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Hatch's Hootenanny of Horticulture

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Robrites

How about Heat treating them? Plastic tent over plants. Get it up to 120+?

I have been thinking about that all day...wondering about the humidity inside....think 115 is the number we need for 30 minutes.

WTF - is there to lose?

I like my coffee like I like my plastic - black!:)
 

TheOutlawTree

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If you are extremely against chems-

Than order some PFR-97 immediately.

Go to grow store tomorrow and buy Met-52 while you wait for PFR-97 to arrive.

Start spraying plants every single night with met-52 and than PFR-97 when it arrives. Not both in one night, but one or the other preferably PFR-97.

You still have hope bro, your just going to have to work extra hard spraying all the time.

Live and Learn... Now you know why an effective Integrated pest management program as a preventative is so important. I learned that this year as well.
 

HatchBrew

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Wasn't prepared for these. Usual problems: PM, Caterpillars, Spider mites, rippers. check check check check. These a-holes. Nope not prepared.
 

HatchBrew

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If you are extremely against chems-

Than order some PFR-97 immediately.

Go to grow store tomorrow and buy Met-52 while you wait for PFR-97 to arrive.

Start spraying plants every single night with met-52 and than PFR-97 when it arrives. Not both in one night, but one or the other preferably PFR-97.

You still have hope bro, your just going to have to work extra hard spraying all the time.

Live and Learn... Now you know why an effective Integrated pest management program as a preventative is so important. I learned that this year as well.

Chem route. Anyway to go and still smoke the buds?
 

HatchBrew

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"More than usual" number of growers every day as well. The average distance between gardens is getting shorter and shorter and the number of people who do some form of growing or another or directly or indirectly come into contact with a grow is increasing at an alarming rate. It's no wonder this is more of an issue now than ever before. Not to mention building resistance over time.

I'm not sure an easy "cure" would be beneficial to the commercial-minded growers.

Would just take one growers taking them to the grow shop, then many other growers could then have them.


I'm not commercial, just a backyard gardener.
 

soopy

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Damn Hatch, I'm really sorry to hear you're having to deal with this nightmare....I feel for you man. Are there any unaffected cuts you could salvage now? Dip them in a 10% bleach solution and maybe root them in isolation to see if they are affected? I'll gladly hook you up with some replacement seeds for the plants you lost....stay up man...
 

TheOutlawTree

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Chem route. Anyway to go and still smoke the buds?

Are they flowering right now?

If they are not flowering yet you can hit them with chem's up until they start budding. Obviously none of us prefer to use chem's but in your circumstance I believe it could be the only way to save your crop.

You can absolutely safely smoke your buds after the chems are applied, just don't spray if your in flower. Remember that most of the residue will be washed off when you continue to spray PFR-97 for a couple weeks after the chem's.

If your super concerned you can dunk your branches in cold water when your harvesting- before you dry them. A speaker at the emerald cup suggested dunking branches at harvest to increase potency (washes off all the dust / dirt ). Shake water logged branches off before you hang them to dry.
 

panick503

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Met 52 and pfr 97 arent chemicals, they are safe to use in flower... Not sure if ur plants are too far gone for it to be effective though... Heat could do the trick too, but it will be difficult to maintain the required temps in an unenclosed area
 
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Robrites

Met 52 and pfr 97 arent chemicals, they are safe to use in flower... Not sure if ur plants are too far gone for it to be effective though... Heat could do the trick too, but it will be difficult to maintain the required temps in an unenclosed area

Depending on plant size, 60 gallon contractor garbage bags might work on a hot day
 

HatchBrew

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Removed the worst offenders, two Sierra OGs by Holistic Farms. And several damaged branches off of other plants. Tossed the worst effected stuff in veg area (clones from Outside). Clean up, preserve what I can. There will be some casualties.

Thank you all for the advice and support in this situation.

I've felt like this before meeting a problem that I wasn't ready for or knowledgeable on fighting it. They are all behind me now and feel humor in my previous dilemmas compared to this one. Don't know the outcome, could lose the battle, but I will always win the war after this.

