Guerilla Underground Thread

[DuskrayTroubador]

Hey Tycho... I am definitely used to these guys...

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They practically land in every ones back yards all summer long. Hardcore flyovers in my neck of the woods and they come in packs!

...and the State of Kentucky is supposed to be "broke"... Flying grid patterns with multiple helicopters ain't cheap.

If they fly that heavy, how were you getting away with hundreds of plants?

Are your monsters this year going to be in single plant plots?

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Example of a pre season veg room... This was last year. This year the veg room has been extended and will be much larger.

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Logistically speaking, how in the hell do you manage to get hose fuckin'' things out into the bush?

I, for one, germinate seeds and then take those directly to their final holes. This is, I think, the only inconspicuous way of getting plants into the bush. Even with seedlings, you're then looking at a much bigger logistical hassle, whether you're taking one or two at a time in small boxes or if you've got a milk crate full. Plus the worry about keeping them intact on the way.

Unless you own/have access to hundreds of acres of land right out your back door and don't need to drive anywhere, I don't think having 3 month pre-vegged plants is easy to mange in terms of getting them to their final holes. I'd be sweating like a whore in church if I had to drive those around.

But if you start them early "indoors" and veg them for 3 months prior you will absolutely increase yields. You can manage the temps and they will be optimal and you will be sitting out 2 or 3 month old plants, 3 foot plus tall, already on the 10th to 15th node and at least 60 shoots. You will be placing this plant in the grow hole while the soil is warm and temperature and daylight hours optimal for growth.

Now I see what you are saying by "those of us who have to start them out in the bush"... Now even in this case my plants I start out from seed in mid March to late March outdoors still do better than anything I put out from seed in May or even June. I am the most random seed planter you will ever run across... I germ and pop seeds on the daily from February all the way up into First week of September and I have seen with my own personal experience that plants started outdoors from seed earlier in the year still do better than those planted outdoors later in the year.

I always take milk jugs and put them over top of my plants for the first 3 weeks if I start them outside early. Also, if the ground is amended correctly with the right amendments the grow hole will remain warmer than the surrounding soil due to the fertilizers and chemical reactions in the soil. You can also take black trash bags cut a small hole in the center and slide over your plant "through it" so the surrounding soil is covered by this bag. It will greatly increase soil temps, this is a tip I have been wanting to throw out there and keep forgetting about. Try it... You will be impressed.

The trash bag idea is interesting and I think it'll help a lot. Are you worried at all about it making the plots much more visible from the air, though?

Also, I'm trying cover crops out this year (just clover). I imagine the bag would prevent them from growing, but at some point I'd pull it anyway and could plant the cover crops then (though I'm not sure how long it takes them to come about).

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Logistically speaking, how in the hell do you manage to get hose fuckin'' things out into the bush?

I, for one, germinate seeds and then take those directly to their final holes. This is, I think, the only inconspicuous way of getting plants into the bush. Even with seedlings, you're then looking at a much bigger logistical hassle, whether you're taking one or two at a time in small boxes or if you've got a milk crate full. Plus the worry about keeping them intact on the way.

Unless you own/have access to hundreds of acres of land right out your back door and don't need to drive anywhere, I don't think having 3 month pre-vegged plants is easy to mange in terms of getting them to their final holes. I'd be sweating like a whore in church if I had to drive those around.



The trash bag idea is interesting and I think it'll help a lot. Are you worried at all about it making the plots much more visible from the air, though?

Also, I'm trying cover crops out this year (just clover). I imagine the bag would prevent them from growing, but at some point I'd pull it anyway and could plant the cover crops then (though I'm not sure how long it takes them to come about).

Instead of garbage bags, I use black landscaping cloth, but only if I have good air cover. The kind you lay down under the soil to prevent weeds from growing in your flower garden. It breathes and allows water to drain while keeping in moisture.

Note that this is the cheap stuff, not a weaved Weed Barrier poly type (too shiny).
But even raw holes are easily see from the air. Your mention of clover is genius. Grows fast, helps with evaporation and would be a great ground cover. But more importantly, rabbits and rodents would eat it instead of your seedlings.

This year I'm starting my seeds may 1st. To assist in transportation, I wanted to start them in the same thing they use for tree seedlings.

I'd take them out of the pots and put them in a duffel bag/backpack when I was heading out.

But I'm making my own instead that will air prune the roots, and I don't have to take them out of a pot. Just plant the whole thing.

