Guerilla Underground Thread

[MountainBudz]

Nothing wrong with Google Earth to guide you into some class a ground a for a kick ass guerilla garden. But one thing I have come to find in my own experience is not to ALWAYS rely on Google Earth. I found a spot 2 years ago that allows me to space out and grow at least 16 large plants, all while receiving full sun. I had walked by this area of the woods so many times and all I had to of done was stepped over the field line and looked down over the bluff to find it.

Point is, Google Earth did not show this hidden gem. By looking at GE you would think the forest was so dense there that it would be impossible to grow in. But now that spot has become one of my top 3 areas out of many, many spots.

Edit: We have some deep, very deep rolling hills and hollars though here in Eastern Ky. So this might play part in why Google Earth does not accurately show these areas at their full potential.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I've found KML files with Env Canada that also does topology which is nice. But you're right, some great spots can't be seen in GE, and even when you find an opening, you absolutely need to physically go there and check it out.

The spring view is also good to see where it's wet and where water accumulates. It shows up darker.

 

[hamstring]

I've found KML files with Env Canada that also does topology which is nice. But you're right, some great spots can't be seen in GE, and even when you find an opening, you absolutely need to physically go there and check it out.

The spring view is also good to see where it's wet and where water accumulates. It shows up darker.

Very good point. When you advance the time on GE you see the water seem to disappear because of the vegetation buts its there. Nice point.

I also agree GE is just the beginning of finding a good (plot spot) rolls off the tongue.

I would disagree that most of us guerrillas have the opportunity to find these hidden gems that you speak of because in "my area" you don't have the opportunity to roam freely looking for good spots. You guys deserve big props for pointing out that different strokes for different folks ie "my area".

As I have mentioned before GE is just the very beginning. I had what I thought was a great find. I busted out the binos and drove by the place many times on a few different days. It looked perfect. Great exit and entrance avialability. I was sold. We happen to get some fresh snow and for some reason I decided to drive by again. Its a 40 minute drive but it was worth it. I saw ATV tracks in the corn/soybeans fields around it. I new even if they weren't leading into my GE picked plot spot it wasn't worth the chance.

The snow was less than 2 days old and already ATV tracks its obviously used on a regular basis.

Great thread much appreciated to see guerrillas on here breaking out good info.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

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The snow was less than 2 days old and already ATV tracks its obviously used on a regular basis.

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I don't think I mentioned this before. I have a spot close to home with an ATV/Skidoo trail right next to it. There has to be a couple dozen a day go by on weekends, then they come back the other way. The trail and my spot are separated by about 30 feet of cedars and small birch. I had a couple huge sativa's growing there and the smell was getting heavy. By chance there was a road kill skunk not far away. I stuck it in a box (*gag) and dropped it on the edge of the trail close to my plants. Worked like a charm. lol

That reminds me, I'll have to ask the wife to sew up a few fake pelts I can dirty up and drop close to my grows. Hope I can find Skunk Spray for it to give it that "je-ne-sais-quoi".

 

[Kygiacomo!!!]

I don't think I mentioned this before. I have a spot close to home with an ATV/Skidoo trail right next to it. There has to be a couple dozen a day go by on weekends, then they come back the other way. The trail and my spot are separated by about 30 feet of cedars and small birch. I had a couple huge sativa's growing there and the smell was getting heavy. By chance there was a road kill skunk not far away. I stuck it in a box (*gag) and dropped it on the edge of the trail close to my plants. Worked like a charm. lol

That reminds me, I'll have to ask the wife to sew up a few fake pelts I can dirty up and drop close to my grows. Hope I can find Skunk Spray for it to give it that "je-ne-sais-quoi".

i got a spot very similar to this. its right off the side of the road by about 35 or 40 foot. it gets full sun from 7am till 6 pm. i found the spot and was like no way in hell i will get away with this,but im gonna try it. i have been using it for the last 3 years now. its always a risk but you know how that goes.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Nothing wrong with Google Earth to guide you into some class a ground a for a kick ass guerilla garden. But one thing I have come to find in my own experience is not to ALWAYS rely on Google Earth. I found a spot 2 years ago that allows me to space out and grow at least 16 large plants, all while receiving full sun. I had walked by this area of the woods so many times and all I had to of done was stepped over the field line and looked down over the bluff to find it.

