growing big trees '09

[Puffster]

wow that is just amazing, monsters!

Maybe the TGU is a cross of Kc Brains 'TNR' to something ? I've seen and heard of people calling it the worlds possibly largest outdoor plant...I think a guy named silverback on here got some information on them. In general he seems to recommend Kc33 and TNR if you want monsters, well you already have monsters but it could be fun to see a fully prevegged tnr \ kc33 in that sweet garden of yours thats for sure

anyways, simply amazing plants you will have a mega-harvest, good luck with the rest of your grow!

 

[r13f]

just looking, gotta say great trees

 

[sito007]

nice trees

 

[humboldtlocal]

They look great. Bummer about the rodent problems. I had lots of rodent damage last year. The plants would look okay until they started to bud and then they would die once tiny pre flowers had formed. Your stalks don't look as bad as mine did so you should be okay. Good job covering up the damage. We used this plant glue called Doc Farwells seal and heal.

 

[beer batter]

humboldtlocal- thanks, I’ve been using a tree wound dressing to seal any branches I remove where the sun doesn’t shine, just packed the voids in the ground with all right soil and soluble root enhancer to stimulate root growth and inoculate the stalk and such so it doesn’t get nasty and slimy. I am in all out war with these critters, I feel a lot like Bill Murray this year. Things will change in the years to come, cage the perimeter at least 2ft deep and maybe even the bottom so they don’t make it to the stalks.

#1cheesebuds; I walk in the footsteps of my partner who started his in 3gal pots early Feb. last year, I started mine in 5 gal pots 3GDP cut on march7 and 1 Maui I cut on march12 -I cut more but had these dedicated for outside to be re-located no earlier then may10 (SF bay area/emerald triangle)

Puffster; for all I know this could be some of Ed Rosenthal’s super bud, we just don’t know. It is called The Great Unknown, she clones really well and grows faster and taller then all my others yet is a soothing indicia -very sweet, floral and hash aroma.

sackoweed; I’m doing well now that I have alternative therapy for my depression/anxiety but still tossing back mix of ibuprofen and acetaminophen liquid gels to ease the back and arm. Gardening helps take my mind off allot of that garbage but can cause pain. I would say the majority is in heavy sun, with some directly at sun up with a little shade from 9-11. The neighbor behind us had cut a tree down last season and we trimmed out orange tree back which gave allot more early morning sun, still the back of the row where our 3 GDP's where planted had more shade from the bushes on the hillside -and another tree to the west that blocks sun in the evening, they flowered early on then reverted back. I trimmed allot of the bushed myself up the hill from them early on to get rid of the shade the GDP gets allot of full morning sun and full sun through the summer but as the angle moves southward I get more of the shade from the shrubbery up the hill.

hanuman- thanks bro, if I let my cat out in our garden she'd chew up all of the leafs at ground level for some reason my cats chew on bamboo leafs too. she got into the grow room a few times, sneeks in and sneeks out

 

[beer batter]

Thank you icmag for the response and the welcoming, it’s been hard marching threw this work with little/no meds and to come across added stress. Being in a shortfall of supply I've started an antidepressant/generalized anxiety therapy cause its just not therapeutic working as hard as I am with no herb to calm me down or sooth my pains. Thankfully I’ve got a crop of Granddaddy Purple rounding the bases indoors so I’m looking forward to that. Like this quote I remember from some program about ageing and Alzheimer’s therapy sessions, I found it in a quick search just now; {"- Look for opportunity. Since then, the VP’s company has thrived. One way to find the opportunity in setback, says George Vaillant, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, is by seeking out, and getting advice from, people who have been in similar situations. “When you come to a minefield and you see footprints to the other side, step in them,” he suggests. “[If you’ve lost your job,] you want to find someone who had lost their job and now has one.” "} It was something like if you ever find yourself in a minefield and see footprints to the other side, walk in them. I dunno if it’s the same guy
http://www.americanwaymag.com/salvatore-maddi-henry-petroski-harvard-medical-school-california