This is a 2x5" paper towel pot, but I might move up to a 3" caulking tube instead. Don't know yet.
(DIY paper towel pots: https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=75784)

I'm considering using these for my bulk grows (1-200+ plants). I'd take the whole block of 12 seedlings out of the flat to transport, rip the plants apart onsite and and plant.


I'm using the paper towel pots for my early crop (NL Autoflowers) because they're prone to stress and will stunt/hermie if you mess with them too much.

 

[MountainBudz]

...and the State of Kentucky is supposed to be "broke"... Flying grid patterns with multiple helicopters ain't cheap.

If they fly that heavy, how were you getting away with hundreds of plants?

Are your monsters this year going to be in single plant plots?

We have this operation around here called HIDTA... Here is a little about the agency and what they do. Notice on the bottom, also all of the participating agencies. Let me tell you, being a true commercial guerilla grower here in Ky is hard hard business. Definitely not for the weak of heart!

Appalachia HIDTA

Mission Statement: The overall mission of the Appalachia HIDTA is to measurably reduce the impact of regional marijuana production, trafficking, and distribution in the Appalachia region and other parts of the United States through multi-agency collocated and co-mingled initiatives that attack, disrupt, and dismantle the drug trafficking and money laundering organizations operating within the Appalachia HIDTA area.

General Information:
Year of Designation: 1998
Geographic Area of Responsibility:
Kentucky: Adair, Bell, Breathitt, Clay, Clinton, Cumberland, Floyd, Harlan, Jackson, Knott, Knox, Laurel, Lee, Leslie, McCreary, Magoffin, Marion, Monroe, Owsley, Perry, Pike, Pulaski, Rockcastle, Taylor, Wayne, and Whitley counties
Tennessee: Bledsoe, Campbell, Claiborne, Clay, Cocke, Cumberland, Fentress, Franklin, Grainger, Greene, Grundy, Hamblin, Hancock, Hawkins, Jackson, Jefferson, Macon, Marion, Overton, Pickett, Putnam, Rhea, Scott, Sequatchie, Sevier, Unicoi, Van Buren, and White counties
West Virginia: Boone, Braxton, Cabell, Gilmer, Lewis, Lincoln, Logan, Mason, McDowell, Mingo, and Wayne counties

Threat Abstract:

The Appalachia HIDTA was designated in 1998. It is comprised of sixty-five counties located within the states of Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia. The designated region is located within easy reach of several large major population areas of the United States. At the same time, the area consists of predominately rural and rugged terrain with soil, temperature, and other climate conditions ideally suited for marijuana production. Demographic conditions of the Appalachia HIDTA, including relatively high unemployment and low median family income, create an environment where illegal activities and corruption can flourish.

According to eradication statistics, marijuana is the number one cash crop in the three states which comprise the Appalachia HIDTA. Kentucky's eradicated marijuana crop for 1999 yielded plants valued at $787,088,000. That amount exceeded the number one legitimate cash crop, tobacco, by nearly $9,000,000. Tennessee's eradicated marijuana crop for 1999 yielded plants valued at $628,226,000 which surpassed all other legitimate cash crops individually with the closest being tobacco at $217,429,000. West Virginia's eradicated marijuana crop for 1999 yielded plants valued at $70,728,000. The total value of all other legitimate cash crops grown in West Virginia combined ($57,290,450) does not reach the cash value for eradicated marijuana. A total of 1.6 million cultivated marijuana plants were eradicated. Within the past year, a number of drug trafficking organizations have been identified as operating within the Appalachia HIDTA. The makeup of drug trafficking organizations within the Appalachia HIDTA generally consist of a loose confederation of family units and other associates cooperating in marijuana cultivation and information sharing regarding new growing techniques and law enforcement activity.

Strategy Abstract:

An Executive Committee comprised of eight federal and eight local/state law enforcement leaders from the three Appalachia HIDTA states allow a regional focus and synchronization of efforts to reduce the cultivation and distribution of marijuana within Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia. The manpower strength of the Appalachia HIDTA includes 105 full-time, and 595 part-time personnel utilized during intense concentrated enforcement periods. All signatories of the Appalachia HIDTA Memorandum of Understanding agree to mutual cooperation, sharing resources and intelligence information, utilization of specialized equipment, and regionalized training of personnel.

