Guerilla Underground Thread

[DuskrayTroubador]

All the kelp is gone? lol

California at it again... Every time those West Jersey Shore clowns hear of a good thing they buy it all up and ruin it for everyone else.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

All the kelp is gone? lol

California at it again... Every time those West Jersey Shore clowns hear of a good thing they buy it all up and ruin it for everyone else.

It's harvested from the North Atlantic. The Canadian Government issued a moratorium, but unless other governments follow suit, it won't slow down.

I've done some research. Ascophyllum Nodosum will be all but extinct if they keep grabbing it the way they are. Most of it is in international waters so I don't see how they'll stop the harvest. It wouldn't take long to have it recover. A halt for a few years should bring it back. But if there's no recovery time... I figure once they can't harvest enough to make it economically viable, they'll just stop taking it on their own. Then it'll recover.

You can still find it in stores though. But I bought a 50lb bag of seaweed kelp instead from an organic farm supplier in my area. It's typically used as a livestock feed additive and way more expensive. But it should give my plants a nice boost and I won't have to buy it for years.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

I was looking at the price of heating pads and was blown away. $100? f*ck that. So I jumped on Kijiji and Craigslist and scored two of these for germination/seedlings. Total cost? $30.

Cover with cheap paneling and a plastic sheet, and it's good to go.

 

[marmarb]

Digging out 25 gal hole is gonna be a puta. Whats a average size hole producing say 10 gallons out doors.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Any of you guys have experience drying outdoors?

I've been thinking that transporting fresh harvest is both a very delicate and risky endeavor. I've done it before with food-grade 5 gallon buckets filled with buds and ice packs, but that seems overly sketchy.

What I'm thinking about doing instead is stringing buds up in the trees to pre-dry for a few days. Then come back and pack them up in either big jars or turkey bags and haul them out in my pack. I figure that's the least sketchy way, and I'll be able to make less tricks with the buds pre-dryed.

It also helps with smell concerns, both in terms of fresh, wet bud and the clothes worn while chopping aren't part of the equation.

What do you guys think?

 

[marmarb]

That should work if you place them in newspapers coffins strung in the trees.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

That should work if you place them in newspapers coffins strung in the trees.

I think I'd be more worried about that because it'd be likely, I think, to deprive them of air circulation.

 

[Easy7]

Outdoor drying can be done. People dry under tarps. It's risky if someone finds it, so is growing. But you have less weight (water weight) and you can transports under limits or legal classifications. Pretty small here, 100g is a ticket, 200 is 30 days, under a kilo is 18 months, maybe six months or probation, 1kg to 5kg is a big deal.

Denial of intelligence to the enemy is a smart move. Fact is if you get caught driving our whatever with more than a little, the get a warrant for the house. You could bury dried flowers in a bucket. Sealed in bags, portable mylar sealer works. Leave the lid of bucket just above ground.

No evidence no trial

 

[hamstring]

I have done this many times but I always put a tarp up incase weather changes. Take your time with the tarp. You need to have some shrubs and trees around to help string it up.The tarp needs to strung up so its almost 100% horizontal . You don't want it to look like a tent it holds in the humidity and holds back air flow.

Dont worry about someone finding it. Remember you are normally picking a spot no where near your grow plot and will be hidden by the natural vegetation. Once I get it all hung up if I back up 10 yards its almost invisible.

As you mentioned this is just to get rid of some of the water weight and smell not to dry. Should work fine depending on weather. Bring them back to a large cooler in your car. That will hold back the smell.

 

[Easy7]

Camo tarps are cheap to a tad pricey. I've grown in parks as there are not many areas here. Next to roads and all that.

Seriously check amazon for 1 gallon mylar bags that can be sealed. I've road in a taxi from a park with a small harvest. Dude asked me if I was growing. Almost gave him a bud. Had a taxi driver high as a kite once show me his diluided for his ball cancer once.

Won't fool a k9 but it helps to not smell like a skunk driving home. Or biking home or whatever you do.

 

[Dday391]

I'm probably going this route as well. I'm probably going to try some with a tarp some without. Mostly just for ghetto science hahaha. I remember seeing in the m.o.g thread he says as long as there is no mold when you cut there won't be mold after a few days. I haven't personally tried it but this year I'm going to post my results later this year fingers crossed

 

[iTarzan]

Julian in his thread talked about outdoor drying. I have done it a few times but I did it to give it a extra week finishing time. It comes in handy when the plants in the corn need another week but you know the combine is coming any day.

Plants don't die right away like animals do. When you harvest a plant whole and hang it upside down from a tree it dies slowly over a few days to a week. The trichs continue to develop.

You hang them up under trees next to the edges of fields. You want some air and light but not direct light. Under pine trees is good because they protect from rain but allow wind in from the sides. I just hung the plants upside down with string and left them for 10 days and they were a bit frostier and more cloudy trichs. They also were almost dry to. It isn't good to do if it is rainy season. An isolated rain here and there won't matter.

I like trimming the plant at the site and just bring back rough trimmed colas and buds. I like transporting the buds during the day with lots of normal traffic around while I drive. Safety in numbers. At night you are a jitterbug lure on the pond and the cops are a big bass looking for something to eat.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

Outdoor drying can be done. People dry under tarps. It's risky if someone finds it, so is growing. But you have less weight (water weight) and you can transports under limits or legal classifications. Pretty small here, 100g is a ticket, 200 is 30 days, under a kilo is 18 months, maybe six months or probation, 1kg to 5kg is a big deal.

Denial of intelligence to the enemy is a smart move. Fact is if you get caught driving our whatever with more than a little, the get a warrant for the house. You could bury dried flowers in a bucket. Sealed in bags, portable mylar sealer works. Leave the lid of bucket just above ground.

