Competition GROW CONTEST WINNER: Noreason gardens

[noreason]

I don't like to trim dried flowers. I like to trim fresh and let just the clean flower to dry on a net and then in the bags.

However, here is an OrangeDiesel V.3 from LadySativa dry trimmed. Tried to avoid lollypopping this time and it went bad. Upped buds are smaller and not so compact than the last time. This cut need to be cleaned from little sucker flowers to get a good flower's shape.
However the overall aroma is good and I like it pretty much.

 

[noreason]

Liked so much the bigger sprayer I also get the smaller one named Berry 1,5 (max. 1 liter). Used it for a couple of months now and fuck I love this company, really good stuff.

Sometimes I get some troubles with fungi when cloning with the fogger. Some tips die because of some kind of fungi due to condensation. Not a real problem but I want to see if some kind of natural anti-fungal stuff can avoid this. Target product is botryprot. Will tell if it works on this or not.

Some seedlings from new and old seeds ready for a new life. Now under just 100W fluo, little stretching but it's ok.

And some of the ''eco'' product I use for mites. Rotation is the key, those mofos can't handle it!

Karanja Oil is a good one, but need a good dose of soap/surfactant. Stink a little bit, go away fast.

Red spider is water soluble, no smell at all.

Bioneem is not water soluble, but emulsify good for its own, no smell.

Spruzit is the only one that has a real shock effect on adult stage of mites. Leave some kind of layer on the leaves. Natural pyretryn stay for some days, not so long. No smell. Just one application at 10ml/liters and the mofos are gone. It's the right product to start the rotation with other preventive products.

 

[noreason]

Here a cross made with some friends from France (merci les gars!) bred on the other side of the world and finally ready to smoke!

XXX Kush

 

[franklyweed]

This system is very impressive for my liking. Could some tips be shared on how to develop such?

 

[noreason]

This system is very impressive for my liking. Could some tips be shared on how to develop such?

Thanks F.
You can find almost every info you need scrolling the thread, no rocket science behind it, actually I find it super easy.


3 trays - 3 strains

From left: PCK-Tonic - GreenPoison - Amnesia Core

So fucking different. Fun to work with different strains and see how they react to everything.
For instance when I was cleaning and set the plant under the nets I discovered a couple of hot spot with mites, on the very bottom of the plants, just on two green poison clones. Amnesia and PCK-T had no signs at all, not only one. Green poison is fucking mite sensitive, other good point for it to end in the bin.

Treated everything with 3 liters of natural pyretryn+oil solution. Than I'll keep spraying till first flowers form.

After bending and cleaning the lower side.
Till today I kept lights at min. (3 x 400W) now switched to max. (3 x 660W)

Other room, other stain. ChocoTonic ending flowering. They're now around 70 days. had to switch lights to min (3x400W) from some days because upper buds keep fattening up and mold could damage the inner part of the already big, and more compact buds.
Today I also switched off the solution heater. Tomorrow or in a couple of days I'll switch off the central light. All of this with the hope to speed up the ripening, because I know this strain is capable of keeping flowering till 90 days or more...but it's impossible to avoid mold.

 

[noreason]

Forgot to post these CT pics last time

 

[noreason]

Moms in vegging were too big, so I decided to take some cuts and give'em a good prune, good for the next month to keep'em little.

Used eazyplugs as rooting medium, will see how they work but at now I found'em really easy and fast to use and cheaper compared to root-riot.
They also fit perfectly in the root-riots trays I already had, so super-easy.

Main difference between the two is water. RR comes wet. EP comes dry.
Just 60 seconds to rehydrate with a very light nutritive solution and weighted at the end: 500-550 grams for each tray, like 20 grams for each plug. So this sounds good for me about water/air ratio. Will see in a couple of weeks.


Dry plugs

After flush

Dry and wet

Used a CloneBox by Homebox to have some more space to work.

2 x 110W pl white lights, cheap ones. I'll modify them with quality components to get good efficiency.