Appalachia HIDTA initiatives that implement the strategy include the three enforcement initiatives entitled Eradication, Investigation, and Interdiction. Eradication utilizes a regionally focused effort with heavy participation by the National Guard and state enforcement agencies, as well as the DEA. Investigation/Money Laundering which, because of the rural nature of the region, relies heavily on existing intelligence sources from State Police outposts, local agencies, and existing drug task forces. Interdiction focuses on the transportation of marijuana into and out of the Appalachia HIDTA region by private and commercial means.

In addition to the enforcement initiatives, the Appalachia HIDTA also includes Prosecution, Intelligence, Demand Reduction, Administration, and Evaluation Initiatives. Prosecution includes fulltime state and local prosecutors to encompass the full range of culpability of violators. Intelligence includes the Investigative Support Center (ICS) and the Marijuana Signature Lab. Demand Reduction utilizes their resources to attempt to change the attitudes towards acceptance of marijuana cultivation and use. Administration and Evaluation support all other initiatives.

Investigative Support Center:

The Appalachia HIDTA Investigative Support Center (ISC) is the centerpiece of the HIDTA as it provides the collocation and commingling of vital federal and state law enforcement personnel, and databases to assist all regional law enforcement agencies in counterdrug investigations, eradication, and interdiction. The ISC provides event and subject deconfliction services for officer safety and enhanced intelligence production; strategic intelligence for refined targeting and officer resource allocation; and in-service analytical intelligence training. The ISC provides HIDTA agencies and task forces with operational analytical support for ongoing "initiative driven" case activity through access to multiple criminal and commercial databases. The ISC provides narcotics intelligence analysis, prepares threat assessments, strategic reports, organizational studies, participates in informant/defendant debriefings, cultivates new Sources of Information (SOIs), performs post-seizure and search warrant analysis, supports large arrest operations (or "round-ups"), prepares and conducts briefings for visitors to the HIDTA, and assists in trial preparations. Additionally, the ISC conducts self-initiated intelligence analysis projects to generate leads for HIDTA investigative agencies. The Appalachia HIDTA Threat Assessment requires quarterly statistical reporting so that resources and direction can be reevaluated among the HIDTA initiatives.

Initiatives that were approved to implement the 2000 Appalachia HIDTA Strategy include:

Eradication—a multi-agency aerial and ground surveillance effort to identify and eliminate both outdoor and indoor-cultivated marijuana in attempts to combat marijuana distribution and consumption in the three states. Within the Eradication Initiative, agencies conduct operations to identify and eliminate both outdoor and indoor-cultivated marijuana by providing trained personnel and equipment to search for marijuana plots and grows and help eliminate the marijuana cultivation.
Investigation/Money Laundering—a collocated joint operation within each of the three-state areas focused on identifying and arresting persons involved in marijuana cultivation and trafficking and/or persons or businesses that are laundering drug trafficking proceeds. It conducts follow-up investigations resulting from significant seizures from interdiction efforts.
Interdiction—a multi-agency effort to investigate, identify, and immobilize inbound/ outbound major domestic/international marijuana smuggling and trafficking by focusing on highway interdiction, as well as commercial carrier and package interdiction. This includes three-state combined resource efforts on specific locations at specific times of the year. This focused interdiction effort is designed to compliment seasonal eradication efforts.
Prosecution—a joint federal and state prosecution effort to aggressively prosecute all marijuana and other illegal drug-related and money laundering investigations. It concentrates on working with the other initiatives to prosecute marijuana traffickers, cultivators and violent felons to target their equipment, property, and currency assets for seizure and forfeiture.
Intelligence—an operation consisting of the collocated HIDTA Investigative Support Center (ISC) and the Marijuana Signature Lab located in Frankfort, Kentucky. Together they provide strategic, operational, and tactical intelligence to law enforcement officers and agencies. The Signature Lab researches domestically produced marijuana in an effort to determine areas of origin and trace the trafficking routes within the United States. The ISC is charged with three primary functions, case support, event deconfliction, and threat assessment development.
Demand Reduction—an effort to reduce marijuana use among youth and alter the public consciousness that marijuana is a benign drug. It is connected through regional prevention centers in the three states and charged with stimulating the development of a comprehensive prevention program for all Appalachia HIDTA-designated counties. This is being accomplished by leveraging existing prevention resource programs and family service organizations and integrating multi-media advertisement campaigns.
Administration—a collocated group comprised of officials who are responsible for both administration of the HIDTA funds and support of the funded activities. It carries out the policies of the Executive Committee, ensures that initiatives are established and executed in an effective manner, provides program oversight, measures program effectiveness, and revises initiatives where needed. It assists in the development of new initiatives and reports periodically to ONDCP through the Executive Committee.
Evaluation—a unit located on the University of Louisville campus that serves as a resource center for the Appalachia HIDTA Executive Committee, Director, and Sub-committees for the Operations Initiative. It develops baseline data and measures the effectiveness of the HIDTA objectives as well as assists the Executive Committee and Director in data collection and analysis related to fiscal and budgetary issues.
Outcomes:

