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I've heard about it but it's not all cars right now. As I understand it they're only banning new ICE cars and will phase out older ones over time. Far from the right now scenario that 3 berries tried to imply.
Three Berries
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But but it is what Kryin' Kerry said! LOL look it up.
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St. Phatty
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They're also banning gas powered leaf blowers.
There's a lot of wildfire related jobs where a gas powered leaf blowers is the best tool for the job. Banning them might come back to bite them.
The problem isn't Climate Change, the problem is Climate Change hysteria and crappy Adaptation skills.
See, you're problem is you hear a prediction like that and you think the end of that predicted time is the end of the world and that's not what anyone is really saying. What they are saying is after that time all these efforts to turn things around will become meaningless because there will be no stopping it at that point. The consensus on that point seems pretty solid too, you've just posted links to multiple articles all pointing to roughly that same point in time. Which still has another 8 years to go yet so you're too premature to say they got it wrong yet.
For what it's worth I don't hold solidly to any of those predictions because I don't think any of them really know for sure, those are all just best guesses. There is no way to really know for sure until such time as the world moves away from fossil fuels. I also have my doubts we'll make it if those predictions are correct too few are moving fast enough to bring mankind's carbon footprint down enough to hit that 2030 marker.
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Eh I don't know, I don't think leaf blowers will really make enough of a difference one way or another to single them out as something to hinge the whole argument on. Besides there are the battery powered options to leaf blowers that perform just as well as gas powered versions. Sure lugging around enough batteries to complete a full day of work will be a pain but so is lugging around enough cans of gas.
Also I presume when you talk about them being effective tools for dealing with wildfires you're talking about using them before a wildfire has started? Too many times have I witnessed people effectively using leaf blowers to make a fire burn even hotter.
St. Phatty
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I use them to do controlled burns in the pouring rain. Something California needs to do a lot more of, but they seem to lack the will, or have organizational obstructions that I don't understand.
yes if you have enough money, you can get the same Oxygen blowing performance from an electric blower.
I may have damaged my gasoline leaf blower by using 110 octane in it. Thought it would be an interesting experiment.
Three Berries
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2 cycles run better on premium......
Yeah, will may be the issue but not will as in wanting to or not wanting to but rather will in being willing to spend money. Unfortunately California has their budget so messed up and always trying to pass the bill onto the taxpayers for things most taxpaying citizens see the benefits of having them not only as one of the most expensive places to live but more recently is making many of the stronger income earners leaving the state in droves to get some tax relief. Also because the multitude of homeless people there detract from the one thing that in the past kept people there despite the high cost of living, which was the beauty. So I could see where they might resist replacing all their gas powered leaf blowers for battery powered one until the gas ones die out and need replacing. Ironically if the wanted to set an example and felt gas powered leaf blowers contributed enough to the carbon problem then getting electric powered leaf blowers should be a priority.
this is normally a time of pondering on just what happened with the melt season
however this year is really showing us something new
there is still some melting on the greenland sheet
not much but any melting should have ceased weeks ago
melting in mid october? say it ain't so joe
no statement yet from NOAA on this, but they do typically wait until the melt season is over
ought to be interesting
however this year is really showing us something new
there is still some melting on the greenland sheet
not much but any melting should have ceased weeks ago
melting in mid october? say it ain't so joe
no statement yet from NOAA on this, but they do typically wait until the melt season is over
ought to be interesting
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never seen one that is remotely equal. i am all for it, though.
i bet it started easy though. something is learned from every experiment, even the failures...
As I seem to recall from recent news there's currently volcanic activity going on in Iceland. Granted that's a different country but being under the erth's crust volcanic activity isn't restricted by borders, maybe that has something to do with what's going on in Greenland?
interesting thought, hadn't occurred to me
but the melt has moved around to different regions
we've had a series of extreme temperature events in greenland over the last decade
rain at the high altitudes last year
total greenland surface melt a few years back
this appears to be another similar event
When they ban stuff it's usually for the public only. State agencies will still use and buy whatever they need.
St. Phatty
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Is that curve on the right saying that August was basically normal melt wise,
but July & September were "of concern" ?
I looked up the answer to the question
"what does it mean that CO2 is a greenhouse gas".
Basically, CO2 absorbs infrared, bigger molecules absorb light with the longer wavelength. Methane, CH4, for example.
CO2 & CH4 absorb infrared better because they're bigger than O2 & N2.
However, that is completely irrelevant to the heating of the Earth's atmosphere.
Light coming towards Earth will get absorbed ANYWAY.
Infrared Light leaving Earth will get absorbed by the CO2 & Methane, but that is completely irrelevant.
The notion that CO2 is a problem because it absorbs Infrared light is just another US government lie/ scam.
99.99% of the time, when CO2 is generated by combustion, the combustion occurs in a car engine or power plant. If there is infrared light, it is inside the car engine or the power plant.
Yes, the Earth is heating, but it's not because CO2 levels rose from 350 to 420 ppm. It's heating because we burn a cubic mile of oil and a cubic mile of coal every year in the process of generating the CO2. (Plus a bunch of natural gas, being burned, generating more CO2)
we'll agree to disagree on the latter part
on the first part I would swap July and August
July was high but not crazy high
August was a more unusual event
September and October more dramatic
waiting if this goes into November
should be seeing a statement soon
might be a bit dramatic
