Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

[coconutcurry]

We were told via NWS/NOAA that we should expect warmer than average temps right through December in the Interior of Alaska.

Then we seemed to be getting fairly chilly, contradicting initial predictions, but it was apparently a bit of a false start.

This is the difference between weather and climate. You can't predict the weather more than a couple of days if at all. But to predict climate is possible, but not exact. And the difference between weather and climate confuses many people. And this got something to do with statistic which confuses people even more.

An example: If there would be a room with 10 persons and I can't see them and you ask me, who is bigger in the average? Men or women? I can not tell you, because there are women who are very tall and there are also men who are very small. There are many exceptions from the normality. And when there are only 10 people, I can't make a good prediction.
But when there would be a big hall full with thousands of people, I could tell you for sure, that in average the men will be bigger than the women. But I couldn't tell you exactly how big the difference would be.

So you can not make a good prediction of the weather, but of the climate. And in the long term it will get warmer.

And when the world would end tomorrow, I would plant an apple tree today. (Martin Luther)
So let us plant an apple tree. But I think weed is also O.K.

 

[St. Phatty]

We were told via NWS/NOAA that we should expect warmer than average temps right through December in the Interior of Alaska.

You should open up a bed & breakfast.

Your food descriptions sound GREAT !

Pizza made with Moose Sausage has got to be great.

Plus there's enough room for fun activities like Tannerite demonstrations.


But about Alaska ... I have a feeling that the unusual temp increase of the last few summers will be repeated in 2020 etc.

 

[moose eater]

The temp increases were largely driven by coastal anomalies. The Interior has been much warmer in the past, and we largely stayed with our trend toward cooler summers than the historic temps in the Interior, though we had some decent weather before the monsoons of early August came earlier than typical, and stayed much later, making for a soggy freeze-up yet again.

Remember, there's about 9 sub-climates in the State, and it's 2.5 times the size of Texas, with several large mountain ranges to arrest weather systems.

Commercial use of wild game in Alaska is prohibited, unlike some issues in Canada. But our domestic reindeer are close cousins to caribou, and they sell at a lofty price. Lots of history re. reindeer farming that had its greater boost during times of crisis in the northern areas of the State, but they did so well they began to look at export, with relatively low over-head, and the cattle organizations in the Pacific northwest and elsewhere got together and, at one point, lobbied for, and forced a ban on their commercial export from Alaska; seems that market control was occurring early on, many years ago.

Of course, a B&B that incorporated good salmon into its cuisine, such as a smoked red salmon & spinach quiche made with local products (as much as possible); that'd be a seller, for sure.


We once thought about a traditional crafts school that might last several weeks, to include log building, wood treatment, home ceramics, hide-tanning, arctic/sub-arctic gardening, and more; one of many pipedreams.

But there's still money in tourism here. Seemingly one of the few promising economies left in the State, though primary modes of travel have switched up a bit for the tourists..

One of the bigger issues with the coastal heat this last year or so had to do with areas that rarely get serious forest fires, not only being inundated with them, but lasting well into seasons across the State beyond what was once considered 'fire season.'

And there was drought in a couple semi-remote coastal communities, where drought had never even entered into any planning historically. Seldovia was one of those places.

 

[White Beard]

This just out: https://apple.news/AA2E-Kt4mTomAGxd6-drJNA
It’s a *current* Defense department analysis on impact of climate change ON the US military, commissioned by Trump’s *own* JCOS appointment.

Fun fact I learned from it: the US military is THE LARGEST single consumer of fossil fuels on the planet....

As with all predictable horror movies, we continue to collect evidence that the calls have been coming from *inside the house* ever since this short-bus shit-show began.

 

[St. Phatty]

This just out: https://apple.news/AA2E-Kt4mTomAGxd6-drJNA
It’s a *current* Defense department analysis on impact of climate change ON the US military, commissioned by Trump’s *own* JCOS appointment.

Fun fact I learned from it: the US military is THE LARGEST single consumer of fossil fuels on the planet....

I have a feeling that they're saving the oil in the ANWR, not for environmental reasons, but for future military use.

 

[moose eater]

I have a feeling that they're saving the oil in the ANWR, not for environmental reasons, but for future military use.

Two series of letters and numbers, dating back many decades:

NPRA PET4. (National Petroleum Reserve)

The military's/DoD's had their reserves plotted out for MANY years in the arctic. We're their apocalyptic gas station.

 

[trichrider]

"Their report not only describes the need for massive permanent military infrastructure on US soil to stave off climate collapse, but portends new foreign interventions due to climate change."


saying this and then exposing the military as the largest consumer reveals nothing about what in particular or in general the military can do to stop/contain cLIEmate change.
is PG&E blackouts only just test runs to identify reactions?
i tend to think this report is intended to garner more funds and what better way to do that than fearmongering low IQ peoples...like the Greta grandstanding, the UN IPCC reports etc.
climate will do what it will do and no military action will correct that trajectory short of killing alot of peoples and herding the remaining citizenry into work/death camps.
and blaming it on Trumps administration is childish, especially since we have but ten years left.../s.
besides, there is more evidence this is a scam than not.

