GROW TENTS !!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

That's odd. I owned a HydroHut Mini, and it had the front zipper door (half-split down the middle, so actually "two doors"), and every hole had a Velcro'd cover. The air intakes with the black mesh on the bottom were on both sides and the back.

If you are counting both side flaps as its own door, then by using your math then the deluxe has eight doors, if thats even possible...and the velcro that I am talking about is the velcro over the part where the zippers meet at each of the "eight" doors, not the intake/export and electrical ports. . You are right the mini and OG do have vents on the sides and back, thats why I like the deluxe better bc it ONLY has the two in front and two in back. peace_highst

 

[clowntown]

Why would it be better to not have an option? You can always tape the vents shut. On the other hand, to add extra vents (if you feel it's necessary) you'd have to cut holes in it. Options are always better.

I'm not counting the sides as doors. The front zipper opens up down the middle.

Either way, the Deluxe vs. Original / Mini isn't even a comparison. The features are almost literally the exact same, at least when comparing current versions (perhaps the ones you have are older, obsolete versions) with the obvious differences as stated. You won't want a Deluxe if you're running 600w, or even 1kw. And you won't want an Original or Mini if you're running 2kw. It's like comparing apples to bigger apples.

 

[Guest]

Why would it be better to not have an option? You can always tape the vents shut. On the other hand, to add extra vents (if you feel it's necessary) you'd have to cut holes in it. Options are always better.

I'm not counting the sides as doors. The front zipper opens up down the middle.

You dont need the option, with the deluxe you got the intake at one side (on the bottom) and the exhaust out the (top) of the other side and then the four extra air vents on the front and back. Its the perfect set-up: air sucked in the bottom of one side and exits the top of the other and you get the bonus air flow on the front and back vents as the air pass by it. You dont need the option of air vents on both sides if you your exhaust and intake on the sides, its just better to keep the vents in front/back and intake/exhast on the sides. This configuration gives you the best possible air flow IMO.

With the doors, its like this: the mini and OG have ONE in front and the deluxe has four doors, one on each side with. I am not sure how better to explain it, but the deluxe offers better access reguardless of size.

Why would I be biased aggainst the other sizes, I own all three, its not like I am saying the other two suck, its just that for someone who is thinking of buying one, just spend the extra cash and just get the deluxe to start with bc you will be the most satisfied with it. Its just BETTER, plain and simple. peace_Highst

 

[clowntown]

You dont need the option, with the deluxe you got the intake at one side (on the bottom) and the exhaust out the (top) of the other side and then the four extra air vents on the front and back.

The Mini and the Original also have the intake and exhaust holes, except they're 4". Your Mini and Original must be REALLY old. Options are always nice to have, period, no matter how much you think you won't need them. They give you... options.

With the doors, its like this: the mini and OG have ONE in front and the deluxe has four doors, one on each side with. I am not sure how better to explain it, but the deluxe offers better access reguardless of size.

The pictures of the Deluxe I've seen has two doors, split down the middle of the front side:

 

[Guest]

The Mini and the Original also have the intake and exhaust holes, except they're 4". Your Mini and Original must be REALLY old. Options are always nice to have, period, no matter how much you think you won't need them. They give you... options.

I never said the mini and OG didnt have exhaust ports, so I am not sure where you are getting that. My mini and OG have both exhaust and intake and they arent ole versions, I bought both within the last six months.

The pictures of the Deluxe I've seen has two doors, split down the middle of the front side:

If it had one split down the front, that makes one door, but the deluxe has two slits on each side (front, back, each side; two slits=one doors, that the formula I am using) for a total of (drum roll please) FOUR DOORS. I hate to break the news to you, but in that picture, they only way to show you the inside of the Hut is to pull the front door back and it hides the side doors, but I promise you they do exist, they are there.

