after enactment to see significant reduction in numbers.
I don’t see either party having the balls to make the necessary changes.
The more complex the issue, the longer the process takes - up to years to pass.
Having said that I think it would only be during a 2nd term thing.
Having said that I think it would cost the party the next election, and the incoming party would repeal the changes.
In other countries you’ve had cross party support to implement such drastic changes.
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Absolutely agree.
Yes, once guns were even more common than they are now.
In 3rd grade I took a Japanese 7.7 mm rifle my uncle had brought home from WWII to school as part of show and tell, though the firing pin was disabled by my uncle.
Today that same show and tell might result in a felony charge, despite the disabled firing pin.
What changed?
In my long-studied and contemplated opinion, the US presence in the world as a universal police force, coupled with our long-standing role in rights of conquest, the 'Bigger Stick' approach we seem to idolize as a means toward making others bend to whims (both domestically and internationally), sets us up for an assumption of righteous violence. 'American exceptionalism.'
Add to those attributes the increased populations, especially in urban centers, less actual buying power in the US dollar (meaning that people work more for less in the end on payday), and the growing social isolation where neighbors are things rather than people, and way too many stare into a smart phone rather than speaking with the person right next to them. and the growing scenario of perceptions that say that what happens to someone else is as impersonal as it gets to too many. We saw that during COVID and other scenarios.
Callous and heartless jokes right here on these forums re. mass shootings at LGBTQ clubs. Sociopathy in a social petri dish of sorts.
As people and society change, and we have less and less heart or empathy where others are concerned, we might have to accept adjusting some of our expectations for what we think is rightfully ours, and what we take for granted.
And I've owned long arms since I was 11 y.o., my first .357 magnum revolver at age 13, and my first class III select-fire weapons in 1983.
All aside from the fact that the Bubbas who rant about protecting the Country from tyranny have mostly done nothing but sit on their loud asses when things like the USA PATRIOT ACT passed, and the NRA seemed more than willing to forfeit the other 9 original amendments to the Bill of Rights without so much as a sniffle, as long as the USA PA left the 2nd alone.
When parents are fearful (with cause) of their kid not coming home from school as a result of in-class gun violence, it's time for some serious re-evaluation of the purposes we see in some of these issues. Preferably without bullshitting our self-aggrandizing romanticized selves.
Re. the earlier contesting of folks with mental health issues being those who kill themselves or others; did those who dove out Wall St. windows during the 1929 market crash have long-term mental health issues? Did the kid who got jilted at prom and embarrassed thereby necessarily have long-term mental health or mental illness issues? Did the kid who was bullied incessantly every day at school inherently have long-term mental illness? As a former clinician, I can state emphatically, NO, not necessarily at all.
Guns are expedient as tools go. A lot less time to employ more rational thought between the chambering of a round and the squeezing of the trigger than other 'tools' in most cases.
It's not 1776 or 1865 anymore. and too many kids are dying bloodied in classrooms and on streets, and there's too many pussies with badges, and too many John Wayne types thinking doing fast-draws in their living rooms makes them men.
In 3rd grade I took a Japanese 7.7 mm rifle my uncle had brought home from WWII to school as part of show and tell, though the firing pin was disabled by my uncle.
Today that same show and tell might result in a felony charge, despite the disabled firing pin.
What changed?
In my long-studied and contemplated opinion, the US presence in the world as a universal police force, coupled with our long-standing role in rights of conquest, the 'Bigger Stick' approach we seem to idolize as a means toward making others bend to whims (both domestically and internationally), sets us up for an assumption of righteous violence. 'American exceptionalism.'
Add to those attributes the increased populations, especially in urban centers, less actual buying power in the US dollar (meaning that people work more for less in the end on payday), and the growing social isolation where neighbors are things rather than people, and way too many stare into a smart phone rather than speaking with the person right next to them. and the growing scenario of perceptions that say that what happens to someone else is as impersonal as it gets to too many. We saw that during COVID and other scenarios.
Callous and heartless jokes right here on these forums re. mass shootings at LGBTQ clubs. Sociopathy in a social petri dish of sorts.
As people and society change, and we have less and less heart or empathy where others are concerned, we might have to accept adjusting some of our expectations for what we think is rightfully ours, and what we take for granted.
And I've owned long arms since I was 11 y.o., my first .357 magnum revolver at age 13, and my first class III select-fire weapons in 1983.
All aside from the fact that the Bubbas who rant about protecting the Country from tyranny have mostly done nothing but sit on their loud asses when things like the USA PATRIOT ACT passed, and the NRA seemed more than willing to forfeit the other 9 original amendments to the Bill of Rights without so much as a sniffle, as long as the USA PA left the 2nd alone.
When parents are fearful (with cause) of their kid not coming home from school as a result of in-class gun violence, it's time for some serious re-evaluation of the purposes we see in some of these issues. Preferably without bullshitting our self-aggrandizing romanticized selves.
Re. the earlier contesting of folks with mental health issues being those who kill themselves or others; did those who dove out Wall St. windows during the 1929 market crash have long-term mental health issues? Did the kid who got jilted at prom and embarrassed thereby necessarily have long-term mental health or mental illness issues? Did the kid who was bullied incessantly every day at school inherently have long-term mental illness? As a former clinician, I can state emphatically, NO, not necessarily at all.
Guns are expedient as tools go. A lot less time to employ more rational thought between the chambering of a round and the squeezing of the trigger than other 'tools' in most cases.
It's not 1776 or 1865 anymore. and too many kids are dying bloodied in classrooms and on streets, and there's too many pussies with badges, and too many John Wayne types thinking doing fast-draws in their living rooms makes them men.
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Not quite Douglas. Social education, the detachment of video games being confused for 'real life' and as Moose states above increasing population promoting the individual's sense of powerless thus reinforcing her/his detachment.
But guns are part of U.S. culture. As Moose alludes above, for many people ideas and notions of the Wild West underpin their ideas of America.
American culture also puts whites first. Culture maintains ideas of 'the Other' and thus divides a nation.
You guys have to find a new way ...
a fully automatic SIG SG-550 no less. they have to qualify with it yearly as well. citizens as well as non-residents may purchase other full auto arms with a "may-issue" permit. Switzerland is one of the easiest nations to purchase a weapon. when soldiers there retire, they have the option of buying the service rifle they carried.
because a sizeable % of Democrats have serious questions about going after their voting constituents guns. why do you think that ALL Democrats want to confiscate your guns? they are not a monolithic block with no differences of opinion amongst themselves, neither are Republicans. there are pro and anti to be found on nearly every question in both parties...
Yor in fantasy land. There's a huge disparity between the 2 parties on gun control. Just ask a Republican lol. They're gonna tell you the Dems what to take our guns.
The majority of the prob is a massive mental health issue caused by our own gov and how people are raised. This is not an easy fix. These people do not think they have a mental problem. It's very difficult to track nutter butters..
There's also no need to have guns of war available to the public. I can live a happy prosperous life without having any AR or similar. Banning them will not affect my life one iota. The current laws make it easy for anyone with mental health issues to buy a weapon of war. The AR platform is the weapon of choice because its very lethal and can kill many in seconds. There is no other weapon that can do that.
If that's true then why did Trump spend his first executive orders undoing Obama's healthcare and anything he rested on from his administration??
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