GROW TENTS !!!!!!!!!

[cobo]

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Esoteric Hydroponics ​

Well I have ordered my Homebox and I’ve also ordered 5” Fan & Filter also ordered other bits a pieces ie.nute’s jiffy’s, Rockwood, and I thought it only fair that I give my suppliers a gee up here because they bent over backwards to help me in every way i.e. Advice and Price Matching as I will show you below.

HOMEBOX

Grow Tent XLarge 120cm x 120cm x 200cm Code: M55 £275 BUY.

PRICE MATCH Price £100​

The RVK range Silent LTI Fan, 125mm, 225m³ with filter Code: F39
£220 BUY.

PRICE MATCH Price £105​

ALSO i got money knocked off of nute's and other stuff i bought ..

It just goes to show you the mark up on all theses products , i bought my first system off of Esoteric Hydroponics and got a good deal too . But moral of story is ALWAYS Shop Around and NEVER take First Price.

But that BEEN said i would HIGHLY RECOMMEND Esoteric Hydroponics . Just give them a ring tell them the price you are looking for , and they will match it if they can.They are a very helpfull team of people . Dont let there advertised price's put you off .

So a BIG CHEERS TO

Esoteric Hydroponics ​

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[Guest]

just to clarify cobo thats a bud box not a homebox, similar but not the same.

 

[cobo]

just to clarify cobo thats a bud box not a homebox, similar but not the same.

NO Hedonism i bought the HOMEBOX For the PRICE MATCH Price £100

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Must be the BEST Price ANYWHERE ?



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[Guest]

oh ok, those other pics where of a bud box so it threw me off.

 

[pugnacious]

you think you can fit 4 600ws in the 4 x 8 model?

 

[cobo]

you think you can fit 4 600ws in the 4 x 8 model?

HMMMMM...? Maybe 2 1000W or 3X 600W

4 SEEMS OVER KILL, BUT OTHERS MIGHT DISAGREE

 

[cobo]

oh ok, those other pics where of a bud box so it threw me off.

Must be the best price £100 for homebox anywhere in europe ?

 

[cobo]

you think you can fit 4 600ws in the 4 x 8 model?

4 X 8 = 32 sqr foot x 2400w =75w x 1' sqr seems a lot

4 x 8 == 32 sqr foot x 1800w = 56.25w X 1' sqr might be better with 3 X 600w lights

 

[jojajico]

4 X 8 = 32 sqr foot x 2400w =75w x 1' sqr seems a lot

4 x 8 == 32 sqr foot x 1800w = 56.25w X 1' sqr might be better with 3 X 600w lights

75w psf is where u should be for a top notch grow. ive seen a few 100 + wpsf grows and the extra light does help, you can trust that.

 

[cobo]

75w psf is where u should be for a top notch grow. ive seen a few 100 + wpsf grows and the extra light does help, you can trust that.

Fair enough . did know tht.

 

[RockDawg]

Those grow tents are freaking sweet! I am getting ready to begin a grow in the unfinished basement of our new home and I plan to build a storage room around the grow. One of those tents would mean that I don't have to make the outer room and door lightproof. It would also mean that my carbon filter doesn't have to filter the entire storage room. I didn't know they made such things.. I'll most likely be buying one.

 

[jcsmooth]

Hey Rockdawg,

Glad to hear you've found a purpose for a grow tent
One word of caution....the tents aren't perfectly lightproof. You mentioned that you wouldn't have to lightproof your door, but I don't want you to think that the tent would be lightproof itself.

G'luck,
JC

 

[HighonthePrize]

i got my hydrohut 2x4 the other day. it is f ing cool. i will be buying another for flowering in a month or two. i'm running t5's in them, cause they fit so nice. i can't wait to start this grow!

 

[kokua]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cobo
4 X 8 = 32 sqr foot x 2400w =75w x 1' sqr seems a lot

4 x 8 == 32 sqr foot x 1800w = 56.25w X 1' sqr might be better with 3 X 600w lights

75w psf is where u should be for a top notch grow. ive seen a few 100 + wpsf grows and the extra light does help, you can trust that.

Light is energy...but there is such a thing as deminishing returns.

You would have a very difficult time keeping temps down in a 4x8 tent using that much light. Your light levels would be high but your temps would be just as high. And temperature and environment play just as important of a role as light.

50 watts per square is more than sufficient to grow dense heavy yeilding tops. 75 is pushing it, and 100 is a total waste.

I can say with a great deal of certainty that a 50 watt per square foot garden will 9 times out of 10 out yeild a 100 wpsf garden in terms of grams per watt. That is what matters.

 

[kokua]

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Esoteric Hydroponics ​

Well I have ordered my Homebox and I’ve also ordered 5” Fan & Filter also ordered other bits a pieces ie.nute’s jiffy’s, Rockwood, and I thought it only fair that I give my suppliers a gee up here because they bent over backwards to help me in every way i.e. Advice and Price Matching as I will show you below.

HOMEBOX

Grow Tent XLarge 120cm x 120cm x 200cm Code: M55 £275 BUY.