I couldn’t mend the damage cause I didn’t want to rip up any more of the root mass then I deeded. Not really knowing what’s still alive and what’s been cut off. So I mixed some soluble root enhancer with some dry soil I had from some veggies in a 30 gal grow bag that had fell over -tomatillos that had got too heavy and too tall and had snapped when I attempted a re-tie.
This dirt was put out in the flower garden and dried up, I needed a quick fix cause my local shops are closed on Sunday so I used a fair amount of the soluble powder mixed w/the dirt and moistened. This was packed into the void under the stalk (witch was more around the stalk, I noticed yesterday that they had come back. I inspected the new void they had created at the stalk and saw that it goes a little deeper then I though earlier before branching out. Theirs some shallow root branching but the thick stalk goes down several inches)

Looking out over the shed this morning I can see she is dead so I’m blaming it square on the gopher though I didn’t use the best stuff this last time I packed the void after a gopher attack. I had mixed worm casting I had made tea with into the soil instead of the soluble root enhancer I had used before w/the same soil. The mix was too hard and needed perlite to add much needed air to the mix, I should have just added the mycorrhizae/40%humic acid powder (soluble root enhancer/down to earth) so theirs not allot of aeration to the soil I had packed into the most resent void its the 3rd attack on this poor girl, the first attack went right around ti and took out the 2nd GDP from teh back -the hard dense soil would probably make the critters dig deeper for more roots.
I had torn a bright orange habanera pepper apart but so it was still intact -fresh out the garden, after filling in the tunnels around the plant I tossed it into the tunnel leading up the hillside and used some irrigation tubing to push it further down the hole. The next day I come out to inspect things and the GDP is very ugly looking, very lethargic and dehydrated -I don’t know if this is from yesterdays damage or if they had dug another tunnel and began a new approach after finding my spicy treasure. –A few days before I had also sprayed the hillside and the area they where first coming from with a gopher/mole repellant (Repellex) made from 60%caster oil, paprika resins and other stuff. Spraying only the perimeter around that side of the 4x15ft row where I put my GDP's. Not in the root bed but around the outside where I had noticed fresh mounds w/loose soil. It says its for use on lawns and other turf, I'm using it in a near by dirt patch and hill side that’s full of I've. And following directions I watered it in well, it said their activity may increase as they leave the area (didn’t want that) I might have fucked the pooch using the wrong product. –It wasn’t something we had to go buy; we had it on the shelf. I should if just got poison right then and their.

It seems their starting in our ivy and getting comfortable with our irrigation, problem is our ivy is our soil/hillside erosion control and this really needs to be addressed both now and after the plants come down.

This is the 4th time they have come into the root bed and attacked my GDP stalks. This is the 3rd attack on this one plant, the first time it happened I used than same dirt mixed with soluble root enhancer and had great r-growth with white root showing under the bark about a week and a half later, this time I was running low so I only used a little to moisten the mix and then soaked the area afterwards.

But I also gave some foliar food in hopes it will keep her from death and maybe survive long enough to re-grow some vital root mass. First throwing everything I had at it and not knowing what I’m doing, probably and 1/8tsp of earth juice bloom and another 1/8 tsp of age old grow I have for indoor nutrients. Then I added 2 tsp of ancient amber cause this was fro a 1/2gal pump/sprayer, I soaked the plant and both sides of it droopy lifeless foliage and the tops that still had some life left in them. I then sprayed the whole crop -all 7 plants I have left with an omri listed neem concentrate by greenlight, this was for some powdery mildew I had been trying to get off of my Maui as well as some tiny tan/brownish colored flies that seem to love my masterkush and had gotten out of hand a few times. This time I had used 1.5tbs per gallon and made up 6 gallons sprayed the stalks and stems and leafs and bud sites. After I had sprayed the first foliar on our effected GDP plant I noticed a currier had arrived with our Age-Old bloom and so I gave a final foliar feeding after the neem spray down with ancient amber 2 tsp (1tsp per quart) and about 1/4tsp or less of age old bloom. -I have a nice budset on this GDP coming along sooner then the others, maybe enough to make hash from it but I decided to attempt to nourish it and get what bugs where sucking on it the hell off so it has a better chance of survival.

