Have You Been Vaccinated?

[mexcurandero420]

Another drug which is used for a long time in medicine seems to work against Covid.

Structural basis for repurposing a 100-years-old drug suramin for treating COVID-19

Wanchao Yin, Xiaodong Luan, Zhihai Li, Leike Zhang, Ziwei Zhou, Minqi Gao, Xiaoxi Wang, Fulai Zhou, Jingjing Shi, Erli You, Mingliang Liu, Qingxia Wang, Qingxing Wang, Yi Jiang, Hualiang Jiang, Gengfu Xiao, Xuekui Yu, Shuyang Zhang, View ORCID ProfileH. Eric Xu
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.10.06.328336

SUMMARY


The COVID-19 pandemic by non-stop infections of SARS-CoV-2 has continued to ravage many countries worldwide. Here we report the discovery of suramin, a 100-year-old drug, as a potent inhibitor of the SARS-CoV-2 RNA dependent RNA polymerase (RdRp) through blocking the binding of RNA to the enzyme. In biochemical assays, suramin and its derivatives are at least 20-fold more potent than remdesivir, the currently approved nucleotide drug for COVID-19. The 2.6 Å cryo-EM structure of the viral RdRp bound to suramin reveals two binding sites of suramin, with one site directly blocking the binding of the RNA template strand and the other site clash with the RNA primer strand near the RdRp catalytic active site, therefore inhibiting the viral RNA replication. Furthermore, suramin potently inhibits SARS-CoV-2 duplication in Vero E6 cells. These results provide a structural mechanism for the first non-nucleotide inhibitor of the SARS-CoV-2 RdRp and a rationale for repurposing suramin for treating COVID-19.

not peerviewed yet
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.06.328336v1

 

[mexweed]

a guy I work with was out for 2 weeks with a variant was coughing and having breathing issues so bad he couldn't talk for the first week, the day before he didn't come to work/went into quarantine and 2 days before he tested positive he was at work working the same shift as me coughing super bad and he has a bad habit of spitting, I had gotten my second pfizer about 1.5 weeks prior and I was fine no symptoms whatsoever

 

[mexcurandero420]

if you're worried about s proteins from the vaxx, you oughtta be EXTRA worried about those same proteins FROM THE LIVE VIRUS!

imagine having covid-19 ON TOP of any problems the s protein might contribute to.

if you use a tiny bit of brain power, you will see that the vaxx is the logical choice.

Those vaccines are the same evil as the virus with the spike proteins, so in your logic thinking, when using the vaxx, there will be no danger at all, but we don't see that back in practice.Young adolescents vaccinated now have the chance with a life threating heart condition and blood clothes among young women, strokes in the elderly and probably we see more people in the near future with brain damage and while fully vaccinated, still spreading the virus to others.
The Dutch bureau of Statistics doesn't understand why there is more excess mortality, while it should have dropped
In week 15 (12 to 18 April 2021), it is estimated that just under 3,200 people died. That is almost 200 deaths more than expected for this period, and slightly more deaths than in the week before (3 132). In particular, more people aged 65 to 80 died than expected, and there was also excess mortality among people younger than 65.

Strange that it is the same group who got vaccinated.The Dutch started on January 4th with vaccination.

 

[mexcurandero420]

 

[gaiusmarius]

a guy I work with was out for 2 weeks with a variant was coughing and having breathing issues so bad he couldn't talk for the first week, the day before he didn't come to work/went into quarantine and 2 days before he tested positive he was at work working the same shift as me coughing super bad and he has a bad habit of spitting, I had gotten my second pfizer about 1.5 weeks prior and I was fine no symptoms whatsoever

to me this guy is a moron, if your sick, stay the fuck home! how fucking hard is that? glad you didnt get contaminated. this shit is no joke, i still can't smell like before and its been 6 months or so now. luckily i do smell things again, but i smell bad smells on some soap, dusch gel and detergents now. i have to test sniff any of those before i buy them, otherwise washing hands is an ordeal lol. i get this harsh chemical smell from some soaps now etc. hand made soap smells normal, its all very strange.

these days, if you feel even the slightest bit sick, ie coughing etc, stay home FS! do NOT go to work!