Sprayed Met 52 last night. Giving everything until end of month to clear up. At that time I'll re-asses. Have arsenal stocked and rotation planned.
 

HatchBrew

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I think you can come out on top of this buddy

I'll take on top or she can. ;) Just really want some full happy jars to carry me thru the next year. Don't know what kind of growing i'll be able to get done with two babies to look after. Was really wanting to stock up and be able to chill out thru the following year.

It's worth a shot at least. You put in too much time to just throw in the towel.

I ain't got no stinking towel. Give em all I got. Won't use the nasty stuff, but going to be spraying daily for the next week+, then every other after that.

so sorry about your mite situation.

Thanks Bud! It is a learning opportunity. and belly-fire to not be lax again. full arsenal always, just learning what that arsenal needs to be.

Damn Hatch, I'm really sorry to hear you're having to deal with this nightmare....I feel for you man. Are there any unaffected cuts you could salvage now? Dip them in a 10% bleach solution and maybe root them in isolation to see if they are affected? I'll gladly hook you up with some replacement seeds for the plants you lost....stay up man...

Well the hash caps definitely helped :) ;). 10 grams went to 35 caps. licked the container clean after filling them yesterday, then took one couple hours before bed... sweet dreams are made of these!! Haven't slept that well (duration/quality) in a long time. Plus woke up feeling super-duper too. Made hash browns, chicken fried steak, and pancakes (momma-bear wanted something sweet) for the fam.
Everything is getting treated. Still have some cuts from outdoor, but tossed some. Clean up than take stock
See where I stand in two/three weeks than either continue on or burn down and start fresh.
 
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Robrites

You have the right mind and the right attitude for this challenge. You're gonna make it.

Burn everything you cut off the infected ones...and the plants you killed. You do not want the bad guys waiting for you next spring.
 

HatchBrew

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You have the right mind and the right attitude for this challenge. You're gonna make it.

Burn everything you cut off the infected ones...and the plants you killed. You do not want the bad guys waiting for you next spring.

Thanks for the support!

Bagged and burned.

Used 6 gallons spray last night. sprayed everything down. whole yard. all plants.

Poor sad chickens have been cooped up last couple days. They have a large run, but they like mixing it up in the yard.
 

who dat is

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Could you try heat treating the smaller ones with the black contractor bags to see how effective that method is? I've heard that they are very heat sensitive and that 3 cycles of minimum 112 at 20 minutes (double check) will kill them off.

If that proves effective maybe you could get more creative with the larger plants/plots with larger tarps. Wrap them up in full sun to heat them up to the required temps. You could get some of those inside/outside thermometers and put the "outside" probe inside the tarp area to read what the temps are getting to inside. Maybe even stick a heater with an extension cord in there to ensure proper temps.

Sorry for your issues bud! I'm waiting on my orthene to come in so I can hopefully take care of my Foxglove Root Aphids that I picked up from some shitty cuts (Horrible decision on my part, hindsight and all that jazz). Trial by fire, these occurrences certainly suck ass but they will make you a stronger, more experienced grower on the backside.

Keep us posted, wish you all the best :yes:
 
R

Robrites

Could you try heat treating the smaller ones with the black contractor bags to see how effective that method is? I've heard that they are very heat sensitive and that 3 cycles of minimum 112 at 20 minutes (double check) will kill them off.

If that proves effective maybe you could get more creative with the larger plants/plots with larger tarps. Wrap them up in full sun to heat them up to the required temps. You could get some of those inside/outside thermometers and put the "outside" probe inside the tarp area to read what the temps are getting to inside. Maybe even stick a heater with an extension cord in there to ensure proper temps.


Sorry for your issues bud! I'm waiting on my orthene to come in so I can hopefully take care of my Foxglove Root Aphids that I picked up from some shitty cuts (Horrible decision on my part, hindsight and all that jazz). Trial by fire, these occurrences certainly suck ass but they will make you a stronger, more experienced grower on the backside.

Keep us posted, wish you all the best :yes:

We should hit 105 degrees in the next couple of days at my garden....gonna try this.
 

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