The Appalachia HIDTA has been instrumental in allowing the law enforcement agencies within the three states to focus and concentrate on the tremendous marijuana problem. Because of severe manpower and budgetary constraints, as well as the proliferation of other drugs into the area, and the growing cultural acceptance of marijuana, the participating agencies were previously unable to dedicate the necessary resources to adequately address the marijuana cultivation problem. This situation was exacerbated by a general judicial sentiment within some of the state judicial circuits that trafficking marijuana was a less serious offense than trafficking other substances. The Appalachia HIDTA has refocused the spotlight on marijuana as a serious threat to national health and well being, and allowed the participating agencies to dedicate manpower to address the threat.

Additionally, the HIDTA Executive Committee conceptualized and implemented the Marijuana Signature Lab that is the only effort of its kind in the United States. This lab mirrors DEA's efforts in their signature programs of cocaine, methamphetamine, and heroin in conducting its research to determine origin and track the flow of domestically cultivated marijuana to its marketplaces within the United States and even foreign lands.

Participating Agencies:

Federal: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Internal Revenue Service—Criminal Investigation, Tennessee Valley Authority Police, United States Forest Service, United States Marshal Service, United States National Park Service, United States Attorney's Office—Eastern District of Kentucky, United States Attorney's Office—Eastern District of Tennessee, United States Attorney's Office—Middle District of Tennessee, United States Attorney's Office—Northern District of West Virginia, United States Attorney's Office—Southern District of West Virginia, United States Attorney's Office—Western District of Kentucky, Department of Defense Joint Task Force Six
State: Kentucky State Police, Kentucky Vehicle Enforcement, Tennessee Alcohol Beverage Commission, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, Tennessee Department of Public Safety, West Virginia Public Service Commission, West Virginia State Police
Local: Association of Chiefs of Police (KY, TN, WV), Sheriffs Association (KY, TN, WV)
Other: Champions for a Drug Free Kentucky, Civil Air Patrol, Kentucky Army National Guard, Kentucky Commonwealth Attorney's Association, Laurel County Fiscal Court, Tennessee District Attorney's Conference, Tennessee National Guard, University of Louisville Justice Administration Department, West Virginia Air National Guard, West Virginia Army National Guard, West Virginia Prevention Resource Center, West Virginia Prosecuting Attorney's Institute
Information is provided by the Appalachia HIDTA.


Also, you had asked how I get away with it? Hmm lets just say that I take huge risks. I have different methods that I rotate each year. Back in the day farmers grew patches around here, but once those cannabis eradication efforts started to come into play and the helicopters started breaking things up, most people have resorted to single plants, scattered among a large selected area. There is no easy to grow outdoors here. It really does take lots of dedication and bravery. I can't tell you how many times I had been hiding, beneath the belly of a UH60 black hawk, feeling then force of the wind beat me in the back, praying to God that I wasn't seen or caught. I have also been in a pretty large crop area where they had flew over and I had about 20 or so large plants in mid July spreaded and scattered out among about a 3 acre area. They circled the area for a good solid 2 minutes or 3 and then flew away. I was bedded in the brush right in the center of it. The way the hills and hollars are laid out around here, you never hardly hear them coming, especially if its a windy or rainy day and next thing you know BAM they are within a couple thousand feet of you. And yes, I have seen them flying in some pretty intense storms as well.

I Just have my program and routine pinned down. I have everything, the entire operation organized and scheduled. The land close to me, I can walk bright out my back door carrying those vegged plants in 20 gallon containers to the designated area, no problem. I will usually do my planting in the night hours. Don't think I have not put plants that size in a car or SUV either and laid them down in the back seat/hatch and took them one or a couple at a time to where they are to be planted.

