extreegrowerrr
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i found the pic online i do not have access to look at the relay?
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Growroom Electricity and Wiring
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U4EA
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It's just a large double pole single throw relay/contactor that should have enough capacity for the entire run. Not sure if shutting the whole panel down is better using a huge relay, really depends on how your room is configured and what dependent devices are plugged in where and so on... I personally shut down only heat-producing devices (dehumidifier, lights) with a smaller contactor.
madpenguin
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Avenger, PC and others try to keep this going if you can. I'm going to bust out my violin really quick and then I'm done
Girl left me whom I was to be married and have children with. Have about 1 year and 3 months of charges/jail-time sitting on my plate because of incidents relating to her that were no fault of my own and well to be honest, I'm kinda on the edge of doing something stupid.
Got no energy to be here right now much less to even take care of myself. Please don't burn your shit down and try to use common sense. If you have a question, ask it and others will chime in. Hopefully I'll be back when I feel whole again.
Girl left me whom I was to be married and have children with. Have about 1 year and 3 months of charges/jail-time sitting on my plate because of incidents relating to her that were no fault of my own and well to be honest, I'm kinda on the edge of doing something stupid.
Got no energy to be here right now much less to even take care of myself. Please don't burn your shit down and try to use common sense. If you have a question, ask it and others will chime in. Hopefully I'll be back when I feel whole again.
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tokinafaty420
Take care of yourself and don't do anything rash.
Go recharge your batteries and we'll be looking forward to seeing you around again.
ZackMorris
Member
I got a question... The main breaker on my panel reads 100. Is that 100 amps at 240v or 120v? Say i was only running 1k hids on that panel, thats it, nothing else. At 9 amps apiece could i in theory run 9 or 19 of those?
Emperor Herer
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madpenguin, rest, think it through, live to fight another day.
madpenguin, rest, think it through, live to fight another day.
ZackMorris:
Math, my friend, is not my strong point.
Watts divided by Volts = Amps.
9,000W Dv 120 = 78 Amps
9,000W Dv 220 = 40Amps
19,000W Dv 120 = 159Amps
19,000W Dv 220 = 87Amps
Then you get into Single pole and double pole... I think.
I slept through that class.
madpenguin, rest, think it through, live to fight another day.
ZackMorris:
Math, my friend, is not my strong point.
Watts divided by Volts = Amps.
9,000W Dv 120 = 78 Amps
9,000W Dv 220 = 40Amps
19,000W Dv 120 = 159Amps
19,000W Dv 220 = 87Amps
Then you get into Single pole and double pole... I think.
I slept through that class.
U4EA
Member
Zack, that's 100A @ 240v. Your 1k ballast should be 9 amps @ 120v, or 4.5 amps @ 240v. "In theory" you can run 19 of them (actually 22, with 100% rated equipment, terminals, wires, non-surging equipment, etc., but you're not going to find that). Realistically with 80% rating, you can "safely" run almost 18.
Emperor Herer, I know you're trying to be helpful, but why "guess" at stuff you're not so sure about? Not the thread to do it.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/member.php?u=140965
Emperor Herer, I know you're trying to be helpful, but why "guess" at stuff you're not so sure about? Not the thread to do it.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/member.php?u=140965
I've just finished reading through this increadible, most excellent tutorial. Thanks to a Madpenguin, I actually feel I personally could safely run another circuit/line to my room -- thereby increasing the possibilities in my world dramatically. I'm sure it's the same for a lot of other people as well.
We all know it took a lot of time and effort to put these clear, easy-to-understand tutorials together but you've amassed so much Karma in the process -- I can't see anything really bad ever happening to you. Lotta times, seemingly "bad" or "hopeless" situations, those which can cause us so much pain and emotional turmoil shorterm, have an amazing way of so resolving themselves in our favor after all is said and done.
Be at Peace my Friend. . .
We all know it took a lot of time and effort to put these clear, easy-to-understand tutorials together but you've amassed so much Karma in the process -- I can't see anything really bad ever happening to you. Lotta times, seemingly "bad" or "hopeless" situations, those which can cause us so much pain and emotional turmoil shorterm, have an amazing way of so resolving themselves in our favor after all is said and done.
Be at Peace my Friend. . .
madpenguin
Member
Thanks guys.....
Thanks guys.....
Appreciate all the comments. This girl really worked her way into every aspect of my life. I'm sure most of you know what it feels like when it's abruptly gone.
Anyway... I'm heavily medicated and have an insanely expensive shark of a lawyer who says I'll see no jail time. Did some stupid shit trying to defend her "honor" and her physical well being which landed me in some hot water with the police. Spent the night and the next day in jail which sucked ass but got out on bond. Then she fuckin splits on me. Didn't pick me up when I was released and left me high and dry. Fuckin bitches man. I'll never understand them and I'm almost 40.
At this point, I'm just trying to ride the waves back into shore....
Anyway... I'll pop in more. I still want to make a nice cohesive linkable index to post on the very first post on the first page, that way people can find what they are looking for faster.
