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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 62 31.5%
  • No!

    Votes: 41 20.8%
  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.6%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 65 33.0%
  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    197

Chi13

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Can the BBC explain how the HIV cleavage site was inserted (which made it infectious to humans)? How about Moderna's cancer "research" patent from 2016, how did that get in there? Just "chance" and random mutations is it?


Even though oldmate sent you a pretty damning finding about what the vax does to blood, you simply ignore and carry on shilling for the corrupt Gov and big pharma... if I thought it could help I'd share some studies with you, but it seems you are too far up your own behind (or getting paid too well) to be able to see the truth of what has gone down. No probs with me


If they try to push bird flu or monkey pox as the next big bad plannedemic, will you take those shots also? Serious question too.
Why don't you write to the BBC. I'm sure they will be interestd.

"Oldmate" is a sef taught biologist. I ignore his links for some time now as absolutely nothing he states is reflected in health stats. I don't take notice of this conspiracy nonsense.

If there are vaccines I generally take them if there's good reason.
 

Chi13

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You are 7x more likely to get myocarditis from actual covid, than the vaccine.
You are more likely to die if you get covid and are unvaccinated, than vaccinated.
Where are all the turbo cancers?
 

BudToaster

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You are 7x more likely to get myocarditis from actual covid, than the vaccine.
You are more likely to die if you get covid and are unvaccinated, than vaccinated.
Where are all the turbo cancers?
from Chat ...

Yes, there have been reports of myocarditis occurring after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination, particularly among young males. However, it is important to note that these cases are rare and generally mild. Most patients with myocarditis after vaccination respond well to treatment and recover quickly12.

The risk of myocarditis from the mRNA vaccines is significantly lower compared to the risk of myocarditis from a COVID-19 infection. For example, among males aged 12 to 17, the incidence of myocarditis was about 22 to 36 per 100,000 within 21 days after receiving a second vaccine dose, whereas the incidence was 50.1 to 64.9 cases per 100,000 after infection with the COVID-19 virus2.


damn my math skills are rusty.
 

Captain Red Eye

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You are 7x more likely to get myocarditis from actual covid, than the vaccine.
You are more likely to die if you get covid and are unvaccinated, than vaccinated.
Where are all the turbo cancers?

Believe what you want, that is your right. When you go to mainstream sources all you will get is mainstream info. Were they the same guys getting paid by pharma sponsorships? The same guys who also said it was 95% effective? Just the 2 shots to be safe right? Just get jabbed and you won't catch it or pass it, right? Just get jabbed and you won't go to hospital, right? Just get jabbed and you won't die, right? Righto!

So, you just refuse to read the preprint then because he shared it? Well, hopefully you won't need a transplant or blood transfusion anytime soon. You do you - Mr establishment beer goggles, What did you say a couple of posts back? "My Gov didn't lie". Hey, if it helps you sleep at night.

It's the free roaming spike in the blood that has been linked to Mycard. They even established in one study a link to vax spike - which is different to naturally caught C19 spike apparently.

Here's two scenarios for you to consider:

1. Someone with full blown C19 infection sneezes on your face. You ingest say, 10,000 spikes through your mucosal and innate immune system (the way nature intended). By the way, natural infection lets the body build up it's entire natural defenses (which far outlast the jabs, offers better protection against variants, and does not result in negative immunity after two months like the jabs offer).

2. Instead of "catching" it that way, - you decide instead to listen to the 24/7 propaganda machine. So you get jabbed with (how many?) the quackzine and it gives your body hundreds of millions of instructions to create the toxic spike protien internally. It enters straight into the body, even into the blood stream. This method, bypasses the natural immune pathways.

The majority went for number 2. So don't feel bad. But the difference there is that your own body is acting like a trojan horse because a successful SINGLE shot (with all MRNA intact) can produce hundreds of BILLIONS of spike protiens within the body - and all over the body.

Do you think your body needs that much, to form a defence and memory? Do you think those spikes, should end up in the skin, or the brain? How about the spleen, kidneys or liver? Stomach? Maybe the heart? Anywhere we have ACE2 receptors? Is that good is it? Do you feel good about staying strong for the establishment? You and Mean Mustard are great cheerleaders for corruption, I'll give you that much credit at least.

Do you recall the live or attenuated versions of vaxxes? What category you would place this nano tech gene therapy into, if you had to? Weakened? Neutral? Supercharged? New category? Note, that some folks i.e. long covid/long jab have been found to be generating vax spike up to two years after thier last jab.

Why do you think the mainstream ("fact" checkers especially) clowns jumped on it so hard as just another "theory"? Why did Fauci and co talk about it not being naturally occuring, then did the old switcharoo and went the other way? Was it his team that was paying ecohealth to work on gain of function in wuhan or someone else?

Would you have agreed to take the jab if you knew C19 was made in a lab? Would you have agreed if they stated you may still be generating proteins that are toxic to the body and that that can travel all over the body, up to two years later - with consequences unknown nor cared about? I think not. Put your pom poms down.

A word to the wise, Bird Flu also looks to be made made. If they offer the jabs because it "naturally evolved" to jump to humans, just be aware of what you are supporting. Psychopaths that make viruses, release/"leak" them and then offer the "solution" to the problem they caused.

For those that support this kind of parasitic energy, you have some inner work to do.
 