PRICE MATCH Price £100​

The RVK range Silent LTI Fan, 125mm, 225m³ with filter Code: F39
£220 BUY.

PRICE MATCH Price £105​

ALSO i got money knocked off of nute's and other stuff i bought ..

It just goes to show you the mark up on all theses products , i bought my first system off of Esoteric Hydroponics and got a good deal too . But moral of story is ALWAYS Shop Around and NEVER take First Price.

But that BEEN said i would HIGHLY RECOMMEND Esoteric Hydroponics . Just give them a ring tell them the price you are looking for , and they will match it if they can.They are a very helpfull team of people . Dont let there advertised price's put you off .

So a BIG CHEERS TO

Esoteric Hydroponics ​

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esoteric hydro is a great outfit!!! The guy who runs the shop has a book out called "Hydroponics Indoor Horticulture"

chapter excerpt:

"Like humans, plants actually need to respire 24 hours a day to survive. During the light cycle, plants will uptake faster if there is an abundance of oxygen available. As stated before, during the light cycle, the plants are constantly producing oxygen so this is not normally a problem. However, the roots of a plant, day or night, do not produce any oxygen. The plants’ internal oxygen is manufactured from the leaves splitting hydrogen from the water molecule to generate sugar, which then releases excess oxygen."

This has got to be the most thorough indoor gardening books ever printed. It even gives some 'esoteric' techniques that possibly only a handful of growers in the world are willing to undertake and exploit. Quite possibly the best resource available to growers, other than the forums

 

[jojajico]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cobo
4 X 8 = 32 sqr foot x 2400w =75w x 1' sqr seems a lot

4 x 8 == 32 sqr foot x 1800w = 56.25w X 1' sqr might be better with 3 X 600w lights




Light is energy...but there is such a thing as deminishing returns.

You would have a very difficult time keeping temps down in a 4x8 tent using that much light. Your light levels would be high but your temps would be just as high. And temperature and environment play just as important of a role as light.

50 watts per square is more than sufficient to grow dense heavy yeilding tops. 75 is pushing it, and 100 is a total waste.

I can say with a great deal of certainty that a 50 watt per square foot garden will 9 times out of 10 out yeild a 100 wpsf garden in terms of grams per watt. That is what matters.

i disagree ive seen grows that bumped it up to 100 wpsf and saw amazing results from previous grows and that was without CO2. your right there is a level of diminishing returns what i have read it occurs at 120 wpsf. the sun puts out alot more light than any HID light and as you can see plants usually grow better outdoors. i think high light output, if you can cool it, is especially important for small grows as a means to maxamize the spaces yeild capabilities.

 

[kokua]

i'm not saying that 100 watts per foot is too much light...I am saying that 100 watts per foot produces alot of excess heat. I am also saying that efficiency is the name of the game bro...you might get bigger buds with the 100 wpsf...but you are using twice as much light...are you seeing twice as big of buds? Usually not...that is what I am saying, grams per watt is what you should be looking at. And I guarantee you that the grows you saw didn't yield twice as much as if they were running at 50 wpsf.


The sun is free...and is air cooled. Its a different game all together.

 

[jojajico]

i'm not saying that 100 watts per foot is too much light...I am saying that 100 watts per foot produces alot of excess heat. I am also saying that efficiency is the name of the game bro...you might get bigger buds with the 100 wpsf...but you are using twice as much light...are you seeing twice as big of buds? Usually not...that is what I am saying, grams per watt is what you should be looking at. And I guarantee you that the grows you saw didn't yield twice as much as if they were running at 50 wpsf.


The sun is free...and is air cooled. Its a different game all together.

actually they nearly were... and this was in organic soil. just imagine hydro if you wanted to go that route. if you can exhaust the heat go for more light its worth it especially in small cab grows. a 100 watt in a 3x3 area and you can yeild enough to bath in lol.

 

[kokua]

. a 100 watt in a 3x3 area and you can yeild enough to bath in lol.

I suppose it depends on what you want to get out of your garden...if your goal is to grow big beefy buds without reference to the energy used to create those buds, then you will succeed with 100 watts per square foot.

If your goal is to produce bud efficiently, then you must consider how much bud you could possibly produce out of a given energy source. That is smart gardening.

I will assume you meant to say 1000 watt in a 3x3....

I bet you you could yield more with the same 1000 in a 6x6. The buds won't be as big or as dense...but your gpw will go up.

Bottom line is every garden is different. Different setups will work better for different growers. Find the light levels that work for you and your garden. I have found through years of trail and error that 50-75 watts per square is more than I need to produce effecient buds. I have tried 100 wpsf in different circumstances and in each one the yield went up but not in proportion to how much light I was using.

 

[jojajico]

lol i bet i could get a better yeild from the smaller space. i think we practice to different theroies of growing. where i subscribe to getting as much out of each plant as possible regardless of veg time you believe in growing more plants to compensate for the lack of per plat production. both methods work to grow great bud.

but for this instance more light would be better because of the small space and you are trying to maxamize the space. in THIS situation more light is easier to add than more space.