 

[gaiusmarius]

so SRF the Swiss tv station had a program yesterday about vaccine side effects and the difference between hesitancy and anti vaxer. they did everything to reassure people. they acknowledge some side effects but maintain that Swiss Medic says the numbers are still negligible even though they are rising as more and more are vaccinated and as more time passes. the consensus was that getting the shot is the best option for most people. the guy from the govs covid task force said that 16 to 25s have to make their own decisions just like everyone else, that even 12 to 16 will be able to get it if they want to, although he agreed that the younger you are the less in danger you are from covid.

but in the end they had to admit that long term effects are not known and will only become known years down the road. the safety data now is just based on very short term effects data. that fact alone is a remarkable first. normally side effects are studied for years before a vaccine is certified for use on the general public. this is the largest vaccine trail in the history of the human race, every single person getting it, is a guinea pig in a medical experiment.

apparently we are now at the point where we have enough vaccines that literally anyone can get vaccinated who wants to. i will wait a bit longer, having had covid twice i don't think it will kill me now, if it does i guess thats life, no one gets out of life alive.

i do want to say, caution is warranted, the first time it got me was a real trip, had i been unlucky i might have died. it caused a full lung infection and i was really sick for weeks.

 

[flylowgethigh]

When they start offering tests for antibodies, to see if a person has immunity, then we can talk. Remember "herd immunity"? Just another foochie lie.

 

[EsterEssence]

Here in America we have a choice about getting vaccinated, a lot of other countries will be glad to take the vaccine that we don’t want, hell they are flying here just to get the vaccine. I don’t get why people won’t get the vaccine, if not for you how about some compassion for your fellow man...

 

[nepalnt21]

Those vaccines are the same evil as the virus with the spike proteins, so in your logic thinking, when using the vaxx, there will be no danger at all, but we don't see that back in practice.

no, my logic is NOT that there will be no danger, my logic is that there will be LESS danger than NOT getting the vaccine.

Young adolescents vaccinated now have the chance with a life threating heart condition and blood clothes among young women, strokes in the elderly and probably we see more people in the near future with brain damage and while fully vaccinated, still spreading the virus to others.

imagine how bad it'd be if they got that... ON TOP of covid-19

 

[St. Phatty]

Here in America we have a choice about getting vaccinated, a lot of other countries will be glad to take the vaccine that we don’t want, hell they are flying here just to get the vaccine. I don’t get why people won’t get the vaccine, if not for you how about some compassion for your fellow man...

Because it's not a vaccine, but mainly because there are other treatments with Zero medical risk and much better effectiveness.

Not something I care to debate but Dr. Kory and his peers like talking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_b4NRTB6k

Of course there are major implications about functional treatments deliberately being withheld.

It puts the US gov in the position of murdering 600K Americans.


First the US finances research to develop a virus similar to Covid19, though we will probably never know for sure if the 2x $3.7 million contracts let to Daszak & "EcoHealth" created the specific virus that Patient Zero was infected with.

Then the US gov. withholds effective treatments.

Then the general public puts up with that and injects themselves with an experimental therapy.

It's like watching drunk teenagers at a party shining high powered lasers in each other's eyes.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Wise Words By Dr Dolores Cahill, Professor In Immunology And Vaccines


Published on June 2, 2021

Written by John O'Sullivan

Eminent medical professor has stern words for those people who say “I’ve had my vaccine and I feel fine.’ Dolores Cahill, an immunologist and world-renowned expert on vaccines will tell you that such a statement is an uneducated and ignorant defence from anyone claiming it as proof that the vaccine works, when confronting anyone who questions it.

Professor Cahill says If that’s your defence, then you haven’t listened to a single word anyone has said, including science itself.

It’s an mRNA vaccine. Innovative medicine. Completely untested. Unlike any other vaccine. In fact, it steps out of medicine and firmly into genetics. Let me explain.

What is RNA? RNA is Ribonucleic Acid. And if you actually went to school, you will have heard of DNA. This is deoxyribonucleic Acid. And if you know anything about DNA, it contains the genetic makeup of any organism.

Both are very similar, yet have their differences also. But, more importantly, let’s talk about their functions.

DNA replicates and stores genetic information. It is a blueprint for all genetic information contained within an organism. RNA converts the genetic information contained within DNA to a format used to build proteins, and then moves it to ribosomal protein factories.

The mRNA vaccine is a synthetic “messenger” RNA strand, that converts genetic information within DNA.

Now they’ve told you that they do this to produce proteins to in order to strengthen the immune system to fight the Covid virus, but if you really look at the bigger picture here, it might leave you quite numb to understand the potential reality of the situation.

If you have had the vaccine, rest assured that your DNA is now changing. Do you have any idea of the implications of that? Your genetic makeup is mutating.

You are being put under extreme pressure to take a substance that changes your genetic makeup, all because of a virus that has no more than a 0.03% fatality rate. A virus that is parallel with the flu (which has mysteriously vanished since the arrival of Covid). Not to mention that the FDA have not approved this as a legitimate vaccine as yet, but have only approved for emergency use.