 

[noreason]

24 small cuttings in 31x19 cm.

Also testing a new product to avoid tip's rot...in the case

And another one to promote rooting. I wasn't using anything for cuttings since several years. I'm making now a test with this cheap one on 72 cuttings.
I'm not expecting anything but will see.

 

[noreason]

New cuttings are not alone...

And here are the mothers after the prune, cleaned and ready to grow back one more time.

And one last point before go work is about market's hypes... or maybe on how stupid we are...or how smart vendors are.

I remember when I saw for the first time compressed tabs to generate co2 once in contact with water. Sold like for 20 bucks for 30/50 pieces maybe?!?
Someone ensures they work good because co2 for roots is good, someone say they increase atmospheric co2 ppm.

Obviously we don't need any co2 tab, but those tabs are still there, and someone is still buying them and for god sake we have enough already of this shit everywhere you all know, we call it consumerism.

So nothing, let's say I get one of those -Idunnoexactlywhattheycontain- bags called ExhaleCO2 bag. Some sort of amassed organic matter colonized by some kind of fungi, closed in a plastic bag, with a little exit for the air...or well...for the CO2 produced by that fungi decomposing little by little its food.

So, having a CO2 meter too I decided to have some fun measuring how it works. Obviously I placed it in a sealed room, no air exchange but the normal one passing through the little spaces between the door and the wall and maybe from the closed window.

Let's say this bag is sold for 40 euros, someone selling it told me it lasts for 6 months ensuring a level of 1000ppm in a 1square meter growbox, with extractor-fan ON. Just put it in the inline air duct.

So I was expecting a little raise in the CO2 level in the room. Nothing. The bag is not doing nothing.
CO2 monitor is close enough and placed in the perfect place to measure any output from the bag.
Nothing, no changes.

So, I don't know why it's not working and if it will start working.

It seems colonized and the fungi seems to be OK, whitish and healthy. Don't know if it's an issue related to only this bag, from the production, transportation or what else, but what I think 40 euros it's not so much, but they're an huge amount to buy nothing.

Not only a very doubting product because if you have a fan in the growbox is impossible to have such amount of CO2 with just one bag and for 6 months!!! (I used bottled CO2 and I know it) but also it does really nothing.

So we waste a plastic bag, some kind of organic matter like 3 kg, transportation of it, production of it, selling of it, and everything related to it, just to buy nothing and make this world more polluted and some stupid grower with 40 euros less in the pocket, feeding this system more and more.

Where the fuck this world is going? Please noob growers or anybody else, don't trust the fucking market, maybe trust who does it for passion. Let's see the old growers, the good growers how they work and don't buy so many snake oils to feed your plants with or to help'em growing better or producing more, or with a better taste selling it for hundreds of bucks per liter.

Do this favor to yourself, your plants and this already fucked up planet.

Just a couple of pictures...and to be clear. I have nothing against this company, I just tell what I see, along other consideration regarding the WHOLE cannabis market, including seeds and their elite names...

 

[Tudo]

Magnificent

 

[PaulieWaulie]

Well said! I started a year ago, with pro mix and pure blend pro nutrients, and pretty quickly was looking at all the additive supplements that go with their line. ie. SWEET, LIQUID KARMA, HYDROPLEX etc. etc. This community cleared up a lot of those product claims and its actual contents, my common sense kicked in and I decided to not go down that route. I now reuse the same pro mix I bought for my first few runs, for over a year, started my own organic soil mix with local bulk amendments, have a compost and worm bin where all stems, leaves and all other household/human/kitchen/garden wastes go right back in.

So very different style to yours, but my goal is the same, to make as efficient as possible and like a well running machine.

Thanks for the informative posts, keep up the good work!

 

[noreason]

Well said! I started a year ago, with pro mix and pure blend pro nutrients, and pretty quickly was looking at all the additive supplements that go with their line. ie. SWEET, LIQUID KARMA, HYDROPLEX etc. etc. This community cleared up a lot of those product claims and its actual contents, my common sense kicked in and I decided to not go down that route. I now reuse the same pro mix I bought for my first few runs, for over a year, started my own organic soil mix with local bulk amendments, have a compost and worm bin where all stems, leaves and all other household/human/kitchen/garden wastes go right back in.

