Golden Tiger
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Hi Vaporbud,
Really beautiful characteristic thai leaves with the very separated leaflets!
I think you are having a feeding problem with your sativas in the last weeks .... they are yellowing a lot for early flowering stage, looks like the ph is not balanced (probably too high) or the pot is lacking of nutrients (or both).
How is the ph of your soil and in your waterings ? What's the ec in your waterings and feedings ?
Your Haze x Kali China is even showing the problem in a more serious way.
Please, check it out so you can hopefully correct the problem, it would be a pitty to see you don't get the best from your sativas after all the wait and effort.
Best regards!
Really beautiful characteristic thai leaves with the very separated leaflets!
I think you are having a feeding problem with your sativas in the last weeks .... they are yellowing a lot for early flowering stage, looks like the ph is not balanced (probably too high) or the pot is lacking of nutrients (or both).
How is the ph of your soil and in your waterings ? What's the ec in your waterings and feedings ?
Your Haze x Kali China is even showing the problem in a more serious way.
Please, check it out so you can hopefully correct the problem, it would be a pitty to see you don't get the best from your sativas after all the wait and effort.
Best regards!
YukonKronic
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Hi YukonKronic
Glad to read your Golden Tiger lady is evoking you so many things! I can feel you have really passion and connection with your plants.
To answer your question, your female is showing classic traits for a Malawi/Thai hybrid, it has the overall look and structure of Malawi, with the elegant, lankier Thai influence and tinner leaves. Hope she is doing fine since the last update!
Hey thanks Dubi... I really do love my plants. I've been meaning to tell you that your work with cannabis is really inspired. I might come off as a bit of a fanboy sometimes but it's because of what I owe to the cannabis you and your team have bred.
I'm not exaggerating when I say that GT and Zamaldelica have changed my life in a deep and profound way. I've struggled through a half dozen different pharmaceutical drugs for PTSD depression and anxiety as well as self medicating with commercially available marijuana. None of it was working until I tried a Thai strain from a dispensary that changed everything.... I felt like a teenager again! I loved it but couldn't rely on the dispensary to have it in stock and it was prohibitively expensive.
So I began searching for a Thai strain that would last all day and I could grow in less than 6 months flowering.. I found icmag and ThaiBliss and madmac and was convinced to try GT. The rest as they say is history! I am eternally grateful to this community and hope that I can contribute even an iota as much as those who have come before (ya madmac someone DID care about your posts! Me!)
Here's how my "hedge" of GT is going... about six weeks in I think... growing her next to hybrids again I gotta quit that or the leaves will never stop clawing! Lol I also pushed her cause I was excited about my home made fish hydrolysate and yarrow FPE... ooops.
YukonKronic
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I started a monocrop of GT in other flower box. Currently on 14/10 as I train them into an even canopy. I might scrog but height limits make it hard to keep it clean under screen when I do this so im leaning towards a lot of stakes and then a screen mid to late stretch to hold up any long colas...
There's 7 clones in there and I plan on leaving them until I'm confident the root zone is REALLY full of roots even if it means multiple prunings to control the jungle vibes.
Hoping to flip it in about two weeks maybe three at most. If all goes well I can start posting pics of a 42 inch square SCROG of GT under 600 watts HID and 210 watts of screw in LED with about 120 gallon living soil bed fed from local rock dust glacial till and homemade plant and fish fertilizers...
Supplementing potsil fulvic Bvitamins every water until last two or three weeks. Also using aloe and young coconut. Two foliars in preflower one during mid stretch and one right at end of stretch then nothing but clean water on buds. I like feeding some fish hydrolysate and yarrow and/or dandelion FPE as root drench a day or two before foliars to make sure there's lots of fuel for cell division the coconut (I think) should be stimulating.
I topdress (light) bonemeal and fishbone with a little kelp and bokashi grain week before flip and then again mid stretch sometimes I add bat guano if it's closer to end of stretch.
It should be stressed that I have a lot of soil and I have put lots of work into giving it a high CEC and (trying) keeping that CEC highly saturated with calcium (slow nickel might be on to something... I don't claim to understand all of what he says but once I paid attention to keeping a lot of multiple sources of calcium available my vigour and yield went up, then I had iron and mg deficiencies as my plants ate everything they could get and pumped it into correcting the N deficit the calcium shortage was causing... Ca was causing my entire N cycle to underperform so much that as soon as I fixed it iron and mg became the limiting factors). This means I have a little more leeway to feed as my soil web can both soak in some extra nutrition but also has enough secondary nutrients available to allow the plants to work hard at eating when they feel like it.
I feed very lightly because I feed multiple times during cycle and foliars are always meant to supplement secondary metabolic functions to allow better primary nutrition through roots. Even with this approach it is taking work to get each plant to thrive at its own speed without impacting its neighbors.
Fun stuff.
There's 7 clones in there and I plan on leaving them until I'm confident the root zone is REALLY full of roots even if it means multiple prunings to control the jungle vibes.
