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Hi guys
Great thread I finally caught up and pulled the trigger on five gt fems luckily they were in stock, thanks for the contributions from all, can't wait to get these out among the roos n Gumtree n then try n b patient for the long needed cure and cob. Cheers
 

YukonKronic

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Amazing
I have crossed Golden Tiger with Skunk original and afghan from seedsman.

How did GT perform in those crosses? I'm curious as to ANY tidbit u have in regards to dominant traits passed on as well as amount of phenotypic variation and wether there are commonalities between all the crosses that you attribute to GT.
 

Pédetoddy

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Unge
How did GT perform in those crosses? I'm curious as to ANY tidbit u have in regards to dominant traits passed on as well as amount of phenotypic variation and wether there are commonalities between all the crosses that you attribute to GT.

Mine plants have only 3 weeks of life.
The leaf is broad, (afghan x gt crosss have leaves more fat than pure afghan parental).
The smell is very pungent since first real leaves.
Both crosses have an amazing vigor.
These plants are in a guerrilla grow, next visit i take pictures.
 

YukonKronic

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Anybody else see a possible mag deficiency? I'm a little reluctant to put anything but water in there but I wonder if some more Epsom in the res next time would be good idea? Maybe just a feed with a watering can or a light foliar? I REALLY don't want to spray buds as I've been looking forward to the thought of really super clean weed and I HATE finding shit deposited by foliars in it.
 
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SolarLogos

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You're killing it again Yukon, looking really nice brother! I doubt I can help you on the possible deficiency since I grow in dirt. Anymore, I don't even try to find out if I have a deficiency, I just flush in case of lockout and give half strength nutes and everything is corrected, at least so far I've been lucky.
Peace, God bless
 

YukonKronic

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Ya I'm in 150 gallon soil beds too... to big to flush tho so I have to try and stay on low side with food then time little "extras". I didn't have much kelp or insect frass to topdress with at beginning of run so I'm thinking the odd watering with Epsom would have been good around weeks 4 and 6.... tough to say. My soil temps dropped more than anticipated when I reduced air temp to 20C. Cold soil can also screw with cal and mag I think.
I bumped temperature up to 23C and am watering a little less water more often in effort to keep nutrients cycling efficiently through the detritusphere. Will probably give a very light root drench of Epsom and see if it brings a little green back to the leaves. I don't frickin want fade yet!

It always seems to start a week or two earlier than I plan for... Lol it's beginning to be a mystery I would LOVE to solve. Next time I run GT hopefully reviewing this thread will remind me to try a Mag feed on week 5 and see if that helps.

I don't even have a soil test so it could just as easily be excess P or even Cal locking mag out or maybe it's something entirely different... kind of semantics really as I'm getting pretty happy with GTs performance in my soils. Just one of those things that "gets" ya you know?
 
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jaded1

Ordered up some Ghostrider OG seeds... planning to cross with GT and call it "Hellcat" lol

I've been thinking about an OG/GT cross for the last couple of weeks!Have been smoking the odd mixed joint of GT and josh d og and the effect is bloody strong together.Gave myself a bit of a whitey for the 1st time in years the 1st time I tried it!
 

Mr.Revolution

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Ya I'm in 150 gallon soil beds too... to big to flush tho so I have to try and stay on low side with food then time little "extras". I didn't have much kelp or insect frass to topdress with at beginning of run so I'm thinking the odd watering with Epsom would have been good around weeks 4 and 6.... tough to say. My soil temps dropped more than anticipated when I reduced air temp to 20C. Cold soil can also screw with cal and mag I think.
I bumped temperature up to 23C and am watering a little less water more often in effort to keep nutrients cycling efficiently through the detritusphere. Will probably give a very light root drench of Epsom and see if it brings a little green back to the leaves. I don't frickin want fade yet!

It always seems to start a week or two earlier than I plan for... Lol it's beginning to be a mystery I would LOVE to solve. Next time I run GT hopefully reviewing this thread will remind me to try a Mag feed on week 5 and see if that helps.

I don't even have a soil test so it could just as easily be excess P or even Cal locking mag out or maybe it's something entirely different... kind of semantics really as I'm getting pretty happy with GTs performance in my soils. Just one of those things that "gets" ya you know?

No need to flush. Nature doesn't. Just keep the soil overly saturated and lockout will occur. This combined with lowered lights out temps should do the trick
 

YukonKronic

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No need to flush. Nature doesn't. Just keep the soil overly saturated and lockout will occur. This combined with lowered lights out temps should do the trick

I don't understand... what trick am I trying to do? My issue is that fade begins to set in a week or more early most runs and I'm hypothesizing possible reasons. One reason was a mag deficiency because it looked visually similar, however considering I did in fact include a Epsom in my water reservoir I wonder if it's a case of lockout rather than deficiency in the soil. Thus my pondering of possible reasons for a lockout and ideas to fix it or if I should even bother...