Point is, Google Earth did not show this hidden gem. By looking at GE you would think the forest was so dense there that it would be impossible to grow in. But now that spot has become one of my top 3 areas out of many, many spots.

Edit: We have some deep, very deep rolling hills and hollars though here in Eastern Ky. So this might play part in why Google Earth does not accurately show these areas at their full potential.

How steep are your hills? Are they more rolling like southeast Ohio or are they more jagged and steep like southeast Kentucky?

Where I'm at, shit is steep as hell. As a result, on Google Earth you're right that the forests look thicker than they are. But I feel like even where there is a very small gap, because of the steepness the window for sunlight is really, really tiny.

 

[MountainBudz]

How steep are your hills? Are they more rolling like southeast Ohio or are they more jagged and steep like southeast Kentucky?

Where I'm at, shit is steep as hell. As a result, on Google Earth you're right that the forests look thicker than they are. But I feel like even where there is a very small gap, because of the steepness the window for sunlight is really, really tiny.

I am in South East Kentucky brother... The heart of the Appalachias... I am a little on the "edge" of the most mountainous areas...
think "Daniel Boone National Forest", I am within 5 minutes of it. So we do have a small bit of flat ground around here, some soybean, hay and corn fields... Here you have the choice of growing in some steep ads mountains or on some flatter fields and valleys, lots of variations. Ideally, my neck of the woods would be considered "perfect", for the clandestine guerilla gardener

 

[MountainBudz]

i got a spot very similar to this. its right off the side of the road by about 35 or 40 foot. it gets full sun from 7am till 6 pm. i found the spot and was like no way in hell i will get away with this,but im gonna try it. i have been using it for the last 3 years now. its always a risk but you know how that goes.

You will be surprised Kygiacomo. I don't know if you remember my pics from maybe 3 years ago, but I had detailed pics growing a half pound "California Hash Plant" from Dinafem not even 4 foot from the road. I had the barbed wire fence and edge of the road on the photo about 4 foot from the edge of the plant.

In sure people get whiffs of it, that's how I would know but was still there, I would drive by and smell it every time. I could also look and see my buds plain as day as I drove by. There was vines crowed up in the fence, but of course I knew where to look lol. Not the best idea but I have grew a plant there now for 4 years and got by with it every time. Lucky I know... Lol.

This is one spot out of literally like 40 that I put a plant that close to the edge of the road in unattended fence lines. I will try and dig up that photo if it is still on the forums.

You just have to know exactly "where" to place the plant when roadside growing and always LST it low. Then test the waters, I have had maybe a 3% put of 100% loss this way, so that tells you it works pretty well. I'm not exaggerating.

Good to see you back on the forums as well brother!

 

[MountainBudz]

Very good point. When you advance the time on GE you see the water seem to disappear because of the vegetation buts its there. Nice point.

I also agree GE is just the beginning of finding a good (plot spot) rolls off the tongue.

I would disagree that most of us guerrillas have the opportunity to find these hidden gems that you speak of because in "my area" you don't have the opportunity to roam freely looking for good spots. You guys deserve big props for pointing out that different strokes for different folks ie "my area".

As I have mentioned before GE is just the very beginning. I had what I thought was a great find. I busted out the binos and drove by the place many times on a few different days. It looked perfect. Great exit and entrance avialability. I was sold. We happen to get some fresh snow and for some reason I decided to drive by again. Its a 40 minute drive but it was worth it. I saw ATV tracks in the corn/soybeans fields around it. I new even if they weren't leading into my GE picked plot spot it wasn't worth the chance.

The snow was less than 2 days old and already ATV tracks its obviously used on a regular basis.

Great thread much appreciated to see guerrillas on here breaking out good info.

Thank you for stopping by my thread Hamstring. Every time I see your name I always know you are a fellow guerilla brother since I have seen ya' around in the outdoor forums for some time now. Always good to see these people stick around and stay safe.

Maybe we don't all realize it, but all of us on this thread, well most of us, have that guerilla blood in us and mindset that no one else has and cannot in see strand even if you try to explain. We are a one of a kind and we are an extremely rare, brave and serious breed!