 

[coconutcurry]

56,7 °C (134.06 °F) is the highest temp ever recorded in US death-valley?
Really?

Pakistan is ground zero for global warming consequences

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...lds-leading-victims-global-warming/809509002/

"This past April 30, the temperature in the southern city of Nawabshah soared to 122.4 degrees Fahrenheit (50.2 degrees Celsius), the hottest day on earth ever recorded in April, the Pakistan Meteorological Department and World Meteorological Organization said. It was even hotter in the southern city of Turbat on May 28, 2017, when the temperature hit a sizzling 128.3 degrees Fahrenheit (53.5 Celsius)."

And in this area are big cities and no abandoned desert.

 

[moose eater]

'Warm & Wet Winter Predicted for Alaska by Federal Agency'

https://www.newsminer.com/news/alas...cle_bb0d08f1-2b28-5bcc-b5c8-16770f632011.html

The Fairbanks Daily News Miner is stingy with their on-line reading, and permits all of 2 articles per week. Unfortunately their system is as skilled at counting as most are at budgeting. And, on top of that, if there's any essence of my computer's presence in that link, they may not open the article for you, beyond the title, but I don't -think- they're THAT skilled or blind there yet. (*Their system seems to believe I've read 2 articles in the last week, but I haven't).

At any rate, -if-, in a fluke occurrence, the Daily Nose Miner refuses to let you see the entire article, though I don't think they'll prohibit your viewing, I believe the article is of wider publication, and should be available at the Anchorage Daily News, as well.

All of that technical blockading aside, their predictions for our region (at least here in the Interior) seems to be shaping up thus far as truth.

I haven't called the NOAA/NWS recording in a few days (907-458-3745, with the prompts for Interior Alaska, Fairbanks area/Middle Tanana Valley forecast being 1111) but as of a day or 2 ago, our slated high temps in that area were forecast to be with highs of 40 f.; meaning the snow will remain, maybe, more likely turning to mud and slush. A lovely time of year. <sarcasm>

 

[coconutcurry]

'Warm & Wet Winter Predicted for Alaska by Federal Agency'

https://www.newsminer.com/news/alas...cle_bb0d08f1-2b28-5bcc-b5c8-16770f632011.html

The Fairbanks Daily News Miner is stingy with their on-line reading, and permits all of 2 articles per week.

Here are some more generous journalists:

U.S. federal agency predicts warm and wet winter for Alaska
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/noaa-warm-winter-alaska-1.5331418

Warm and wet winter for Alaska predicted by federal agency
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/t...alaska-predicted-by-federal-agency/ar-AAJcU6f

Warm and wet winter for Alaska predicted by federal agency
https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/10/22/warm-and-wet-winter-for-alaska-predicted-by-federal-agency/

Warm and wet winter for Alaska predicted by federal agency
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...r-for-alaska-predicted-by-federal-agency.html

Google helps...

 

[Frosty Nuggets]

The sun controls climate not co2, the suns output has been increasing, that is why it is getting warmer.

 

[coconutcurry]

...the suns output has been increasing, that is why it is getting warmer.

This is not true. In fact sun activity is very low and just considering the sun's activity, it should get colder, but it gets warmer instead. In fact the sun's very low activity right now compensates a big part of the CO2 warming effect. Otherwise it would be worse.

Sun & climate: moving in opposite directions
https://skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

"The sun's energy has decreased since the 1980s but the Earth keeps warming faster than before."

Solar activity is declining—what to expect?
https://phys.org/news/2015-08-solar-decliningwhat.html

"The current solar cycle began on in January 2008, with minimal activity until early 2010. The sun is now on track to have the lowest recorded sunspot activity since accurate records began in 1750. The long-term decline in solar activity set in after the last grand solar maximum peaked in 1956."

...The sun controls climate not co2...

This is also not true. CO2 got the same effect on earth like a glass shield in the greenhouse. People grow in greenhouses, because it's warmer in the greenhouse. But why is it warmer? Because the infrared radiation gets in through the glass windows, but the reflected infrared radiation can't leave the greenhouse, because on the way back it gets reflected.

Greenhouse effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect

And I recommend this here:
https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php

 

[trichrider]

suns output (solar constant) remains steady within .01%, but the magnetic protection our magnetosphere provides has been decreasing allowing more solar cosmic rays and galactic cosmic rays to affect our atmosphere.
our system gets juiced up when the suns coronal holes point at earth.