Do you own a deluxe? I was just trying to explain the differnces between all three models and the little things that makes each their own and you tell me I am wrong, when I have all three sitting in my garage and you dont seem to own all three. So if you are basing your info on a product by a picture this discusion doesnt make sense. peace_highst

 

[clowntown]

I think I'm getting it now. So both the 8' sides have doors? So two sides of the rectangle can be opened? That is pretty handy to have (assuming you don't have one of the sides faced against a wall), makes getting to the back plants a bit easier I suppose.

Yeah, the Original and Mini have the door only on one side. I don't own the Deluxe, only seen pictures of it. No grow shop I've been to carried one as a display. Not that I'd be interested in the Deluxe anytime soon, with my size of a grow.

All I'm saying is that the three different versions are more or less the same thing, on a different scale of size. Particularly the Mini vs Original... they're the exact same, minus the size. Same proportions, exact same features (including 4" intake/exhaust on both), just size difference. I didn't know that the Deluxe had openings on two sides.

Anyways, believe me if I had a 1kw I'd have bought the HydroHut Original (52" x 52") without a second's thought. Not that the feature list is really that big of a difference, they're almost identical. But I'm running 600w, and the HomeBox (47" x 47") is still a hair too small as it is! I do like the duct socks and the 6" holes, but I wouldn't mind cutting 6" holes to get the metal corners. Whether metal corners are really necessary or not, I don't care. Just less potential of a problem.

The BudBox however... as soon as I read "plastic bars" I decided it's not worth reading further. And it's the same price.

 

[Sunset]

Heck, I am just dreaming of either one, that darn deluxe would be great but The width across I have is only 90". The deluxe model I think says 105" I don't currently have the equipment for nothing like that. I started my adventure with a Rubbermaid setup. I just don't think it will be large enough. I plan on using my Rubbermaid tub to hold two Moms when I get to that point.





I am checking now to see if my light (400w Pulsar w/enclosed ballast)
w/o direct ducting off light, can be used in the tent w/o heat issues.
Do most use a direct vented light in these tents?
I really just wanted to use one fan to cool & scrub because of noise.

 

[Guest]

I think I'm getting it now. So both the 8' sides have doors? So two sides of the rectangle can be opened? That is pretty handy to have (assuming you don't have one of the sides faced against a wall), makes getting to the back plants a bit easier I suppose.

No you are not getting it yet, again, it has FOUR doors. All four sides open with their own two flaps each, not just the front and back. each door has double zippers, so you can up in from FOUR sides. I dont know how else to say it. It sounds small, but it really makes it easier to get to your stuff, bc you can open the side w/o having to pull the zipper from the front all the way to the side to get to sides, you can just you the smaller side doors. peace_highst

 

[clowntown]

Highst: I think I get it now... but pictures would be much better. You know, those pictures online don't do the HydroHut justice.

Sunset: A Deluxe is way too large for your 400w. A Mini (39" x 39") would be good for that. But you know, if you ever needed the Deluxe (as in, you had ~2kw to run), you'll be able to afford it anyways. Know what I mean?

 

[Guest]

I will get pics of all three, but I still cant find my USB cord, I keep lagging on buying one or finding the missing one.

One 400w would be way too small for the deluxe, I am running 3 600wHPS in my deluxe.
A 400w in the mini would work just fine and 600w would kick ass in the mini. peace_highst

 

[clowntown]

I would have gotten the Mini for my 600w and a smaller reflector, but I really, really wanted this Silver Star reflector (won't fit comfortably if you take into consideration the room taken by ducting and airflow, even if using two 90deg elbows). Plus I wanted some extra space for a (floor/oscillating) fan, without too much cramming.

One day I'm hoping to move on to a 1kw grow, and being able to use as much existing equipment as possible. But if these electronic ballasts (got a 600w Lumatek + Hortilux HPS) are that much brighter as they say, then I guess a 47" x 47" wouldn't be too bad afterall.

I love the idea of 3 x 600w in the Deluxe. I bet you're getting as much light as running 2 x 1kw, only without the shading problems and more even coverage. What type/size fan do you have, assuming you're using one fan for A/C'ing the reflectors and venting? Tell us a bit about your HH setups!