This could be futile if the rodents have dug deeper and made a tunnel I can't simply stick my finger into (every time I have found gopher damage it start with a week or loosened stalk -this is a key indicator, so I test my other stalks by giving them a slight and genital back and forth movement -they should be cemented in their and the roots will keep it in place. the first time I had a few branches staked up so the plant was held up but nothing was connected at the base -that was our first loss this year. this other GDP had also been held up, or else it might have fell over then and snapped what roots it had left to re-grow. I was told to try and tie it over into the vacant spaces, we where overgrown before the gophers came.

Today I’m doing what I should have done a month ago, buy some poison and get rid of this pest for good. I wont use anything in the root bed so ill have to carefully apply it in the tunnels leading away from the area. It’s gunna suck tossing out some tuffs I could of made into some hash, that’s what I get for foliar feeding last night. I think I’m gunna trim the leaf and hose the rest off good and well and then shake it off and fix up some lines to hang them on. Got to get some hash or something from this girl. I basically threw everything I had at it, short of buying fresh soil or not using as much or any worm castings.

The soluble root enhancer was not just to provide faster re-growth of root mass, it was to inoculate the damaged stalk and prevent rot or any infection from occurring- last year my partner had gopher problems and had over watered as well so their was infection and rot, my theory is that theirs allot more oxygen under the ground in the void right next to the stalk -this can lead to fungi and bacterial growth that could cause further damage, so I went straight to my stash of soluble root enhancer. I’m running low already, got this 5lb of the stuff earlier this season http://www.horticulturesource.com/d...3329/?osCsid=6962e7e4be350d7378f4939d81594cd5
It even has an expiration date on June 2011; I use the stuff indoors and out.

Another complaint that’s arising is our neighbors next door have floodlights pointed into our backyard from their deck area, we gotta nip that in the butt. Talk to them and/or put up a volleyball type rig with wood and some type of fabric to block the light from photofucking my plants into hermaphrodites. They are likely not to care about our personal health needs and we'll put up some defensive measures. They turn it on at 5am and sometimes at night whenever they want, so I’m out their measuring when it’s on to see how big my blocker needs to be to protect the photoperiod. I have to see the shadows on the plants and judge by that also using an 8ft sturdy stake from home depot to help. –Last year plants where mostly all behind the shed and I had but 2 seeds in around 3 ½ pounds of bud, 1,798 grams –632 premature and infested with corn warms/moth larvae out of 959grams from just 2 TGU’s. Its something about the sent she gives that attracts the moths I think.
I don’t know if any of that pre-mature bud had seed cause it was hashed but more the most part it was a seedless crop. I was thankful for the beans I found, used them to breed our far out TGU clone only with the other clone only genetics as well as the new addition from California bean bank. Next year I aim at putting a TGU x Granddaddy Purple. I need to find a good clone from my sprouts and start that the first few weeks of Feb. along with another Maui and Masterkush I find TGU is such a beast (its literally a 3-5LB’er given full sun, space and support) –I find a few extra months in their favor isn’t a bad thing unless they would grow bigger then I can support –this 1 has grown more then I ever thought from being cloned in April and started in a 1gal pot.

 

[Dödsknark]

Stoned and speechless

 

[_marijuano_]

amazing plants man!

 

[BrotherGanja]

This is a great grow man. I love how you utilize the space that you have it is great. This is an inspiring grow you have no open field just a little cranny of a yard and you are still pulling out trees, truly man this is great. Thanks for sharing.

Bless

 

[beer batter]

I've been feeding at 75:1 again the other day I switched it to 50:1 for a few minutes but im sticking with 75:1. About 1 week ago I added less then a quart of ancient amber and foliar fed with 1tsp per quart -4tsp per gallon w/no burning, using up the last ageold bloom and ordered some more. I gotta order some more ancient amber but I do that threw horticulture source -its 29.98 per gallon where its $40 at the local shop. Roots organics AA is much cheaper then topmax and it’s a very nice foliar application aside form washing off the insect and fungicides.