CO2 is infinitesimally small compared to water vapor. (.04% CO2 vs 95% water vapor)
and there is no glass ceiling effect, that is baloney.
if that were the case we would witness a runaway positive feedback loop heating effect, which would violate thermodynamics.


have a nice day.

 

[coconutcurry]

suns output (solar constant) remains steady within .01%,

And all we have is your statement? Where are your sources for this assertion? And please - no Breitbart sources. Pleeaase...

edit: I already posted this link:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Solar activity is declining—what to expect?
https://phys.org/news/2015-08-solar-decliningwhat.html[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This is a natural scientific site, which explains the opposite of you assertion. Haven't you read this site, can't you understand this site or do you have another reliable natural scientific source that underlines your assertion? And by the way, it is all about the number of sunspots and not about the 'sun's output'.[/FONT]

our system gets juiced up when the suns coronal holes point at earth.

Oh yes, and when the aliens come and scan your brain with their laser beams. THIS will get dangerous.

CO2 is infinitesimally small compared to water vapor. (.04% CO2 vs 95% water vapor)

Sources?

and there is no glass ceiling effect, that is baloney.

Sources...?

All you do is claiming anything and if you post any sources it's absolutely crap. Any Breitbart UFO sites. All you do is trolling. That's all. Give us respectable scientific sources for your assertions or shut up.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Apparently, NASA and NOAA got the math wrong. Lol

 

[coconutcurry]

I can absolutely NOT understand why there is ANY discussion about climate change. I don't need anybody to tell me that there is a climate change happening. Where I live climate changed dramatically. In my childhood it was like in the movie Bladerunner. It was raining. It rained in summer and it rained in winter. For years. German comedians made jokes and songs about the weather. And the wind was nearly always west, from the sea. When it came from the east it was sunny and cold in winter and sunny and hot in summer. Nowadays here is mostly north- or southwind, what means its too cold or too warm and we have so less rain it is unbelievable. We have huge problems with drought.

The first time I was thinking about something like climate change, was at a time, when I was a boy of maybe 9 or 10 years. Decades before Greta Thundberg or before anybody was talking about climate change at all. At this time we had three black and white television channels in Germany. And I used to watch the evening news with my parents. Boring - but it was cold outside and I wanted to ride my sled and I wanted to see the weather forecast and I hoped so much there would be snow. For years there was no snow. And this evening they showed a weather map of Germany and there was snow. Everywhere - only where I lived in this little area - there was no snow. I freaked out. I lived in a huge metropolitan area and I said angrily to my parents that all the fucking houses here in the cities would warm up the air, so that snow had no chance. And I didn't know at this point how close I was to the truth.

It kept on raining for some decades until it stopped early 90ies. Now there is no rain. We have strange insects here meanwhile. Insect stings got worse. Nowadays the climate is nearly like it was 30 years ago in south Europe. Nowadays I would not spend my holiday in the south anymore. It is too hot.

Meanwhile more and more people install aircons. We never needed before. Two neighbours planted palm trees. No joke. And I live in North-West-Germany close to Holland. You know?

On my travels outside Europe nearly everywhere people told me of changing climate and weather extremes and most time I didn't even ask. And this is decades ago.

So I don't need anybody telling me there is a climate change. I know by experience.

And why is this? Oh of cause, right at the point when humanship increased from 2 bio in year 1900 up to nearly 8 bio in year 2019 the 'sun's output' increases and heat up the planet. sarcasm end. I think pure common sense should be sufficient to understand that there is a connection between the increase of human beings and the increase of energy in the atmosphere.

If you get ill, usually viruses and bacteria proliferate exponential in your body. If something like this happens, your body fights viruses with fever. It looks like the planet is doing the same.

The reason for climate change:

Human Population Through Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUwmA3Q0_OE

And if you watch this, ask yourself if you would buy stocks when the share price increases exponential. And ask yourself what will happen to the share price, when it develops exponential. Do you buy stocks when it looks like this? https://mathbitsnotebook.com/Algebra1/FunctionGraphs/expgrowth.jpg

Usually this is the point when panic shakes the stock market...

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Merchants of Doubt Official Trailer 1 (2014) - Documentary HD

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[armedoldhippy]

temperature in Anchorage Alaska was in the 40s the other day, while a town in Utah hit -34 degrees F. yup, sounds normal. move along folks, nothing unusual going on here...

 

[moose eater]

Anchorage was in the 50s the other day; the cold Interior was in the 40s. My ground is brown again... Yet more time for brining and smoking, and felling trees, and.... sliding on freezing rain in the darker hours.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

U.S. Military Could Collapse Within 20 Years Due to Climate Change, Report Commissioned By Pentagon Says

The report says a combination of global starvation, war, disease, drought, and a fragile power grid could have cascading, devastating effects.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...e-change-report-commissioned-by-pentagon-says


Wondering how long they've been cutting off the power in CA to "prevent fires" (wink wink).