 

[MountainBudz]

I don't think I mentioned this before. I have a spot close to home with an ATV/Skidoo trail right next to it. There has to be a couple dozen a day go by on weekends, then they come back the other way. The trail and my spot are separated by about 30 feet of cedars and small birch. I had a couple huge sativa's growing there and the smell was getting heavy. By chance there was a road kill skunk not far away. I stuck it in a box (*gag) and dropped it on the edge of the trail close to my plants. Worked like a charm. lol

That reminds me, I'll have to ask the wife to sew up a few fake pelts I can dirty up and drop close to my grows. Hope I can find Skunk Spray for it to give it that "je-ne-sais-quoi".

This has always been a method of mine that I have not brought up in this specific thread, specifically. But I have in other guerilla threads here on IC back in the day, years. Lol.

But we always used to go "skunk poaching" late at night, either we popped em with a .22 rifle or we ran over them. Sometimes even trapped them. We would place them around areas that had activity when the stench of the bud got out of control. We also used them in and near driveways outside of outlaw indoor grows when the dank started over powering the classic cheapo carbon filters. Lol the things we dedicated guerillas do to get by! I love it!

And most of all, I love how we all share the bond. Like I was telling Hamstring, we all think alike in some form or way, we are a rare breed!

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Shit, I'm over here worried about how the smell from one, two, or heaven forbid three plants might be carried by the wind and be smelled from 150 yards away... (there's a very popular trail about that far away at its closest point).

That scares me enough to almost make me not want to plant there. But I've also got some C99 seeds for stealth purposes (apparently they're pretty mild on the smell front). I've got one spot where I want to put just one that someone will pass by a few times while mowing their fields. On one side it's about 50 yards' distance, about 35 yards' distance on two more sides. I'm debating not planting there at all.

Then again, perhaps I can only hope that the C99 doesn't stink much.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

This reminds me of a stunted Revolver we had a couple years ago. It was only about 12" tall so I stuck it in the veggie garden, and I tell ya, it was the stinkiest weed we ever grew.

We had family over for a dinner and were eating on the deck and a very strong skunk smell hit us in waves. "That frigging skunk is back" I said. My wife chuckled because a few people bent over the railing to look for it in the bush. lol

 

[VonBudí]

Edit: We have some deep, very deep rolling hills and hollars though here in Eastern Ky. So this might play part in why Google Earth does not accurately show these areas at their full potential.

have you added the topographic maps to google earth? would give you a better idea of the real layout of plots, i believe the us army has the us mapped pretty well, if not local university, forestry, geology, hunting/fishing or realestate agents would be able to provide you with links to better made local topo maps pluggins or link to a standalone map site.


google earth/bing to find places, local ordinance sites to fine tune.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I use GE, but I also use this I got from Troutman. It's only for Ontario Canada, but if we have it, sure as hell you have it in your state.
https://www.gisapplication.lrc.gov....ke_A_Topographic_Map&viewer=MATM&locale=en-US

For a couple good local KML files, Google OntarioGeophysics.kml and OntarioGroundwater.kml

Btw, OntarioGeophysics one is for those who are into the magnetic field effects on seedlings

On that note, look at this:

https://www.intechopen.com/books/advances-in-seed-biology/seed-dormancy

 

[-BRR-]

Hey all first post here. Just read through this thread and wanted to say thanks to all who shared. It’s been a good read and takes me back to being a child reading adventure books if you will and my days in cub scouts now I think about it. Fuck our leader (arkaila) we called him put us on some serious self navigated adventures. I’m forever in his debt. anyway moving on.

I’ve done a far few guerrilla grows over the years mostly all sheight (i may be a little harsh on myself here) anyway none the less really beneficial to my well being both physical and mental.Anyway i’ve learned allot but not enough to keep fucking it up but i’m still keen at heart, body hmm...

Last grow i used led lights/ solar panels,12v battery, Just one hour of light at night to veg.