So very different style to yours, but my goal is the same, to make as efficient as possible and like a well running machine.

Thanks for the informative posts, keep up the good work!

Yeah bro, go organic, go hydro, the plant is the same and it will grow even without biobloomsupermegayielderstimulator! Fucked world we are in!


Harvested ChocoTonic a couple of days ago. There were good things and bad things.

Good things are the yield and the overall quality, it smells good and buds are heavy. No mold at all, even in the bigger buds I didn't find a single trace, just perfect.

Bad thing is I'm not satisfied with the 15min ON - 120min OFF watering timing.
As you can see in the pics, there are many dried leaves. Upper ones.
It's not because the flush.

I think there is something involved with watering timing. This is the second time happen. Not with all the strains happen but the other time was with exodus cheese, same watering schedule.

So at the end I needed to chop everything before dried leaves reach the inner part of the buds, otherwise it would have been a pain in the ass to clean'em with all those crunchy leaves.

Still white stigmas, needed some more days for a full ripe.

Roots didn't go on the tray as they usually do with 15/15 watering schedule.
Trying to reduce the drying of the leaves, the last 2 weeks I reduced light intensity by steps. Nothing, plants didn't stop.
Finally I will switch back to 15/15, feeling it's a better way for this system.

Green vibes

 

[noreason]

Some ODv3 dried and selected buds, cleaned from leaves. Flowers are quite heavy, even if the last run I was not completely satisfied.

New seedlings are growing. In the next days they will be moved from the tray in bigger pots.
At now I used only canna hydro vega A+B and some sodium silicate just one time. Flushed 2 times with 1.2 mS/cm pH 7 (mixed tap and RO water for a total of 0,3 mS/cm)

 

[noreason]

Last pictures of maybe the last Chocotonic harvest.

And a last photo...the first CT mom selected years ago

 

[smokditup]

Stunning. How much typically are you yielding from this space?

 

[noreason]

Vegging Exodus Cheese, the UK cut. Love it. Maybe the one I like more.

Growing with the same Canna A+B and nothing else. 15min. ON - 120min. OFF watering timing.
I'll switch the watering to 15/15 in flowering.

 

[noreason]

Sometimes I use an humidifier to make a fumigation in the grow-box. It works and I save time, water and products. Also, and very important, this way the vapor can reach every corner, no chance for pest.
Not all products are suitable for this. Mainly I use water soluble products. Oils and suspensions in general are not good for the humidifier, forcing the membrane.

Just switch off fans and lights and close the zip.

After a couple of hours

 

[noreason]

Time for a new informative (or at least it try to be) post about coco. I found U-gro company (http://ugrococo.com/) is doing interesting things, trying to having different kind of blends.

So I bought 1x 60 liters compressed brick. It comes in a plastic bag and it could be used as a pot, but it's not my goal.
As you can see it is a blend between peat, fibers and chips.

It should be good for mothers, being in the same medium for a long time, but overall it should keep more oxygen and less water, so I decided to use it mixed with U-gro -pure basic- coco, a regular one, and transplant the new seedlings.


Dry brick in its plastic bag

Chips and fibers are clearly visible

Faster than the regular bricks to adsorb water.

Once it's re-hydrated

 

[noreason]

As I was saying I decided to mix it with -pure basic- coco. It comes from a bag, it's not compressed.
Overall I found coco from bags has a better quality and less ''dust''.

Both compared. Left side the brick, right side the bag.

Once they're mixed adding some washed perlite and some dry microbes, final medium is ready

 

[noreason]

New seedlings

Found very useful these germination trays. A couple of scissors and easy work.

Finally they're in their final pot. Not so big, just 1 liter, but it will be enough to see what comes out from these new plants.