Dr. Green Thumb
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thanks for the info U4EA, i really do appreciate it bro, reps+
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Growroom Electricity and Wiring
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thanks for the info U4EA, i really do appreciate it bro, reps+
Dr GT..there has to be more to it than that..Code requires some specific circuits..
if you have a dryer connection..then there should be a dedicated 20A 120V laundry circuit near by(for the washer)..
the dryer would have it's own dedicated 240V 2 pole breaker..
Kitchen Small appliance circuits..Electric Range/Oven..if electric..bathroom circuit..etc
now a lot of general outlets might be on one 15A circuit..maybe also even a few lights..they do that a lot in cheaper builds..like mine..
if you needed to add recepticals..
15A circuit = 14 AWG wire
20A circuit = 12 AWG
there are exceptions and derating rules and over-rating conditions..but with romex or THHN this is pretty std.
you don't wanna load a circuit beyond 80%
and loads that stay on over 3 hrs like lights..are continuous loads..the power in Watts or VA is multiplied by 125%(the ballast power rating not the lamp)
1000W on the ballast would be considered 1250W
1250W / 120V = 10.4 Amps
1250W / 240V = 5.2 Amps (twice the voltage..half the current)
power doesn't change..maybe a little because of efficiency rating..but basically current times voltage is power
15A breaker @ 80% = 12A max load
20A breaker @ 80% = 16A max load
12A x 120V = 1440W or VA
16A x 120V = 1920W or VA
hope this helps some..
if you have a dryer connection..then there should be a dedicated 20A 120V laundry circuit near by(for the washer)..
the dryer would have it's own dedicated 240V 2 pole breaker..
Kitchen Small appliance circuits..Electric Range/Oven..if electric..bathroom circuit..etc
now a lot of general outlets might be on one 15A circuit..maybe also even a few lights..they do that a lot in cheaper builds..like mine..
if you needed to add recepticals..
15A circuit = 14 AWG wire
20A circuit = 12 AWG
there are exceptions and derating rules and over-rating conditions..but with romex or THHN this is pretty std.
you don't wanna load a circuit beyond 80%
and loads that stay on over 3 hrs like lights..are continuous loads..the power in Watts or VA is multiplied by 125%(the ballast power rating not the lamp)
1000W on the ballast would be considered 1250W
1250W / 120V = 10.4 Amps
1250W / 240V = 5.2 Amps (twice the voltage..half the current)
power doesn't change..maybe a little because of efficiency rating..but basically current times voltage is power
15A breaker @ 80% = 12A max load
20A breaker @ 80% = 16A max load
12A x 120V = 1440W or VA
16A x 120V = 1920W or VA
hope this helps some..
I had opened a thread but I guess I confused my details and haven't gotten too many specific responses...
I live in the US, on the traditional 120v system in a residential home.
I want to take a room and convert it to a grow room, with 2 x 1000w ballasts, and 1 x 400w ballast.
I need some information here to know exactly what upgrades need done, and what equipment I need..
1.) I am seeing you need to multiply the current x 125% for continuous loads, so for a 1000w ballast that would be 1250w, like the above poster mentioned. 2 would total 2500w. factor in a 400w ballast + air conditioner and fans, and at any given time i might need close to 4kw.
2.) I know basics about electricity, but nothing too advanced. The breaker in the basement shows that the room I want to grow on is on a 30amp circuit.
3.) What upgrades need done to ensure that I can safely run 4kw in the room? This is my most important question. I thought I HAD to go 240v to run that much power. I'm willing to pay an electrician to do the necessary upgrades, whatever they may be. I just don't want electrical fires! Lol.
I live in the US, on the traditional 120v system in a residential home.
I want to take a room and convert it to a grow room, with 2 x 1000w ballasts, and 1 x 400w ballast.
I need some information here to know exactly what upgrades need done, and what equipment I need..
1.) I am seeing you need to multiply the current x 125% for continuous loads, so for a 1000w ballast that would be 1250w, like the above poster mentioned. 2 would total 2500w. factor in a 400w ballast + air conditioner and fans, and at any given time i might need close to 4kw.
2.) I know basics about electricity, but nothing too advanced. The breaker in the basement shows that the room I want to grow on is on a 30amp circuit.
3.) What upgrades need done to ensure that I can safely run 4kw in the room? This is my most important question. I thought I HAD to go 240v to run that much power. I'm willing to pay an electrician to do the necessary upgrades, whatever they may be. I just don't want electrical fires! Lol.
ITS TIME TO WIRE UP A SUB PANEL!
so here's my situation, shop space (with 3phase power) and i need to wire up a panel, run roughly 50-60 ft of wire back to the main. i'd like to have both 220 and 120 on the panel, which needs to support 4k+ constantly.
i have electronics experience, but i figured i'd get some advice on this...
point me in right direction?
so here's my situation, shop space (with 3phase power) and i need to wire up a panel, run roughly 50-60 ft of wire back to the main. i'd like to have both 220 and 120 on the panel, which needs to support 4k+ constantly.
i have electronics experience, but i figured i'd get some advice on this...
point me in right direction?
I have a question about building a flip flop.
I want to make a 2 ballast, 4 light flip flop. The ballast are 240v.
Do I need to use the nema 6-20R 240v receptacles and plugs for the flip flop, or are the standard 120v kind fine?
What I had assumed is whether the ballast was 240v or 120v the output was the same, so the standard plugs would work on the flip flop, is that right?
Thanks in advance.
I want to make a 2 ballast, 4 light flip flop. The ballast are 240v.
Do I need to use the nema 6-20R 240v receptacles and plugs for the flip flop, or are the standard 120v kind fine?