Hoping to flip it in about two weeks maybe three at most. If all goes well I can start posting pics of a 42 inch square SCROG of GT under 600 watts HID and 210 watts of screw in LED with about 120 gallon living soil bed fed from local rock dust glacial till and homemade plant and fish fertilizers...
Supplementing potsil fulvic Bvitamins every water until last two or three weeks. Also using aloe and young coconut. Two foliars in preflower one during mid stretch and one right at end of stretch then nothing but clean water on buds. I like feeding some fish hydrolysate and yarrow and/or dandelion FPE as root drench a day or two before foliars to make sure there's lots of fuel for cell division the coconut (I think) should be stimulating.
I topdress (light) bonemeal and fishbone with a little kelp and bokashi grain week before flip and then again mid stretch sometimes I add bat guano if it's closer to end of stretch.
It should be stressed that I have a lot of soil and I have put lots of work into giving it a high CEC and (trying) keeping that CEC highly saturated with calcium (slow nickel might be on to something... I don't claim to understand all of what he says but once I paid attention to keeping a lot of multiple sources of calcium available my vigour and yield went up, then I had iron and mg deficiencies as my plants ate everything they could get and pumped it into correcting the N deficit the calcium shortage was causing... Ca was causing my entire N cycle to underperform so much that as soon as I fixed it iron and mg became the limiting factors). This means I have a little more leeway to feed as my soil web can both soak in some extra nutrition but also has enough secondary nutrients available to allow the plants to work hard at eating when they feel like it.
I feed very lightly because I feed multiple times during cycle and foliars are always meant to supplement secondary metabolic functions to allow better primary nutrition through roots. Even with this approach it is taking work to get each plant to thrive at its own speed without impacting its neighbors.
Fun stuff.
Hi Vaporbud,
Really beautiful characteristic thai leaves with the very separated leaflets!
I think you are having a feeding problem with your sativas in the last weeks .... they are yellowing a lot for early flowering stage, looks like the ph is not balanced (probably too high) or the pot is lacking of nutrients (or both).
How is the ph of your soil and in your waterings ? What's the ec in your waterings and feedings ?
Your Haze x Kali China is even showing the problem in a more serious way.
Please, check it out so you can hopefully correct the problem, it would be a pitty to see you don't get the best from your sativas after all the wait and effort.
Best regards!
Thank You for your spot on observations dubi.
I don't know the pH of the soil. I will check that. The water is at right about 7. The well water I am using highly mineralized. The meter I used some time ago showed a tds of about 600-800. I think it could be that I have build up and lock out from that?
I have an RO system that just needs plumbing. I am thinking I should repair the system which has a 45 gallon res and then flush the crap out of them for starters. What do you think?
Hi YukonKronic,
Thanks a lot for your kind words
I'm really happy that our genetics and work are helping you to produce your own good medicine.
I was about to tell you to do a flush and lower down a bit the nitrogen in the feeding of your Golden Tiger in flowering, but keep strong with the PK so they can keep reflowering. The closeup of the bud looks great for just 6 weeks of flowering.
The planning of the new GT indoor monocrop sounds great.
Golden Tiger is a very vigorous strain, it reacts very well to pruning and bending, grows very fast, produces also huge amounts of roots in a very short time.. so it is a very suitable sativa strain for your indoor SCROG. And yes, when you are growing a new sativa strain for the first time is better to feed softly until you learn her limits.
Thanks for your detailed posts and for your support!
Thanks a lot for your kind words
I'm really happy that our genetics and work are helping you to produce your own good medicine.
I was about to tell you to do a flush and lower down a bit the nitrogen in the feeding of your Golden Tiger in flowering, but keep strong with the PK so they can keep reflowering. The closeup of the bud looks great for just 6 weeks of flowering.
The planning of the new GT indoor monocrop sounds great.
Golden Tiger is a very vigorous strain, it reacts very well to pruning and bending, grows very fast, produces also huge amounts of roots in a very short time.. so it is a very suitable sativa strain for your indoor SCROG. And yes, when you are growing a new sativa strain for the first time is better to feed softly until you learn her limits.
Thanks for your detailed posts and for your support!
YukonKronic
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Awwww jeeez man of COURSE I want a GT breeders pack but it's gonna take over my life! Lol would LOVE to play with some distinct breeding lines of GT considering I'm turning into an obsessive compulsive pollen chucker... I've already been imagining the strength and flavour of a Kali China cross to the really creamy mandarin wispy pheno of GT
I once let that pheno veg under drought stress all summer in a 5 gallon pail.... she got only about 28 inches tall but with crazy tight internodes and bushy branching. Then I transplanted the root ball on its side in my soil box and let the plant shoot for the sky on stretch. At about 70% thru stretch I trimmed EVERY branch that didn't sprout from top of stem directly towards the light.
I also staked her out flatter and lollipopped all the leads so there would be no larf close to the (now horizontal) meristem.. in return that one plant filled more than half my box with great long wispy spears of really sublime smoke... almost bready or cheesy it had such a thick creamy aspect to its smoke and a really soft sweet candy mandarin flavour on exhale.