Grown in 50 to 200 litre pots. fuel drums for on site res and pump from a river 150 odd meters away.I hand watered , vegged them to a size and moved them or dragged a few meters away to flower. Motion cams in patch etc.

anyway this was about a mile away. Guerrilla grow ? to close to really feel like it tbh. Anyway i’m a paranoid cnut. So caught some dudes on camera and had to pull. wasn’t a big grow nor was it in the planning for one but served me a few lb. The one thing it was was a perpetual grow with the veg light thing. Tropics here more or less 12/12 all year and just one hour a night (led) to keep your greens in veg. Was allot of work to set up and all for sweet fuck all in the end.(all that fucking organic high brix method soil i mixed and carted in by hand ffs!)

Anyway that was the latest mehfuck over and done with and i’ve moved away from there.

Good thing about a GG is that even a city dweller if he knows his shit can sling on a backpack jump on a motorbike and do the mission whist regenerating his batteries (health) at the same time. Coming back to the city is fresh again as well with a clear head.

Hope to have an adventure to share but I might talk some shit here for some time whilst i get organised in the head and prep up again.

ta

 

[-BRR-]

Further thoughts.....coming from recent self affirmations and ones i’ve always known to be true.

Grow in the ground.
It’s all about the leg work finding the ideal spot.
Ideal spot has ground moisture all year. Good stealth and sunlight (rocking horse shit yes).

I still have allot to learn though.

ok

 

[Biosynthesis]

I love the hard work you guys put into these gorilla patches. Reminds me of the good ol' days around here. Reeeespect!

 

[Rodehazrd]

Further thoughts.....coming from recent self affirmations and ones i’ve always known to be true.

Grow in the ground.
It’s all about the leg work finding the ideal spot.
Ideal spot has ground moisture all year. Good stealth and sunlight (rocking horse shit yes).

I still have allot to learn though.

ok

Careful on too wet a spot, in some wet years I had root rot in a heavy clay soil. I dug it out real good and put in peat and compost mix but left the hole in the clay without a drain ditch. It sat soggy for too long and looked dry on top. After that year I went indoors with a 1k. This will be my first try outdoors in 6 years, I'm diggin in the side of a south slope and leaving good drainage. I know most worry about being too dry but I never lost a crop to dry weather. Stunted yes but not a total loss.
The other factor I experienced was choosing between early sun or afternoon sun. I had two good fertile spots one with morning sun and one with sun after noon. The morning site had less sun hours 5-6 than the western site 7-8. The eastern slope with same soil and clone did very much better.

 

[-BRR-]

Careful on too wet a spot, in some wet years I had root rot in a heavy clay soil. I dug it out real good and put in peat and compost mix but left the hole in the clay without a drain ditch. It sat soggy for too long and looked dry on top. After that year I went indoors with a 1k. This will be my first try outdoors in 6 years, I'm diggin in the side of a south slope and leaving good drainage. I know most worry about being too dry but I never lost a crop to dry weather. Stunted yes but not a total loss.
The other factor I experienced was choosing between early sun or afternoon sun. I had two good fertile spots one with morning sun and one with sun after noon. The morning site had less sun hours 5-6 than the western site 7-8. The eastern slope with same soil and clone did very much better.

#1 Good point and totally agree that was one of my first rookie mistakes lol. The good thing about a slope is you can shape up your dirt or trench away around your plant/plot to either conserve or give up moisture to some extent anyway.

#2 More good advice.Morning sun’s good for drying off any over night dew as well. Eastern slopes are best.

 

[Dday391]

So I had an idea but I'm not sure it will work and was hoping for some wise input. Due to living arrangements setting up a veg and cloning op for this year is mostly out of the question. My question for the guerrillas is on the viability of outdoor cloning. My idea is to take 1 gallon jugs and cut the tops off and put on screen over the top like for windows to keep bugs out and let train in, also have holes on the sides for drainage about 1.5 to 2 inches from the bottom. I figure if I use the peat pots the 2 inches of water I leave after taking the clones will wick into the already moist soil and in about a week or so I can come back and bury the pots into the holes that will be already ready. I can go the route of cloning in and taking them out but I am curious if this is just me thinking too much when I'm high or not lol. Any advice on how I can make this work would surely be appreciated as well as any advice on how it will fail. Thanks in advance