This means that it’s being tested on you! Most “vaccine” companies don’t even refer to this as a vaccine, but as an “operating system.” I’ll assume that Mr Gates likes to call it this!

If you are ignorant enough to tell me that I am selfish enough to want my DNA to remain intact, at the risk of somebody’s life, who already has underlying conditions and probably would have died from the flu or any other ailment, due to their own failing immune system, then you are completely insane.

I see people stating that ‘if it’s the only way to get back to normal, then I’m having it.’ I’m just gobsmacked.

These people are more than prepared to risk change of the very fabric of what “life” is, just so they can get their “life” back?

If you think I’m talking rubbish then more fool you. Go and have the vaccine. Hopefully, you wont have to regret your decision, should the time come.

This information is readily available for you to read. If you are ignorant enough to roll up your sleeves with your eyes completely shut, then maybe you have no idea on what the meaning of “life” actually is, and you’re chasing a complete fantasy.
You think its about saving lives.

You think it’s as clear cut as “life or death.” It’s not. It’s not dying from a vaccine that I’m scared of. It’s living with it’s potential long term effects. As opposed to the 99.97% survival rate that will see the back of the effects of Covid in about a week.
So you took the vaccine and didn’t die. Wonderful news!

I didn’t take the vaccine and I didn’t die either!

Let’s pick this back up in several years, when I’m still human… God knows what you are.”

More at dolorescahill.com

 

[igrowone]

it's the end of the world as we know it
and I feel fine

 

[Amynamous]

Wise Words By Dr Dolores Cahill, Professor In Immunology And Vaccines


Published on June 2, 2021

Written by John O'Sullivan

Eminent medical professor has stern words for those people who say “I’ve had my vaccine and I feel fine.’ Dolores Cahill, an immunologist and world-renowned expert on vaccines will tell you that such a statement is an uneducated and ignorant defence from anyone claiming it as proof that the vaccine works, when confronting anyone who questions it.

Professor Cahill says If that’s your defence, then you haven’t listened to a single word anyone has said, including science itself.

It’s an mRNA vaccine. Innovative medicine. Completely untested. Unlike any other vaccine. In fact, it steps out of medicine and firmly into genetics. Let me explain.

What is RNA? RNA is Ribonucleic Acid. And if you actually went to school, you will have heard of DNA. This is deoxyribonucleic Acid. And if you know anything about DNA, it contains the genetic makeup of any organism.

Both are very similar, yet have their differences also. But, more importantly, let’s talk about their functions.

DNA replicates and stores genetic information. It is a blueprint for all genetic information contained within an organism. RNA converts the genetic information contained within DNA to a format used to build proteins, and then moves it to ribosomal protein factories.

The mRNA vaccine is a synthetic “messenger” RNA strand, that converts genetic information within DNA.

Now they’ve told you that they do this to produce proteins to in order to strengthen the immune system to fight the Covid virus, but if you really look at the bigger picture here, it might leave you quite numb to understand the potential reality of the situation.

If you have had the vaccine, rest assured that your DNA is now changing. Do you have any idea of the implications of that? Your genetic makeup is mutating.

You are being put under extreme pressure to take a substance that changes your genetic makeup, all because of a virus that has no more than a 0.03% fatality rate. A virus that is parallel with the flu (which has mysteriously vanished since the arrival of Covid). Not to mention that the FDA have not approved this as a legitimate vaccine as yet, but have only approved for emergency use.

This means that it’s being tested on you! Most “vaccine” companies don’t even refer to this as a vaccine, but as an “operating system.” I’ll assume that Mr Gates likes to call it this!

If you are ignorant enough to tell me that I am selfish enough to want my DNA to remain intact, at the risk of somebody’s life, who already has underlying conditions and probably would have died from the flu or any other ailment, due to their own failing immune system, then you are completely insane.

I see people stating that ‘if it’s the only way to get back to normal, then I’m having it.’ I’m just gobsmacked.

These people are more than prepared to risk change of the very fabric of what “life” is, just so they can get their “life” back?

If you think I’m talking rubbish then more fool you. Go and have the vaccine. Hopefully, you wont have to regret your decision, should the time come.

This information is readily available for you to read. If you are ignorant enough to roll up your sleeves with your eyes completely shut, then maybe you have no idea on what the meaning of “life” actually is, and you’re chasing a complete fantasy.
You think its about saving lives.

You think it’s as clear cut as “life or death.” It’s not. It’s not dying from a vaccine that I’m scared of. It’s living with it’s potential long term effects. As opposed to the 99.97% survival rate that will see the back of the effects of Covid in about a week.
So you took the vaccine and didn’t die. Wonderful news!