 

[Dödsknark]

Very nice!

I haven't foliarfed before. Does it make a big difference? I get the feeling nutrientuptake would be faster? Would you recommend it?

Nice trees.

 

[splifftoker]

You're a bit more north of where I am in the Bay Area and thus don't have to worry about humidity as much I do, but I'm still wondering: what is the absolute latest you will harvest buds? Amazing trees, I dream of reaching that level of production some day.

 

[beer batter]

The 6ftx6ft (600w) crop of indoor granddady purple I just harvested was foliar/bud fed with this ancient amber as well as the last 1/2 of the cycle before. I am confident its not hurting bud set or formation and would increase nutrient cycling, I also use it in the young mixer proportioner w/ageold organics. I’ve been using soluble root enhancer to increase nutrient cycling in the soil (40% humic acid + mycorrhizae) I also get the on this site -the 5lb bag has got the most value, each 14gram jar is $20. http://www.horticulturesource.com/a...2591/?osCsid=fcb504801ee400a1888060ef98dc4dab

I’ve also been spraying in the mornings before the sun comes up, I had problems spraying at dawn with safers cat killer and serenade -this is safe to spray with lights on in the grow room and just after dawn as the sun comes threw the trees, as the tops get lit up.. Only problem I had with safers cat killer was the hairs turned brown but only the very tips and theirs a lot more clustering. It could have been from some serenade or green cure I was using about a week apart to cure this powdery mildew on the Maui, I should use safers cat killer at dusk cause moths are nocturnal anyhow -I only spray foliage not all surfaces like a insect/fungicide. It’s used in veg for foliar too, im wondering if the himic acid/fulvic acid in it would cancel out any powdery mildew factors. Green cure is worrying cause my indoor GDP was sprayed 2 weeks before harvest for powdery mildew and I’ve had some leafs with white residue down the middle of the blades, don't notice any on the bud were sifting the sugar leaf for edibles so no worries their. Just a thought on the residue left behind after using some of these organic foliars 2,3 weeks before harvest.

If anything I have a hunch it encourages flowers to mature faster, it’s the first time I’ve foliar fed the buds. -I foliar feed with liquid kelp and ancient amber in veg only use the kelp when its looks liek they could use it (growth tips arnt as green or the plant isnt looking happy or after a hot stressfull day) I stop 3 weeks or so before harvest indoors, I can apply some things I learn in the grow room to the outdoor crop. Im out for now though, so I wont spray for a few weeks at least.


Im in the east bay, we aren’t very humid just had some tropical depression give us some thunder lightening and then some rain. Had some powdery mildew only as the buds set, I think its because my wood chip -mulch had mixed in with the soil around the Maui and that’s not good plus she had been sort of shaded out by the monster TGU plant and squished between the MasterKush. She is thriving but not in top health -also some lower stuff was growing on top of ivy leafs that I think was initiating the powdery mildew. I cut out the diseased stuff if its a top her or a lower cola their then ill just dissect the salvageable un-effected nugs from what I cut (I go to the next healthy node typically the stem is infected inside of the buds or moves from the buds to the stem) I will take my crop till the buds are done clustering and then I look threw a 30x jewelers mag or 420scope.
If theirs a long storm coming in half way threw October I might think about chopping some thick tops, leave the rest till November. Id like to have it all up till November unless their ready sooner, GDP is sure to be done by mid October -I’ve gota tie it over more cause its shaded big time by TGU. I probably have 2 dozen 8ft sturdy poles and have used 6 rolls of uni-grow support tape so far.