But usually, the plants I have to plant that are away from my area ( having to drive), those are usually no more than a month old. I keep them in small containers, keep them as compatible as possible for transportation purposes. Its kind of really hard to explain my routine. To simplify, those huge plants I veg are planted within 2 to 3000 acres from my home. We have tons of land to work with, vacant at that. Then we have plants around 6 inches to a foot tall, these are the ones we usually transport via vehicles. We drive all around the county and surrounding counties and mark places (by memory) to sit out just one or two big bushes. Then later, we go to that spot and plant. Basically driving the entire county and sitting them out one by one scattered throughout the whole county and surrounding counties as well. Lots are even grown on road ways, corn and soybean fields, woodlines, over the sides of the guardrails on the mountains, backs of small businesses and even in peoples very own back yards... We put them literally EVERYWHERE.

Those big plants like pictured, I can handle moving them a very long ways away without any vehicle, atv or any form of transportation for that matter. I wait till they are almost dried out and then I bear hug that bitch and I start off hiking. One by one, they are carried to their final destinations. Some are transported in vehicles though to various locations. However, I have time on My hands. This is my career, not my hobby or a side thing. This is absolutely what I solely do for a living. Starting this spring, I wake up early morning and i grow weed till evening, even into the night at times. All the way till November, this is what I'm doing for a living, everyday. I have been doing this for 17 years, so you can imagine I have seen it all, been through it all, tried it all and dealt with it all. 17 years really is a long time...




On another note, yes the trash bag is a great idea and it works. Much cheaper than landscaping material as well and honestly the "less" breathable the material the better. It holds more heat in beneath it the less it can expel it.

As far as flyovers go, remember we are talking about using the bag for early planting, to keep the ground and root zone warm during the colder months. Not for the entire season but just a very short time till then ground warms up. Here, we don't start getting flyovers till around the first week of June, but it starts heavily in July. You will have these bags gone by early may or mid may. You can cover the bag once laid over and through the plant with leaves, grass, sticks, etc and it will still do the expected job.


Here is another couple of links about the way things are done in Ky..

https://youtu.be/5qLL-Ov0vBI

https://youtu.be/E2JNTRzcaBQ

https://youtu.be/um62iJT_Cyo

 

[MountainBudz]

Logistically speaking, how in the hell do you manage to get hose fuckin'' things out into the bush?

I, for one, germinate seeds and then take those directly to their final holes. This is, I think, the only inconspicuous way of getting plants into the bush. Even with seedlings, you're then looking at a much bigger logistical hassle, whether you're taking one or two at a time in small boxes or if you've got a milk crate full. Plus the worry about keeping them intact on the way.

Unless you own/have access to hundreds of acres of land right out your back door and don't need to drive anywhere, I don't think having 3 month pre-vegged plants is easy to mange in terms of getting them to their final holes. I'd be sweating like a whore in church if I had to drive those around.



The trash bag idea is interesting and I think it'll help a lot. Are you worried at all about it making the plots much more visible from the air, though?

Also, I'm trying cover crops out this year (just clover). I imagine the bag would prevent them from growing, but at some point I'd pull it anyway and could plant the cover crops then (though I'm not sure how long it takes them to come about).

Usually, IF I use the trash bags to retain heat within the ground, as soon as I pull the bag up I throw down some grass seed and its up and fully covered within 2 weeks. But then again, you wanna match the "chosen" ground cover to match the color and surrounding environment that your plant resides in. Wethere it be grass of a dark green color, light green color, even leaves instead, or branches from trees or rocks. Always match the colors and textures to the surrounding locations environment.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I read somewhere that Columbians would ring the trunk of the plants when they were ready to harvest. The plant would dry standing and the buds would turn Gold. Hence the columbian gold.

Has anyone ever tried ringing a plant this way?

 

[therevverend]

I've had mold do the same thing so I have a bit of experience with the technique. Plant is a few weeks away from finishing. Grey mold rings the stem and kills the plant above the ring.
The plant immediately puts all it's energy into finishing. The plant above the ring will finish ahead of the rest of the plant. Best thing to do is strip off all the large fan leaves. It can't get water through the stem, the only water it gets is from the air in the morning. Fan leaves evaporate more moisture then they take in.
The plant can't uptake nutrients so no point in fertilizing. The yield and quality aren't as good. I'd save the technique for plants that won't finish in time. If she has fully formed flowers, all white hairs and a good amount of crystal development. That'd be the time to ring it. It'll finish a week or two faster.
It'll be a bit prone to mold so I'd keep an eye for that. It's a balancing act between getting enough moisture from the air to finish flowering but not too much. There's a reason it's a legendary type technique that not many growers have used. You're killing your plants and sacrificing a lot. At the right place and time you could save your harvest if you knew bad weather was coming or you needed your plants out of there fast. Whatever point you ring it the plant will finish in a week or two.