Do you mean keep the roots wet so they lockout and cause plant to yellow? Don't even think I could... I have very well draining soils that hold moisture within the soil itself... excess water is drained out bottom of box immediately. I end up watering every two or three days heavily and do all right but if I had automatic watering to do slow constant watering I think I would be pulling insane growth rates and yields

I have done every day watering as well as twice a day and it was great but too much effort.. I really want a sprayer system set up with a timer so I can water once every few days and keep it moist up top with a couple or three mistings a day..
 

SolarLogos

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GT5 has come down. Half is hanging, the other half curing. She finished earlier than the others. I took half when the trichomes were mostly all cloudy, no amber. The other half I took when there was about 20% amber.
Here is GT4. She must be the Thai pheno. She has floppy branches like vines that are covered in smaller buds. She is about 30% amber trichomes now. I'll take her down today if I have time.
The next, GT2 is almost identical to GT5 that just came down, just a little smaller. I think she is ready to come down; her calyxes are as swollen as they are going to get, but still very little ambers and still about 20% trichomes are still clear though. She has been in flush and outer leaves yellowing. I may go a few days longer, not exactly sure right now.

I don't count weeks because nature flipped them into flower, not me so I'm going by looks and trichomes. When do you all harvest yours for maximum potency, cerebral effect?
Peace, God bless
 

YukonKronic

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GT5 has come down. Half is hanging, the other half curing. She finished earlier than the others. I took half when the trichomes were mostly all cloudy, no amber. The other half I took when there was about 20% amber.
Here is GT4. She must be the Thai pheno. She has floppy branches like vines that are covered in smaller buds. She is about 30% amber trichomes now. I'll take her down today if I have time.[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=78057&pictureid=1903179&thumb=1]View Image[/URL] [URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=78057&pictureid=1903180&thumb=1]View Image[/URL]
The next, GT2 is almost identical to GT5 that just came down, just a little smaller. I think she is ready to come down; her calyxes are as swollen as they are going to get, but still very little ambers and still about 20% trichomes are still clear though. She has been in flush and outer leaves yellowing. I may go a few days longer, not exactly sure right now.

I don't count weeks because nature flipped them into flower, not me so I'm going by looks and trichomes. [URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=78057&pictureid=1903177&thumb=1]View Image[/URL] [URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=78057&pictureid=1903178&thumb=1]View Image[/URL] When do you all harvest yours for maximum potency, cerebral effect?
Peace, God bless

Many of the cloudy trichomes turn amber during cure for me... I tend to harvest when she only spits a pistil or two at a time and all but newest calyxes are swollen. Usually its a "window" of about four or five days and then u notice the plant somehow seems a little less "full of life" and the smell and resin stop increasing. My "perfect" harvest would be to catch the plant a day before she reached that zenith of smell and resins. Probably if your at 20% clear and calyxes are swollen your close... I would give it a feel and a sniff and decide if it's any more or less odiferous than a day or two ago and look again at how much pistils/weight it will even manage to put on if you leave it. If it's pretty much done producing then 20% clear is going to be perfect for a nice rushing cerebral effect I think..
 

SolarLogos

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Thanks Yukon, I really appreciate your input. I'm still new at growing pure sativa. I have been monitoring them closely, but haven't noticed any change in the past 4 or 5 days. The calyxe's on her and one of my Malawi are very swollen and seem to engulf the brown hairs to the point you can hardly see some of the brown hairs, but they do still have a few white hairs still left on them. Not exactly as easy to determine the right time to chop for me as compared to other plants I've grown.
Thanks again for your valuable input my friend, greatly appreciated.
Peace, God bless
 

YukonKronic

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I believe this one went about a week longer but you can see that yours has more withered pistils and resins look similarly cloudy... this bud is about 15days slow dried and already smokes with a nice citric (little more Limey this run) flavour and STRONG cerebral high... little trippy already too... does your plant smell like orange pekoe tea and have a sandpaper texture to the sugar leaves? If it's the pheno I think it is your in for a really sublime treat. Creamy bready mandarin terps and possibly the most Irie least anxious pheno I found in terms of effect. Really "I'm happy on my bicycle in the sunshine" kind of feeling.
 

YukonKronic

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Thanks Yukon, I really appreciate your input. I'm still new at growing pure sativa. I have been monitoring them closely, but haven't noticed any change in the past 4 or 5 days. The calyxe's on her and one of my Malawi are very swollen and seem to engulf the brown hairs to the point you can hardly see some of the brown hairs, but they do still have a few white hairs still left on them. Not exactly as easy to determine the right time to chop for me as compared to other plants I've grown.
Thanks again for your valuable input my friend, greatly appreciated.
Peace, God bless

The way they swallow up the pistil is a good indication that the calyx is fully swollen. After that the resins bulk up and ripen a bit more. The trick is to balance the number of swollen ripened calyxes with those that are not. The longer flowering a variety the more variation in calyxes you tend to have to the point where eventually your harvesting with some fresh calyxes to save all the old ones from getting overripe.
If there's been no change for days I would consider a cut considering the closeness to end of cycle I see a four day lull as the plant "hanging on" before it finally gives up and begins the process of dying.
 

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