Hawaiian Sativas

[MAHA KALA]

captain, very nice showin the kona gold, and your description is great too when i was in kona last year i got a bunch of dark resinous bud clearly grown outdoors. discovered a few seeds, brought em back and grew em out. the resulting females were spectacular, with the look, and especially a high exactly like you describe. the earthy fruityness with a slight hashiness and you hit it on the head, the aroma itself is intoxicating. the thing with my female is that the fruity liquor aroma smells exactly like scratch n sniff cherry! i had another female that yielded slightly more but didn't have the strong cherry aroma (everything else was exactly the same). the leaves are extremely thin and she takes around 12 weeks. and i do love the high, not racy at all but still strong in its own way, captain your description is really the best interpretation.

so is the kona gold considered an ibl or land race? should it still be found in the forests of kona? and has there been much variation in the strain to anyone's knowledge? i wish i knew more about this plant i have, ah well. she's begun her second reveg now.

mouthwatering story

 

[MAHA KALA]

Nice

I have BOEL's Hawaiian
Which is either
(Swazi x Thai) x (Mexi x Affy)
Or
(Jamaican x Thai) x (Mexi x Affy)

I kinda lean towards it being the latter.

I still have a few original seeds
But I also made more seeds on a mountaintop in Napa/Sonoma county

Very unique weed.
Some were warm, some were cold
One looked hybrid, the rest were sativa.
One sativa was real Thai dom
Another sativa was pure Mexican

My estimation is that the seeds I got were F2 from the original BOEL work.

Last I heard, that BOEL member died of liver cancer

I was also given Haze, NL x Haze, Ducksfoot, and several other lines that only have initials or numbers - the mark of real, early breeding work.

nice collection. so now you leave PNW and heading to Hawaii to breed it properly? ahaha just joking..

 

[Thcvhunter]

nice collection. so now you leave PNW and heading to Hawaii to breed it properly? ahaha just joking..

LoL

Though I dont classify the Napa/Sonoma region of California as PNW since its like a desert
18% humidity and 118⁰F for two months

In that respect, PNW is more similar to Hawaii, especially since Olympic WA is geothermal rain forest and gets the wind from Hawaii
....kinda makes sense now that there was such a strong collaberation in breeding between Hawaii and Olympic area of Washington.
Wet, humid, short season, geothermal

 

[MAHA KALA]

that sounds like nice microclimate.. but 47N is quite at North. I see average temperature for olympic national park rain forest is 60F for October and 46F for November. it doesn't sound to me like Hawaii. you visit Hawaii? good info here:

think it will be extremely difficult to match the quality of the weed you will get from the same strain if done in a different environment/area/state/country/etc.....and then imagine that there are many little micro-environments.....from some of the dryest areas on earth, to one of the wettest, in just an hour's drive....Snow to Sun on the sandy beach....those are the differences that made the pakalolo here the best in the world.....those micro-enviroments.....the names of the famous strains give you an idea though....think Puna Budder, Kona Gold....two totally different environments on the same island just 2 hours apart....Puna is WET....Puna needed a plant that would grow well in that environmentd, thus the Punna Budder...kona is Dry/Arid, but can get wet sometimes...mostly dry though.....Kona Gold popped out of that environment..........aloha

 

[MAHA KALA]

the hawaiins never called it ducksfoot ,
they called it web , or strawberry web ,
it may not even be related to the one i released called ducksfoot

I think they call duckfoot something different than webbed indica..

Duckfoot (if its the same one) is also a nice strain. Much more mold resistant, taller, and tighter buds than Swazi. I grew it also in upper Puna in the early 90s. It was Sativa looking and in its effects but not quite as energetic as the Swazi. Leaves were dark green with pink leaf stems. This strain was in the islands in the 80s as we used to get it in high school.

I need this :

I also remember having a connection in Waipahu who could get an amazing gold sativa from Kona that looked just like the old Gold 'Lumbo from High School. It was a clusterfuck to score, having to exchange several hands before I saw any. It was some of the best weed I ever smoked while there. Tasted like gold sweet peppery spice. Buds were most definitely sativa in structure. I remember some of my local growing buddies freaking out, asking me a million questions as to where I found this weed. We called it Kona Gold. Yes, it looked gold in color as well, not green.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

this I found very very and extremely interesting. 10 years is not so long time for changing the genetics by outter conditions. sometimes it is almost impossible to acclimatize some let say south asians in Europe or other places... Hawaii seems to be great place for breeding new unique stuff in very short time.. that is really amazing. why some breeder with good ideas didnt land the Hawaii? I would buy seeds only from such breeder...

Ther are a couple of breeders over ther that specialise in the islands genetics.

 

[Lolo94]

the hawaiins never called it ducksfoot ,
they called it web , or strawberry web ,
it may not even be related to the one i released called ducksfoot given its just a mutation that can appear in cannabis ...

ducksfoot was what i called what i made ...



the hawaiin version i got was nothing like what i had (ducksfoot),
theirs was an indica , i called it webbed indica ,
it may have been what was referred to as strawberry web , never called ducksfoot though ..

as i say i m not sure they were ever related ,
one was more like a pure sativa , the other more similar to a pure indica ...