 

[beer batter]

The best thing I can do to be sure of huge ass plants -especially GDP is start them early Feb. indoors and veg in 5-10 gal pots till may10th, then the photoperiod is safe so get them in the ground under some mulch before it gets real hot outside. i use flimsy pots and sheet metal cuter to cut away the plastic leaving a huge pot-sized root mass i lower into the hole, or make the hole big enough to cut the pot away then back fill ammended wit hdr earth starter fert and e.b.stone kelp meal. They should hit the ground running w/3ft starters; I was overgrown this spring before the gophers came. We had a lot of potential with those..
My irrigation was not concrete, theirs some dry spots in the root bad and i try to manually fix that -try to remember. I planed on adjusting the shurblers once the got big but the roots had growth around the tubing.

That compost tea was a whole box of starter fertilizer plus a few gallons of worm castings mixed with 10 gallons of water. I watered a little after adding this, and removed as much wood chips from the soil while protecting root mass as I could. I don’t think it was a good thing but I like the mulch -in the winter ill sift the wood ship from the top layers of soil, store them aside and amend the soil -look for grubs I found last winter turning over the soil in the 4ft x 15ft row. -I purchased a pick axe and carved out an extra 4-5 ft into the ivy 2 years back, I may try to get a larger grow bag or something for next year but this 30gal grow bag I working for the space I have -maybe it would be healthier with more dirt cause its surely packed with roots by now.

 

[beer batter]

WORMS

Master kush with some new poles stick in befor tieing more tops up that have wondered or fallen a bit, keep them all erect and its the 3rd direction most of the maui tops are tied in. the fall one way then another and now they will be erected proper. maui is in their between Master kush on the left and TGU to the right

TGU

This TGU plant had 4 main tops you only see 2 here, alot of growth spilled into the roof i tie back up. kind blends into the seanery/skyline. ive been pulling back the bud cluster from the stem gently and found worm only on TGU and Masterkush, the maui wich is sandwiched between the 2 is unneffected -no worms. aswell as GDP, only 1 bud taken down from rot so far, a little bud. i hoped my but ontop of the shes and schooched over to the plant puling the topes over to look into aswell as surounding buds. some brown tips but alot of the infestation is very early allong and nothing is roten just a few dired up buds that had their stems sucked dry/hollow. now i feel like george of the jungle an shit

Maui is to the far leaf and GDP is on the right of this godzilla like TGU

Maui stalk, ill have fresh pics upleaded today of Maui/GDP buds

GDP stalk

I took the mulch back to pick out some peaces that had worked unto the root bed, re-use the dirt from my indoor crop after sifting out roots from that. the wood chips are put back after the soil settles. ive got 3 shublers around each plant in the row and the 30gal bag.

 

[beer batter]

I found that the 8ft sturdy poles from home depot are too short for these plants once a foot or so is buried in the ground so I duct taped 2 8' poles together and pushed that into place then just added another to set of duct taped poles the Maui in the final direction so all the dozen tops are erect and well spaced. I haven’t measured but they are probly 12,13ft angled to support the branches inside and around the sides of the Maui

 

[Oregonic]

This TGU plant had 4 main tops you only see 2 here, alot of growth spilled into the roof i tie back up. kind blends into the seanery/skyline.

great fuckin pic bro monsters!!!

 

[beer batter]

I WAS RIPPED, 80%. cant sleep and ive been hanging the crop up after orders from mom and pops. been perkin off 9 year old knob creek we had in the freezer but still everything is blurry from tears and belligerence!
i charge it to the game and plan to grow just as big next year only A LOT MORE and plenty of security cause this ain't no community garden godamb it

-i found 1 of thoes 8ft sturdy poles out by the street...

 

[beer batter]

i had the baby monitor pluged into a wall w/ alight switch that was turned off.. go fugure, shits happends and crooks get rich... i shoulda pulled out the chain saw and cut their tirles up, might of got shot though! if i make a report to the cops they will likely investigate us not the true crime, the grand theft of thousands of $$$ of medical maijuana but the property wich is culitvating... its a sobering reminder of the need for reform, public safty and SECURITY

 

[ureapwhatusow]

wow so so so sorry to hear it

i just entered this thread, started looking and said my god not only are these really trees in every aspect of the word, but those plants are the absolute picture of health

it may diminish your harvest but not my respect for your skills