What I had assumed is whether the ballast was 240v or 120v the output was the same, so the standard plugs would work on the flip flop, is that right?
Thanks in advance.
I live in the US, on the traditional 120v system in a residential home. i made a flower room and want to run
4 x 1000w hps to run continuously.
in the veg room going with 2 x 1000w mh ballasts continously
did some electrical upgrades had a electrician set up a dedicated 50 amp breaker going to a sub panel
with 6 (20 amp) breakers via a 12/2
I need some information here to know exactly if the upgrades that were done, meet or exceed
what i need to do and what equipment do I need if any more.
1.) so for a 1000w ballast x 4 that would be 5000w in light alone plus factor in a air conditioner and fans
and at any given time i might need close to 10kw?
2.) I know nothing or little electricity The breaker in the basement shows that the room
I want to grow on is on a 50amp circuit. so is this fine?
3.) What upgrades need done to ensure that I can safely run 4kw+ in the room of light plus fans etc?
that i might of missed or should get? This is my most important question
4 x 1000w hps to run continuously.
in the veg room going with 2 x 1000w mh ballasts continously
did some electrical upgrades had a electrician set up a dedicated 50 amp breaker going to a sub panel
with 6 (20 amp) breakers via a 12/2
I need some information here to know exactly if the upgrades that were done, meet or exceed
what i need to do and what equipment do I need if any more.
1.) so for a 1000w ballast x 4 that would be 5000w in light alone plus factor in a air conditioner and fans
and at any given time i might need close to 10kw?
2.) I know nothing or little electricity The breaker in the basement shows that the room
I want to grow on is on a 50amp circuit. so is this fine?
3.) What upgrades need done to ensure that I can safely run 4kw+ in the room of light plus fans etc?
that i might of missed or should get? This is my most important question
summitoker
Member
Just bought a sentinel hph-4 light controller that accepts a 3 wire power cord. The dryer outlet is a 4 prong so there is a extra wire can these be hooked together?
MAD PENGUIN SORRY TO HEAR OF THAT BULLSHIT AND ITS JUST THAT BULLSHIT!!
I'VE HAD A BUNCH OF BAD STUFF HAPPEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND (THIS IS GONNA SOUND CORNY BUT) I'VE REALLY LEARNED WHEN BAD STUFF HAPPENS TO TRAIN MY MIND AND DECIDE NOT TO THINK ABOUT BAD SHIT. ITS REALLY THAT EASY TELL YOURSELF " I WILL FEEL GOOD AND FLIP THRU THOUGHTS IN YOUR MIND THAT ARE GOOD UNTIL YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT BAD STUFF ANYMORE
ANYWAY I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP HERE I'VE LEARNED ALOT
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I'VE HAD A BUNCH OF BAD STUFF HAPPEN OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND (THIS IS GONNA SOUND CORNY BUT) I'VE REALLY LEARNED WHEN BAD STUFF HAPPENS TO TRAIN MY MIND AND DECIDE NOT TO THINK ABOUT BAD SHIT. ITS REALLY THAT EASY TELL YOURSELF " I WILL FEEL GOOD AND FLIP THRU THOUGHTS IN YOUR MIND THAT ARE GOOD UNTIL YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT BAD STUFF ANYMORE
ANYWAY I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP HERE I'VE LEARNED ALOT
BETTER THOUGHTS 1776
ok, I have an old dedicated dryer line that I want to use for my grow room. From what I gather it is a 30amp 240v line. It is connected to the breaker panel (2 pole 30amp breaker) with red, black, white and ground wire.
What I want to do is install a sub-panel off this line. I assume it would have a 30amp main breaker at 240v. I want to change that to 120v with two single pole 15amp breakers in the sub panel. (all my gear like lights and everything is setup for 120v). The sub panel would be about 20-25 feet from the main panel.
I estimate that total power needed for the grow room would be about 3000watts (lights, pumps, fans)
Is this setup possible?
What I want to do is install a sub-panel off this line. I assume it would have a 30amp main breaker at 240v. I want to change that to 120v with two single pole 15amp breakers in the sub panel. (all my gear like lights and everything is setup for 120v). The sub panel would be about 20-25 feet from the main panel.
I estimate that total power needed for the grow room would be about 3000watts (lights, pumps, fans)
Is this setup possible?
hey their is a good chance that your dryer circut does not have a neutral and you will need one for your 110vac. is it a 3 wire or a 4 wire plug. and dont let anyone tell you to just use the ground wire
FlyinHawaiian
Member
Moved into a new house and had things getting set up when luckily someone was in the bedroom one night and told me they saw sparks coming from the main panel. I had replaced the main breaker due to electrical issues and it was arcing on one of the buss bars. Ended up having to do what I should have done from the start.
Used the old panel for a junction box, installed a new 200 amp panel outside with new service drop.
Used the old panel for a junction box, installed a new 200 amp panel outside with new service drop.
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hempathy.inc
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I just grabbed some Sunleaves Two-Way Ballast and I have a CAP MLC-4XT timer from a previous grow. My question is because the 4XT has 120v receptacles that run at 240v, can I use the 120v cord that came with the ballast and just plug it in the 240v recepticle on the ballast.
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Sir_Nugget
This is extremely good info man.. exactly what i needed to kno to safely setup my 400w ballast kit from HTG supply
i am using a #16 wire that is 15 ft long from the ignitor to the socket, it is a 400w... would u guys recomend the 14 or the 12 gauge?
i am using a #16 wire that is 15 ft long from the ignitor to the socket, it is a 400w... would u guys recomend the 14 or the 12 gauge?
