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HOW MANY CHILDREN NEED TO DIE BEFORE GUN LAWS CHANGE IN THE USA

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Hammerhead

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Frosty Nuggets said:
The idea that the public should not have military weapons is flawed, if a right exists it is shared by all equally, you cannot delegate a right if it does not exist therefore government cannot have the right to military weapons if the public does not have that right, if you do not have it you cannot give it away, government is below man as it was created by man, the created cannot be greater than the creator, man cannot be greater than God, a child cannot be greater than the parent.

We have God given unlienable rights and as such they cannot be taken away no matter what is written down or who says so, one right is to own anything and use anything that has or will be invented no matter what it is.
The 2nd amendment does not give rights it ensures government cannot take it away period.
Government does not give you rights they come from God, government does all it can to take away rights but it cannot unless you consent, have you ever heard of 'the consent of the governed', all legislation is contract law and requires consent, they trick you into giving consent or contracting with them by getting you to associate with the person which is a corporation not a living flesh and blood man or woman, the government is a corporation and can only contract with another corporation not a living flesh and blood man or woman that is why they invented the person and teach you in school to associate yourself with it which is fraud in contract, fraud vitiates everything.
When you are approached by a police officer or go to court they ask you are you Joe BLOGGS, if you say yes they have joinder and you have consented to contract with them as the person, they are a corporation and cannot deal with a living flesh and blood man or woman, they wear black robes because the are mourning the dead.
They are using Maritime Law, the Law of water or contract law which has no standing on land and is inland piracy, only a Common Law court has standing on land and does not require consent as we all understand Common Law which is quite simple do no harm, even children understand it that is why ignorance of the Law is no excuse nothing to do with legislation which is written in legalese not English so ignorance of legislation is every excuse.
Under legislation you can get away with crimes because of technicalities, under common Law you cannot, if it is proven to the jury that you did harm then you are guilty.

Statute comes from statue, a statue of a man has the appearance of a man but is not a man, a statute has the appearance of a Law but is not a Law it is policy hence policy enforcement officers (police), an officer is there to check on accounts and balance the books not to enforce Common Law nor serve or protect the people.

Acts are fictional plays on words not Law again it is mere policy.

Corporations write policy not Law.

If I cannot write Law then you cannot write Law and neither can government, ask yourself who wrote it, what makes them so special, how do they have any more right than you or I do, just because they have a suit or a title to their name, what elevated them above God as God gave us all free will.

If someone claims authority over you then they are saying you are a slave.
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zachrockbadenof

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sorry ... the source was the ny daily news .... i could have sent u the nypost headline, but i didn't want your brain to explode... if u like, i can get the nytime article and post...
 
Hammerhead

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Most mass shootings are not done by liberals. This is a fact. .. More liberals are killed by fascist right-wing extremists.

Over the past decade, the Anti-Defamation Leaguhas counted about 450 U.S. murders committed by political extremists. Of these 450 killings, right-wing extremists committed about 75 percent. As this data shows, the American political right has a violent problem that has no equivalent on the left.

The pattern extends to violence less severe than murder, like the Jan. 6 attack on Congress. It also extends to the language from some Republican politicians — including Donald Trump — and conservative media figures that treats violence as a legitimate form of political expression. A much larger number of Republican officials do not use this language but also do not denounce it or punish politicians who do use it; Kevin McCarthy, the top House Republican, is a leading example.

History has taught us that what begins with words ends far worse. The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and antisemitism, and many other prominent Republicans have taken a more neutral stance or even embraced talk of violence.

All of this hate and calls for violence affect the minds of those with mental issues.
 
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One of the reasons for the no prosecution of criminals in big cities is they are disproportionally people of color who are arrested.

What political leanings are most big cities? Nobody wants to talk about Black on Black crime.....
 
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Three Berries said:
One of the reasons for the no prosecution of criminals in big cities is they are disproportionally people of color who are arrested.

What political leanings are most big cities? Nobody wants to talk about Black on Black crime.....
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HOW MANY CHILDREN NEED TO DIE BEFORE GUN LAWS CHANGE IN THE USA​


It’s about kids getting killed with guns - irrespective of race, ethnicity, religion, gender, political leanings etc.
 
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JKD said:
www.statista.com

Mass shootings in the U.S.: legality of weapons 2024 | Statista

100 of the mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and September 2024 involved weapons which were obtained legally; a clear majority.
www.statista.com www.statista.com
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Even us mostly sane folks have a really bad "Not gonna' take it anymore!!' day once in a while.

Like I said about the clinging to MH issues as the source. Many people of more or less sane virtue can encounter life's speedbumps wherein the outcome (prematurely) seems overly negative and the challenges insurmountable.

Hopefully in that moment they're not equipped to be readily unholstering or removing from a scabbard a weapon that expresses that (often) passing sense of despair.

Otherwise....
 
Hammerhead

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Illegal bought guns are not involved in school shootings or any mass murders. Most if not all are legally bought. If they couldn't buy them we wouldn't be here. This is about a specific weapon that is used in most mass murders in the USA. Has zero to do with banning any other weapons.,
 
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Otherwise....
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indica193

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JKD said:
www.statista.com

Mass shootings in the U.S.: legality of weapons 2024 | Statista

100 of the mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and September 2024 involved weapons which were obtained legally; a clear majority.
www.statista.com www.statista.com
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kewl.. now show me statitics of non mass shootings (you know, like daily drive-bys) and the legality of owners guns.. the so called gang members
sheesh, you people really are intent on cutting the branch under your feet
 
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