PS - Have you run 1kw's before? How does the heat of 3 x 600w compare to 2 x 1kw?

 

[Guest]

I think the one thing everyone should consider when buying a tent is this: The Homebox only has one size, which is roughly equivalent to the HydroHut mini and HydroHut has three sizes. This is bc the plastic that the HomeBox uses probably cant even support a tent of larger size, especially when all these companies are using heavy duty canvas type material, which is pretty heavy on the deluxe. If you used plastic on a frame that big w/ lights, ducting etc. it would probably fail. This shows you that the metal frame is just better than plastica at any size.

I have never run 2 1KW MH in the HH. I run all 248 CFM fans for my intake/exhaust ducting. I am using ebb and flow tables, but I am about to switch over to the "Ebb and Grow" recirculating DWC set-up that uses two two-gallon buckets nested in each other. Its actually the 100% identical set-up as what is pictured in the HH deluxe picture that 'clowntown' posted, 50 gallon res. outsied HH and all, justt like pic.I got the system for free, so I thought I would try it, I was right in the middle of building some Bio-buckets too when I got the Ebb and Grow set-up, so I that doesn't work then I am goint to try the Bio-buckets in the HH. The strains I am working with are Blue Heaven (dj short genes/my favorite), The Purps, Grand Daddy Purple, Purple Kush, Odyssey, Hindu Kush x skunk, blue mystic and some land race seeds from Jamaica that my friend brought me. Thats the update on my Hydro Hut set-up. peace_highst

 

[clowntown]

No, the HomeBox has more sizes (6) than the HydroHut (3). The "HomeBox" (39.5" x 39.5") and the "HomeBox XL" (47" x 47") are the two most popular ones, and ones you'll commonly see retailers sell.

The HomeBox has steel bars, just like the HydroHut. It's just painted white.

It's been mentioned several times before in this thread, but the differences between the HomeBox and the HydroHut are:

• HomeBox has nylon / plastic corners. HydroHut has steel.
• HomeBox has 6" drawstring duct socks, HydroHut has fixed holes (4" on Mini/Original, 6" on Deluxe)
• HomeBox has metal zippers, HydroHut has plastic.

The cover material is identical. They both have removable waterproof floors. They both have a black mesh screen at the intake flaps. They both have steel bars. They both have steel ceiling rods.

 

[Guest]

my bad, I havent scene the bigger sizes around and thought they only had that. I never see the others pictured and have only scene the ones with the plastic bars. I thought I had read the thread start to finish I have been following along.

 

[Sunset]

Oh, no that little 400 I have wouldn't do squat in a deluxe. Need couple 1kw for sure. For that bad boy!
I think I will prolly end up with the Homebox though, available down the street. They have tried to matched any internet price I have found, so I am sure they will on the box too.
I will ask further about my light, maybe I should seriously consider different ballast light system. I am sure I can sell the one I bought for 150.

Peace

 

[clowntown]

You can get the HomeBox XL or HydroHut Original for $250 + free shipping (no tax, if you're not in Michigan I think) so make sure they match that.

 

[Guest]

didn't we discuss how the tent is what matters the most and how a frame could easily be built from stuff found at home depot for around 30$, I mean what are you paying for here a frame or the tent?, I remember in the past building a frame for a grow box out of 2x2's being easy the only hard part was making a cover for the frame.

 

[marley1]

Yeah man. So whats the deal here.

Its like a 50/50 split on which one is better??

Just go for the one thats cheaper or what?

 

[clowntown]

Depends on what fits your size and requirements. It's really a toss-up. Price is same on the HB XL/HH Orig, and I've found most places to have the HH Mini cheaper than the HB Orig.

 

[Guest]

and I've found most places to have the HH Mini cheaper than the HB Orig.

what about the homebox light?

http://www.the-homebox.net/dhtml/product_family_homebox_light.php