I didn’t take the vaccine and I didn’t die either!

Let’s pick this back up in several years, when I’m still human… God knows what you are.”

More at dolorescahill.com

Was that gibberish written by Dolores Cahill or John O’Sullivan?

The claim that either of the mRNA vaccines actually “changes your DNA” have been disproved.
Also, the mortality rate of Covid19 is closer to 2% than 0.03%. For comparison purposes, influenza has a mortality rate of 0.2%.
When people spout obvious known bullshit, they have zero credibility.

https://www.google.com/search?q=doe...&ved=0ahUKEwicqZLHgfzwAhXoB50JHVA4DRkQ4dUDCA0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates

While I realize that some people shun wikipedia, there are sources listed for each virus.

​​​​​​​https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5935243/

 

[aridbud]

Lies, Lie and more lies about vaccine faux news......
Shoot,(no pun intended) you can sign up for a lottery giving away rifles and shotguns in WV if you get vaccinated. You can have a beer with Biden, er Budweiser will foot the beer tab for you. I think many states are gift cards for food. WIN/WIN and NO it doesn't' alter DNA. Geeze. Spoken true by Amynamous, The claim that either of the mRNA vaccines actually “changes your DNA” have been disproved time and time again!

 

[gaiusmarius]

its all very well to say it changes your dna, but you have to explain that and show studies agreeing. personally i don't worry about nano bots or changed dna, or becoming magnetic, i worry about un foreseen long term side effects.

 

[mexcurandero420]

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[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]Was that gibberish written by Dolores Cahill or John O’Sullivan?[/FONT]

[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]The claim that either of the mRNA vaccines actually “changes your DNA” have been disproved.[/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]Also, the mortality rate of Covid19 is closer to 2% than 0.03%. For comparison purposes, influenza has a mortality rate of 0.2%.[/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]When people spout obvious known bullshit, they have zero credibility.[/FONT]

[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]https://www.google.com/search?q=doe...&ved=0ahUKEwicqZLHgfzwAhXoB50JHVA4DRkQ4dUDCA0[/FONT]

[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_disease_case_fatality_rates[/FONT]

[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]While I realize that some people shun wikipedia, there are sources listed for each virus.[/FONT]

[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5935243/[/FONT]


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[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]Last year mortality was 3.5, now according to your link 2.1, but is everyone tested? You have probably far more cases than what is tested and wiki is not always your best source.[/FONT]

[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]Where is the paper that it is disapproved that mRNA is not changing your DNA.The whole mRNA technique is still under investigation, why should you report if you have any side effects to the CDC or EMA or any other medicine agency? The whole jab circus has an emergency registration, so not a full registration and the vaccinated are the guinea pigs at the moment for the phase III trail.[/FONT]

 

[Gry]

Where exactly did you find a paper stating a vaccine to be "evil" , the term used in your response to nepalnt21 in an earlier post today.

 

[Gry]

There were approximately 2 dozen different vaccines produced and used.
With that many, one would anticipate that there would be some that worked out better than others.
Cuba produced them using the "traditional" route, which is to say without the "new" approach.
Will be more than interesting to see with the passage of time, how the new approach compares with the traditional route.
Nice to see the US starting to allow a slightly more even distribution of the vaccines to the balance of the world.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Where exactly did you find a paper stating a vaccine to be "evil" , the term used in your response to nepalnt21 in an earlier post today.

Real life shows that it is evil like this real story.The medical establishment is in denial.What most people at the moment get is Pfizer.

Christianne's father (77) died shortly after his second vaccination: 'He was in excruciating pain'


A 77-year-old man from Arnhem has died hours after receiving a second covid vaccination. A connection has not yet been established. However, his daughter hopes that potentially severe side effects of the injections will be taken more seriously and that patients will not be left to their own devices.

By: Henri van Veen

Christianne Melgert tells about her father Chris who died in the early morning of May 19. The day before, he received his second shot with the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine at the Papendal sports center near Arnhem. The side effects turned out to be severe, Melgert died.

A connection between the vaccination and the death of Chris Melgert from Arnhem has not been established. His children are waiting for the results of the autopsy on their father's body.


On April 13, the resident of Arnhem received his first vaccination. According to data from the RIVM, about 2.5 million people had had at least one shot with that vaccine. By the day of his second shot, some 5 million people had had at least one Pfizer shot.