 

[MountainBudz]

Just popped these...

Just popped these...

Three days ago. They are now officially breaking the soil line. Getting my early start in for the year, there is also 1969 Skunk #18 from Nature Farms not included in the photo. I popped 10 of those. Then I also officially popped 20 of the Kentucky Roadkill Skunk that I have nammed "Hillbilly Roadkill". Keep an eye out this year for beans, they will be a limited release (in the near future). I am excited to run the NF Sk#18 a long with the Hillbilly Roadkill, just to compare the two ad word is the Ky roadkill had also originated from the Uncle Fester line. All I do know for fact is that the Hillbilly Roadkill aka Ky Roadkill Skunk has been around my home town of Kentucky for over 35 years... Supposed to have first come into the Bluegrass somewhere around 1974.

I have lots more seeds to be popped soon as well, some of these early started plants will become donors for tryouts this year in becoming official mothers. Gonna be a great 2018!

That Sk#18 x Hindu Kush Paki cross is going to be fire too, I can feel it! Afghanis do great here in Ky!

 

[MountainBudz]

Right now most of my focus is on this... This is what last years guerilla grow did for me, my family and my clients. This is one of very many great things all of my hard work and sweat paid for last season! This way of life is my only way of life, I live it, I breath it, I love it, I have become it! The outlaw that loves what he does and the people he heals and saves! You folks have to realize that we as guerilla growers have to sacrifice the fear, to able ourselves of succeeding our dreams and the freewill to love our career, our job, our herb, our family, our life! You absolutely have to break that fear into pieces, and can't let not one piece of that wall built by fear, to stay in place and hold you back from suceeding in such a shit economy and never bow down to be a slave to the system. If you want to be free, BEAT the system, don't fear the unknown and do what you love!

Thanks to last season, I can now bring the mountains inside and do what I love to do. Grow marijuana smoke marijuana and "share" marijuana ... I have had 4x4 tents for years and thank God I have finally got rid of those things and earned myself a dream. I now have an underground grow op, built inside and within an underground bunker. I have 21 selected and elite clones, 6 mother plants, 4,400 watts of HPS flower power (1000s dialed in to super lumens), environemnt dialed in to my needs and adjustable to my preference and this is ALL set up perpetual. As I also now have a 9x14x7 veg room as well. Sure lots of guys put there are putting me to shame with their huge commercial grows and investments into over sized warehouses and such... But this right here means more to me than that. This is hard earned returns, in which I have full control and can grow top quality high yielding herbs right in my secret underground op. I choose to keep my mouth shut and not share my work with anyone outside of my wife and dog. It will always be that way... I will make enough to get me by every year, more than a nurse practitioner would bring home yearly just from my perpetual setup. Does not include my outdoor runs... It gets me by and it keeps me and my family safe and secure by paying the bills, keeping us warm, feeding our mouths, helping out those who need help and assists in letting us be able to have more free time with each other because life is short and we don't deserve to be slaves unless we slave to the choice of our love!

Day 22 of 12/12

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[MountainBudz]

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Found this in a neighboring farmer's back field. lol.

Credits to Google Earth timeline feature.

 

[Rodehazrd]

Found this in a neighboring farmer's back field. lol.

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Credits to Google Earth timeline feature.

Looks like a 4H project. Those choppers missed that? I know a guy puts a plant in his corn about every 50 yards for years. his neighbor planted like yours, the neighbor got busted he had no issue. They flew right over him to get there. It may be that you would also be missed as they spot his low hanging fruit. Like planting something for the bugs away from your crop. I have read that cannabis has a distinct uv signature. You know anything about that? long ago landsat could tell the health of corn crops from space. I don't know what resolution they have but I bet the field you show here lit up like a christmas tree

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Looks like a 4H project. Those choppers missed that? I know a guy puts a plant in his corn about every 50 yards for years. his neighbor planted like yours, the neighbor got busted he had no issue. They flew right over him to get there. It may be that you would also be missed as they spot his low hanging fruit. Like planting something for the bugs away from your crop. I have read that cannabis has a distinct uv signature. You know anything about that? long ago landsat could tell the health of corn crops from space. I don't know what resolution they have but I bet the field you show here lit up like a christmas tree

A bit. I've researched it enough to know not to plant in a corn field. Google Spectral Discrimination and Light Reflectance of crops. From what I've found, the only crop that has the same reflectance is Soy Bean. So I always have a dozen or two bordering them, southside, with a good backstop (trees or big bushes). Farmers in this area plant corn, soy, and sometimes wheat or oats. But it's hard to find a field with a drainage ditch (for water) on top of that.