The advice on nitrogen is good! Unfortunately I'm either set now or screwed cause the topdress is already decomposed into worm cast and even if I DID try a massive flush through on 150 gallons of soil it would likely just annihilate what's left of my floor (old building... floor needs replacement before winter.... so like next week.)
Fortunately I do find Nitrogen often runs short right about now in this box as I generally only feed a little preferring instead to try and keep large amounts of phos and calcium at all times. Although I am trying to get away from adding too much P until flowering as I would prefer greater utilization of the mycorrhizae in my soil and I have found (like others) that it colonizes much slower in a high P environment.
Mycorrhizal growth is another reason I switched to using predominantly fish hydrolysate and fish bone meal to feed as these products in conjunction with brown sugar or molasses are great for mycos.
Interestingly (or not I guess) I was just discussing feed with Tangwena and iterated to him that I don't think I've ever fed the GT as much as I am this run.. I do see some signs of nute burning on a few leaves so I'm hoping I backed off soon enough and she's just going to bitch for a few days before getting back to work on some chonkers for me.
That said I don't really recall last time she put weight on so fast at this stage. Love it when a day or two makes it look like a different plant
I once let that pheno veg under drought stress all summer in a 5 gallon pail.... she got only about 28 inches tall but with crazy tight internodes and bushy branching. Then I transplanted the root ball on its side in my soil box and let the plant shoot for the sky on stretch. At about 70% thru stretch I trimmed EVERY branch that didn't sprout from top of stem directly towards the light.
I also staked her out flatter and lollipopped all the leads so there would be no larf close to the (now horizontal) meristem.. in return that one plant filled more than half my box with great long wispy spears of really sublime smoke... almost bready or cheesy it had such a thick creamy aspect to its smoke and a really soft sweet candy mandarin flavour on exhale.
The advice on nitrogen is good! Unfortunately I'm either set now or screwed cause the topdress is already decomposed into worm cast and even if I DID try a massive flush through on 150 gallons of soil it would likely just annihilate what's left of my floor (old building... floor needs replacement before winter.... so like next week.)
Fortunately I do find Nitrogen often runs short right about now in this box as I generally only feed a little preferring instead to try and keep large amounts of phos and calcium at all times. Although I am trying to get away from adding too much P until flowering as I would prefer greater utilization of the mycorrhizae in my soil and I have found (like others) that it colonizes much slower in a high P environment.
Mycorrhizal growth is another reason I switched to using predominantly fish hydrolysate and fish bone meal to feed as these products in conjunction with brown sugar or molasses are great for mycos.
Interestingly (or not I guess) I was just discussing feed with Tangwena and iterated to him that I don't think I've ever fed the GT as much as I am this run.. I do see some signs of nute burning on a few leaves so I'm hoping I backed off soon enough and she's just going to bitch for a few days before getting back to work on some chonkers for me.
That said I don't really recall last time she put weight on so fast at this stage. Love it when a day or two makes it look like a different plant
YukonKronic
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I love my golden kitty cat plants so much
YukonKronic
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A spear from the wispy mandarin cream pheno
Have you any close ups of the bud? Just love looking up close to see the all the goodies.
YukonKronic
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I'll have to look... that's a kind of old pic so I'm not entirely sure I still have close shots of that one
YukonKronic
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So following is drybud shot of current pheno not the spear... sorry. I do have some shots of the wispy (only if you keep her small!) mandarin cream plant as it produced those spears..
YukonKronic
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Spears being forged.
YukonKronic
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Here's my current "hedge" of GT
Sorry for upside down pic. I'm not into figuring out how to fix them yet
Sorry for upside down pic. I'm not into figuring out how to fix them yet
YukonKronic
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Missed one
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GatorGumbo
You might be too far along to try back building those long colas, but it would help fill in small gaps within the "wispy" bud pattern, and it would make them slightly more dense as well. It's kind of cool though, reminds me of a Mr. Nice Spice I had a while ago. Was easy to just break their little stems and pop them in a bowl.
YukonKronic
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Back building? Can you elaborate please? I'm guessing maybe you mean crunching stems to build scar tissue.. if so I've heard it referred to as supercropping and I already practice it. I've found that GT just kind of ignores all but the hardest super cropping and the only thing I've been able to do to reduce the stretch to keep solid colas is restrict roots and reduce temps both of which negatively impact the plants too much for me to want to do.
This next run is getting veggged in with a 10 hour dark period whereas before I have gone 24 hours light straight to 12/12. I believe reducing the gap between vegetative dark period and flowering dark period will help the plants switch over with less frantic stretching thus tightening up the internodes in my colas. I'm also hoping that with the reduction in stretch I will be safe to veg them in longer and get a fuller, more even canopy before feeling forced to flower by inevitable height problems later.
If you were referring to the dried "spear" and pics of her flowering then I should tell you that was the "tightest" flower formations I ever got from that pheno. She just liked being a feather head and nothing convinced her it was worth changing, it took an entire summer of Veg outside in a 5 gallon pail just to get her to give me those spears! Although... they were pretty special.