Fewer deaths after second vaccination, Lareb reports

According to side effects center Lareb, 280 deaths have been reported so far following a vaccination with the vaccine Christianne's father received. The number of deaths after the second injection is considerably lower. 205 deaths were reported after the first vaccination with BioNtech/Pfizer and 75 after the second shot with that vaccine.
Lareb reports that in a large proportion of deaths, 'health problems are the most obvious explanation for the death'.
Christianne Melgert finds it difficult to swallow this explanation. "My father was a man who was healthy for his age (he was 77, ed.). He did have neck and back problems. He was known to have a neck hernia. I know that after a Pfizer shot you can get muscle pain and that fatigue is also a common complaint. You won't die from that."
'He's not a beeper'

Pretty soon after his second shot with the vaccine, on May 18, the Arnhemmer complained of unbearable pain. He did not want to bother his children with it and sought medical help himself in the evenings. At that time, Melgert couldn't get his doctor on the phone, because the general practitioner (HAP) is on duty in the evening, night and at weekends.After Melgert called 112, an ambulance showed up. The ambulance brother gave the man from Arnhem 5 milligrams of morphine and 2 paracetamol for the pain.
Christianne Melgert and her sister spoke to the paramedic, which was around 10:45 PM.Christianne: "He indicated that if the pain had not subsided within an hour, daddy should call the HAP. We also spoke to daddy on the phone and agreed that we would call him in an hour to see how things were going. necessary, because it is not a beeper."

My father started the discussion​

The pain did not subside.Melgert's daughter: "He couldn't take it anymore. The morphine didn't work and then he called the GP."
The HAP operator told Melgert that someone had to come and get him a prescription. "My father started the discussion," says Christianne Melgert. "He wanted a doctor or an ambulance and didn't want to call his daughters because that wouldn't be the solution."
Christianne Melgert, who lives in Emmerich, has requested the conversation that her father had with the HAP. It states that 'the patient moans a lot on the phone, but does not appear painful during the discussion. Feeling theatrical behavior'.
The conversation between Chris Melgert and the 911 operator, the first time he needed help, lasted almost 14 minutes and was at 9:45 pm. The ambulance was with him at about 10:15 p.m. Almost an hour and a half later, Melgert still called the GP post. That conversation lasted 20 minutes.
After that phone call, 77-year-old Melgert called Christianne's sister in Slijk-Ewijk in a panic. He said they (the doctor of the HAP, ed.) did not want to come." Christianne's sister later found their father lifeless on the couch. "They resuscitated my father for twenty minutes, but it was no longer useful."

Traumatic last moments

Those final moments were traumatic for Chris Melgert's children. Christianne: "During the conversation with 112 that my sister had, the operator asked her to check daddy's heartbeat. My sister had walked out because she couldn't handle it. Then the operator said if she couldn't reach the neighbors But it was already a quarter to one in the morning. Then don't ring the bell, then help has to come."
She says: "My sister has nightmares about finding my father on the couch and I can't get the images of the CPR out of my head."
Why is she ringing the bell? "Of course I don't know if my father would have been alive if they had admitted him. I won't get my father back with it, but I want more attention for possible serious side effects after the second vaccination with Pfizer. He had a blood pressure of 170 /110. Then you just take someone with you, right?!"

Director Roland Ekkelenkamp of the GPpost in Arnhem says that his organization would like to talk to Melgert's daughter."We cannot comment on this matter because of privacy," he says. "But we take this complaint very seriously and we have launched an investigation."

Dutch news

 

[Amynamous]

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[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]Last year mortality was 3.5, now according to your link 2.1, but is everyone tested? You have probably far more cases than what is tested and wiki is not always your best source.[/FONT]
The worldwide mortality rate has been slowly decreasing, probably due to improved risk reduction and better treatment modalities

[FONT=Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif]Where is the paper that it is disapproved that mRNA is not changing your DNA.
Heres the link(same as below) https://www.google.com/search?q=doe...&ved=0ahUKEwicqZLHgfzwAhXoB50JHVA4DRkQ4dUDCA0
I left it as an open ended search question. You can pick the article you want. I am guessing they all state the same thing. I have yet to see anything definitive that says otherwise.

The whole mRNA technique is still under investigation, why should you report if you have any side effects to the CDC or EMA or any other medicine agency? The whole jab circus has an emergency registration, so not a full registration and the vaccinated are the guinea pigs at the moment for the phase III trail.[/FONT]
Jab circus? Where I am, it is definitely not a circus. It is very organized and people are well looked after. Compared to the known risks and dangers of Sars2, I’ll take the vaccine route.
I read an interesting article the other day and posted it somewhere here. It basically said that within the US, infection rates, hospitalizations and mortality rates are very high among the unvaccinated. Among the vaccinated, hospitalizations and deaths are practically nil. In other words, with the US re-opening it’s economy, many unvaccinated are dying because they are not taking precautions. It’s amazing to me that very few people seem to care. Freedom, right?

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