Strawberry web (as I knew it on tjhe big island 30 years ago ) was an indica/sativa. Had a friend who grew it. Wasn't a pure indica high was more balanced.
Ducksfoot was in the islands during same time period. It was a sativa. Dark green webbed leaves, and plants reached 8 to 10 feet. It grew a tight bud that was average or on the small side but with calyxes well stacked. Was one of the best performers in the jungle unless the wild pigs found it. Had very good mold and mildew resistance. Nice relaxing (not stoned) sativa high.

 

[MAHA KALA]

Ther are a couple of breeders over ther that specialise in the islands genetics.

could you name them? any reference? I know only greyskull, but he was offering things like skunkdawg or sourdub crosses. I know he has blood line or cambodian, but never saw it offered.. I am interested in narrow leaf mixes, not the stuff from 90´s like widow, or current cookies stuff.. though it can be nice herb..

 

[Donald Mallard]

Strawberry web (as I knew it on tjhe big island 30 years ago ) was an indica/sativa. Had a friend who grew it. Wasn't a pure indica high was more balanced.
Ducksfoot was in the islands during same time period. It was a sativa. Dark green webbed leaves, and plants reached 8 to 10 feet. It grew a tight bud that was average or on the small side but with calyxes well stacked. Was one of the best performers in the jungle unless the wild pigs found it. Had very good mold and mildew resistance. Nice relaxing (not stoned) sativa high.

i never heard anyone from hawaii call the webbed stuff ducksfoot lolo , there is no record anywhere online they did ,
i searched and searched when i first came across it ,
no mention what so ever ,(maybe they did , but its not recorded anywhere i have seen)

only in more recent times did i hear that name used , long after i had already released what i did ,which was early 2000 s

as i understand it what i had may not even be related to anything from hawaii , its just a mutant leaf trait that can pop up anywhere..

the abc , australian bastard cannabis leaf trait has also been seen in other varieties unrelated ...

i only started with 1 female plant with that trait ...



the stuff i had did suffer from mold , it got quite large buds and the smell was unmistakable and very strong ,
which translated into the taste , real lick your lips stuff , it was quite delicious and very happy weed ,
some had a slight hashy taste ...

 

[Lolo94]

@Donald Mallard. The first time I heard the term ducksfoot was in the early 90s in Hawaii. It is how it was described to me by an old timer local grower upon seeing some of the plants we were growing. The leaves were dark green and webbed with 3 leaflets. Where he got the name who knows. I am assuming he had seen this variety before.

There was also mention of ducksfoot by another Hawaiian grower who had mentioned it as part of an inherited seed collection. Can't remember the thread but I remember responding to it.

 

[Dirtboy808]

Molokai Frost seed project

Molokai Frost seed project

Open pollination. Had equal amount of males

 

[Dirtboy808]

Puna Black Cherry

Puna Black Cherry

Started as a Golden Voice cross on Maui early 90's

 

[ctg]

Be good to have the pure Molokai frost back in circulation. Loved them when I got them years and years ago from the hihawian(jam). Still have old patients ask for it. The puna black cherry is dam fine herb. Stoney, smelly,tasty and pretty.
-ct-

 

[Lolo94]

Anyone heard of Keanae pink Gorilla from Maui. From what i read on a other thread it's an old school Swazi variety. Curious if it's the same variety that was in Puna from the 80s. That one had no pink pistills though

 

[Dirtboy808]

Lolo 94 No I haven't heard of that. But most likely it's not the same Swazi. I got some good Swazi seeds fro the guys on papaya rd. in like 80 and loved it. Aloha DB

 

[Dirtboy808]

Be good to have the pure Molokai frost back in circulation. Loved them when I got them years and years ago from the hihawian(jam). Still have old patients ask for it. The puna black cherry is dam fine herb. Stoney, smelly,tasty and pretty.
-ct-

It's a special one for sure. We are blessed the Jam did open pollination on these and has kept it going. Last time i made seeds I chose my females and I wish I had kept the vine or oddball. Those has some amazing flavors. This is not a commercial plant it a connoisseur plant.
On some plants the seeds are the size of BB s.Even got seeds on the leaf on one lol. I'll go look for the pic of that. Aloha DB

 

[Dirtboy808]

 

[Dirtboy808]

 

[Lolo94]

Lolo 94 No I haven't heard of that. But most likely it's not the same Swazi. I got some good Swazi seeds fro the guys on papaya rd. in like 80 and loved it. Aloha DB

Got some Swazi seeds from that era going now, originally from Kalapana side.

 

[@hempy]

It's a special one for sure. We are blessed the Jam did open pollination on these and has kept it going. Last time i made seeds I chose my females and I wish I had kept the vine or oddball. Those has some amazing flavors. This is not a commercial plant it a connoisseur plant.
On some plants the seeds are the size of BB s.Even got seeds on the leaf on one lol. I'll go look for the pic of that. Aloha DB

Good to see them still going i remember when they were first posted and shared i was a bit surprised to not see people still grow them.

You guys even cross the MF to a nice local sativa.

Good work DB