That damn mechanical relay tutorial was never finished. Also wanted to post a flip/flop tutorial. I'll get there one of these days.
Thanks guys.....
Appreciate all the comments. This girl really worked her way into every aspect of my life. I'm sure most of you know what it feels like when it's abruptly gone.
Anyway... I'm heavily medicated and have an insanely expensive shark of a lawyer who says I'll see no jail time. Did some stupid shit trying to defend her "honor" and her physical well being which landed me in some hot water with the police. Spent the night and the next day in jail which sucked ass but got out on bond. Then she fuckin splits on me. Didn't pick me up when I was released and left me high and dry. Fuckin bitches man. I'll never understand them and I'm almost 40.
At this point, I'm just trying to ride the waves back into shore....
Anyway... I'll pop in more. I still want to make a nice cohesive linkable index to post on the very first post on the first page, that way people can find what they are looking for faster.
That damn mechanical relay tutorial was never finished. Also wanted to post a flip/flop tutorial. I'll get there one of these days.
Sorry to hear that MP. I want you to know what you've been doing here has been invaluable for many members of the community here. It's a huge deal, and I am very grateful for it. I bet you'll be back and kicking ass in no time.
I also got a question for anyone who can answer it. I was thinking of using a metal wire rack as a ballast "cage" basically just setting the bare ballast and securing them/grounding them to the wire basket. I would take out all the other drawers except for the ones the ballasts sit in.
It looks like this except with white paint. The thing is pretty damn sturdy.
Is this safe? I know it is not enclosed, however the wire racks aren't going to catch fire and it's metal so it would be possible to ground it. I might even put a small fan on top to move air past the ballasts.
I also got a question for anyone who can answer it. I was thinking of using a metal wire rack as a ballast "cage" basically just setting the bare ballast and securing them/grounding them to the wire basket. I would take out all the other drawers except for the ones the ballasts sit in.
It looks like this except with white paint. The thing is pretty damn sturdy.
Is this safe? I know it is not enclosed, however the wire racks aren't going to catch fire and it's metal so it would be possible to ground it. I might even put a small fan on top to move air past the ballasts.
U4EA
Member
If it's structurally strong enough to handle the weight & balance of the ballasts, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. The ballasts and their metal enclosures should be grounded through the cord, so I don't see how it makes any difference.
I've used metal wire "baker's racks" in the past for a bunch of 40# core & coil ballasts without a problem.
I've used metal wire "baker's racks" in the past for a bunch of 40# core & coil ballasts without a problem.
There is no metal enclosure, these are ballast kits, just core and coil, capacitor, ignitor, and wires.
The thing is rock solid as far as being able to support the weight.
Were your ballasts bare (no metal enclosure) on the bakers racks?
U4EA
Member
No mine were Hydrofarm XtraSun's with an aluminum enclosure, but more or less the same. If I were you I would mount those ballast kits on a board, and then maybe house the modular boards on the racks.
You should also prepare for the ballast to hum/vibrate a little, it's important to mount/strap it securely.
Since you have the kit, it would be wise to separate the capacitor so that it's in a cool location away from the core heat.
You should also prepare for the ballast to hum/vibrate a little, it's important to mount/strap it securely.
Since you have the kit, it would be wise to separate the capacitor so that it's in a cool location away from the core heat.
Do you mean to mount them on a plywood board, or something else? I have read ballasts mounted directly to plywood are a fire hazard, due to not having a ground, is this not the case?
I was also wondering what specific kind of wire to use for the ballast to socket cord, gauge and type. That would be the same wire used to extend the distance to the capacitor and ignitor, right?
Another question, the lights will be hung vertically, no reflector. Do I need to extend the ballast ground through the lamp cord and wire it into the metal hardware used to hang the sockets? The sockets themselves are ceramic, and the hot wires do not come into contact with the hardware. However I see people grounding their reflectors, so I am a little confused on this. What is the right way to do it?
Thanks for the help.
I was also wondering what specific kind of wire to use for the ballast to socket cord, gauge and type. That would be the same wire used to extend the distance to the capacitor and ignitor, right?
Another question, the lights will be hung vertically, no reflector. Do I need to extend the ballast ground through the lamp cord and wire it into the metal hardware used to hang the sockets? The sockets themselves are ceramic, and the hot wires do not come into contact with the hardware. However I see people grounding their reflectors, so I am a little confused on this. What is the right way to do it?
Thanks for the help.
Dr. Green Thumb
Member
Quick question for all you electricians. This new place i moved into only houses a 15a breaker for the whole condo. Now the current grow is all on one circuit upstairs...my question is how much power can i run on that one circuit? I basically want to install a 400hps with fans and such so im just wondering if i can pull all that power without tripping anything? I've even looked into digital ballasts because I dont have much power to work with, i look forward to everyone's responses
DrGreenThumb
DrGreenThumb
Dr. Green Thumb
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are you asking about the receptaccles ill be plugging into? They are 120v...my dryer uses a 240v plug though.....sorry im a complete idiot with electricity still to this day!