But I wouldn't totally rule out a corn field. Sometimes the farmer misses a row or spots, usually around an obstacle or in a corner, and sometimes it's just the seeder that needs cleaning after a day's planting. That would lend itself perfectly to a partial fill in.

In that case, I'd stick Autoflowers in there so you can get out before the corn starts turning yellow or is harvested.

In any case, make sure you don't plant until AFTER the spray.
1. Farmer plants.
2. When crops are 6-12 high, they spray for weeds.
3. Now's the time to plant your seedlings.

A buddy lost 100 plants because he jumped the gun a couple years ago.

Above all, don't do like the following idiots.

 

[Easy7]

Corn is harvested to early for my liking. Also the fields are polluted. Never know when they will harvest or it all being for silage. They start early and harvest in patches. They know the weed game. I'm sure every farmer finds some ganja and often.

Lot's of kids get away with a little in the corn. Greedy grows get caught. I can find openings in forests barely even seen in burds eye view. Helos fly quick and don't get long exposure at the angle they are.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Corn is harvested to early for my liking. Also the fields are polluted. Never know when they will harvest or it all being for silage. They start early and harvest in patches. They know the weed game. I'm sure every farmer finds some ganja and often.

Lot's of kids get away with a little in the corn. Greedy grows get caught. I can find openings in forests barely even seen in burds eye view. Helos fly quick and don't get long exposure at the angle they are.

Ya. Knowing if it's a cash crop or silage is a crapshoot. I have family who still farm, and they cut it down every year. The kids are ok with it, and will take some colas before they mow it down, but the fathers tend to be anti-weed and cut everything. lol

I have a spot for 50 that you can only see if you're directly above it, but choppers or planes can't see directly below. I can't even see it in Google Earth and there's a natural spring there too.

In any case, I've yet to see one chopper in 7 years here. They just use planes and are looking for big blatant grows. So they're not interested in 5 plants that will only piss off a Judge for wasting the court's time, who will cut you free with a $100 fine. At most.

Ever see what it's like when a Judge gets pissed at the cops? It ain't pretty. lol.

 

[Rodehazrd]

I agree corn gets a lot of crap put on it but so does soy I had bees next to a field planted in soy. The day they planted I lost half the bees from something associated with the planting. The rest were lost when it bloomed. Had them there for two years no issue when they cut hay but the soy took them out. If the flowers kill bees I don't want to smoke one.

 

[Dday391]

Probably gmo crops that are bred to self pollinate. I've heard they can lead to colony collapse disorder. I'm no expert but this is pretty well observed.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Probably gmo crops that are bred to self pollinate. I've heard they can lead to colony collapse disorder. I'm no expert but this is pretty well observed.

Corn IS self pollinating. Naturally. If you want to grow sweet corn in your yard/garden, you have to plant at least four rows in a block or circle so the plants can all get pollinated and produce kernels.

Colony collapse can happen when only one variety is available. Years ago the global commercial Banana crop was wiped out because they only grew one variety; Gros Michel. Growers are at it again growing only the Cavendish strain, which is already extinct in the south pacific from a mutated virus that wiped them out the last time. And it's spreading. Another 10 years and we won't have them either.

Corn has many commercial strains so it's all good there (mostly).

BTW, GMO=Good. Ignorance=Bad.

 

[Rodehazrd]

I mostly thought it was a neoniconoid inoculated seed batch. I would not think GMO would be poison just modified

 

[hamstring]

Found this in a neighboring farmer's back field. lol.

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Credits to Google Earth timeline feature.

Get the hell out my patch you damn punks "shakes fist".

I love me some google earth. Stay out of the corn fields and look for the lowlands near the fields. Put google earth in March when everything is brown . Its easier to find the spots. You can advance the time to see what it looks like in July.