No evidence no trial

You talkin' about drying the harvest in the field and storing it there? That strikes me as ballsy in a way. That'd be quite a bit of going back and forth for one, but it also extends your trips into the woods into hunting season, which is riskier.

I have done this many times but I always put a tarp up incase weather changes. Take your time with the tarp. You need to have some shrubs and trees around to help string it up.The tarp needs to strung up so its almost 100% horizontal . You don't want it to look like a tent it holds in the humidity and holds back air flow.

Dont worry about someone finding it. Remember you are normally picking a spot no where near your grow plot and will be hidden by the natural vegetation. Once I get it all hung up if I back up 10 yards its almost invisible.

As you mentioned this is just to get rid of some of the water weight and smell not to dry. Should work fine depending on weather. Bring them back to a large cooler in your car. That will hold back the smell.

So the tarp is just to protect from rain? I guess rain is more of a concern with drying because you're not just worried about mold, but also the buds actually drying lol. Tarps could get expensive as I have multiple sites, but maybe something necessary.

My only worry about having a cooler in the car is the time of year. If stopped, a cop might inquire about the cooler with hunting violations in mind. I always thought it might not be a good thing to have for just that reason.

Julian in his thread talked about outdoor drying. I have done it a few times but I did it to give it a extra week finishing time. It comes in handy when the plants in the corn need another week but you know the combine is coming any day.

Plants don't die right away like animals do. When you harvest a plant whole and hang it upside down from a tree it dies slowly over a few days to a week. The trichs continue to develop.

You hang them up under trees next to the edges of fields. You want some air and light but not direct light. Under pine trees is good because they protect from rain but allow wind in from the sides. I just hung the plants upside down with string and left them for 10 days and they were a bit frostier and more cloudy trichs. They also were almost dry to. It isn't good to do if it is rainy season. An isolated rain here and there won't matter.

I like trimming the plant at the site and just bring back rough trimmed colas and buds. I like transporting the buds during the day with lots of normal traffic around while I drive. Safety in numbers. At night you are a jitterbug lure on the pond and the cops are a big bass looking for something to eat.

Did the weed dried like that end up dank?

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Any of you guys have experience drying outdoors?
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Ever wonder how Acapulco Gold got its name? When the bud was ripe, instead of pulling the plant, the farmers would ring the stalk/trunk, killing it while it was standing, and the buds would turn gold. Then they'd harvest. So if you ring the main stalk, it should kill it and start drying while it's standing. Putting up a tarp freaks me out for visibility from above. If it had good fall camo stuff, then maybe.

Another thing to look at is humidity at that time of year. Here, it's 50-75% until end of August. So if I harvested at that time, I could do it. But from September 1st forward, mother nature turns into a **** and dumps 100% RH until after christmas. What a bitch.

Google historical relative humidity <city> to see what it's like at that time of year.

 

[iTarzan]

It came out as good as I expected for each strain. The Chem d and Prophet came out excellent. Taskenti looked great, smelled great but was weak smoke. The outcome was determined by genetics.

I would only do it if it was totally needed. I guess if you are super paranoid about the weight you could do it. Otherwise trim as much as you can, put it in some garbage bags in the trunk and get straight home. Even if you put it in a cooler it is going to smell. The bottom line is you can't get stopped. So it doesn't matter because a good haul of outdoor is going to be over the limit dry or wet.

 

[iTarzan]

Acapulco Gold wasn't actually gold colored. Columbian Gold was gold or sawdust colored. That is the one they supposedly ringed.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Got ya.

 

[Rodehazrd]

sewer pipes can have a screw on end. I kept them on top my service truck for carrying plastic conduits. You can put two five foot trimmed bush in a 10 inch pipe if you wrap it with string first. Much more if you cut out the main stem. Throw them up next to a ladder and no one notices, My friend keeps one in the ground for half gallon jars tied with a string just has to hide the little cap and it looks like the cleanout for the septic tank if uncovered.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Got my super soil cooking, pots ready, spots surveyed and chosen, planting tools ready, planting strategy laid out, and my seeds just lazing around ready for their bath in a 300mT electromagnetic field. Huh?

Last november I was doing some reading and research on the biology of seed germination when I stumbled on a scientific paper on Seed Dormancy. It was a hard read understanding what it said, but the more I re-read it, the more I understood it. I've been around farming most of my life and had never heard anything about exposing seeds to electromagnetic fields, let alone research on it. Then I found another paper, and another. There's a lot of research on it.

From this paper: (https://www.intechopen.com/books/advances-in-seed-biology/seed-dormancy)

"In both genotypes (lentil and grass pea), high biomass formation above ground was observed after magnetic field treatments, where the highest values were recorded, compared with the control where no magnetic field was applied (Figure 1). Leaf numbers were higher for the magnetic field treatment compared with the control, and it is the main reason for higher photosynthetic activity that achieves a higher yield. Higher biomass accumulation above ground gives a higher food supply for livestock. In our case, the plant fresh weight was 0.798 g when treated with a magnetic field strength of 300 mT for 72 h, while it was only 0.556 g in the control sample at the end of the study (Table 2). This means more than a 50% increase in fresh weight and also more than a 50% increase in food supply for livestock."

Stunning!
In a nutshell, exposing seeds to a 300mT electromagnetic field for 72 hours increases not only germination, but growth and yield as well.

So ya, I have my seeds ready to sit between two huge magnets 72 hours before they get popped. lol

 

[Easy7]

Like I've said, grown in parks. Lot's of places off the trail to hide a camp or whatever. There are areas of woods that there is no hunting. Not hard to find spots that is so thick with vegetation such as a prickly patch. Big difference between someone finding a stash in the woods, and being caught in your house. Have all sorts of hiding places. Unless they want to dig randomly, it's hard to find.