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BudToaster

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transfection of a healthy human is criminally negligent.

if a jab actually has RNA in it - some vials had no phosphorus - the best case outcome of being transfected is autoimmune disease.

i get it. biology is tough. being an engineer helps me understand the nuances. and i do a lot of my study (and work) in the recliner. with The Herbal Cube (TM) by my side. sometimes in the Adirondack on the balcony watching the river roll by.
 
Anytime some finding as serious as turbo cancers etc. gets out it becomes very quick work to get "fact checked" buy the usual media agencies and offshoots that pushed the jabs to begin with, it's not in their best interest to have been pushing the jabs on behalf of who pay them, then to turn around and bad talk it.

Guaranteed, these fact checkers all stated the lab leak theory was just that, theory, but now that more info is known, have they come out and done a 180? Nope, they will stay in same lanes they get paid to.
What simpletons do, is read a counter to a claim or finding like increased cancer diagnosis such as a fact check and will leave it at that: "ahh someone has already done the work for me, they say turbo cancers aren't a thing - nothign to worry about, I was right". Only issue is, what if the "fact checks" are a form of censorship for the establishment?

I have observed someone being told they have 3 months to live, because a cancer they had had progressed so far and hard that it normally would have taken about 3 to 5 years to get there. This was 15 months ago and she's still kicking. She had 5 jabs and each time she would get a jab the Doc would do a cancer test shortly after. The counts were always higher. They had her signed up to palliative care admission and all. She stopped with the jabs and her diagnosis is basically back to where is was originally. Sure, it's not proof, but it would be highly ignorant to dismiss it outright.

I agree, that we can't put all our eggs in any one basket when it comes to new research and findings but we can observe and listen to what others have to say from their experience.

Youtube is one of the biggest censors of truth and has been throughout the plannedemic, the presenters have to word things very cautiously so as not to be taken down. But there are some gems that fall through the cracks and what I do is read the comments, what do others have to say on the subject? What are thier real life experiences?

As an example, this Doc presents in a fairly unbiased way, check out the vid and comments, do you think they would all just be anti vaxxers, bullshitting to try and get a point across? Is there no way that any of the 7,500 comments could be genuine? Video:

An extremely big eye opener are the ex nurse and doctor videos. The ones that got fired as a result of not going along with the covid protocols, you can get some very interesting information from those.

But we can't just rely on videos and comments obviously before we form conclusions, so how about some $cience for those who will not believe anything else? How's about this one, who wants to discuss it? Mean Mustard? Chi13? Old Hippy? Your thoughts on the findings?

Wiley. 25 Aug 2022: "Persistent varicella zoster virus infection following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination was associated with the presence of encoded spike protein in the lesion"

"In summary, we presented a case of persistent VZV infection following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination and the presence of SP in the affected skin. Further vigilance of the vaccine side effect and investigation for the role of SP is warranted."

Study link: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cia2.12278

Just to highlight, that finding was in August 2022. If nothing else, this demostrates the fact that vax induced spike is finding it's way into skin (and not staying put at the arm). The body will regard the spike as an enemy and attack. So for the hardcore pro vax (anti choice) folks out there - is this good, if the spike is not staying put at the arm? Should there be some investigations into it, or no?
 

BudToaster

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good biology discussion in that video. and the comments list many turbo cancers ... so an answer to the question "where are the turbo cancers?"

ya know, since they don't have to prove what's in the vial and nobody is getting the boosters (1.2%) it is probably just NYC tap water. so, a nice study of the result of fluoride injections.
 
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BudToaster

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from my sunday morning readings ...

“I [Susan Humphries] was not a pediatrician, so I didn't come at this from an autism standpoint or from an allergy standpoint,” she says. “I didn't get to that until later. Early on, it was more about watching my patients who already had kidney failure experience worsening kidney failure after they were vaccinated or watching them bleed out after a biopsy of the kidney after they were vaccinated, because vaccines change your coagulation profile.

That was shown as early as the 1960s by an Italian researcher named Del Campo. He did one of the few studies that really tracked biological indicators and children over days, weeks and months, and found antacid production, inflammatory markers, coagulopathies.

In the end, he said vaccination is a trauma of considerable measure, and it should be undertaken with great caution. And yet, what we've seen since then is the addition of more and more vaccines to all of us, not just children …

I was basically watching adults have malignant hypertension, develop proteinuria protein in the urine, really nasty entities that are hard to deal with.”
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Probably missed the item that a lot of batches were contaminated with large amount of DNA. In Germany they found 2000ng/ml where max 10ng is allowed. This was not naked DNA, but protected with nano particles so easy to absorp into the cells.

Don't forget the RKI files in Germany, which was published by a whistleblower of RKI.
 

buzzmobile

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[Susan Humphries]
Suzanne Humphries

The updated and expanded 10th-anniversary edition of “Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History,” by Dr. Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk, empowers readers with information, encourages critical examination of vaccine policies and advocates for informed consent in medical decisions.

Buy the book.
 

BudToaster

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I'm not even replying to a post that talks about non existent "turbo cancers", let alone playing the clip.
ok, sorry to bother you.

i finally know a turbo cancer, but old, so doesn't count. and a died suddenly - sil of the turbo cancer - 42, heart attack, dead before his head hit the floor. leaving wife and 4 children. just had a complete physical for insurance and (reportedly) in perfect health. just dead, that's all.
 
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