Getting bullied= Commiting S*icide?

[InvisibleEmpire]

Death is something that happens, it is all around us, and it is the
only thing that makes life valuable. If we knew we all would live
forever, then life would have no value.

The paradox is -->> this is exactly how the majority of the Western
World lives, in death-denial.

But, if you observe how nature works without the BS filters in your mind,
you will notice that death is a perfectly "natural" thing, and it is not
any better or worse than anything else...it just "is."

If you are aware every moment of your life that you will die, in other
words, you practice Death-Awareness, and make this a habit, then
you will not care about the 99.9% of the BS that happens around you,
because you will be focused on what is important!

Check out this video, it explains about Death-Awareness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzXkYGeYFOo

...you only start to "truly live" when you are aware that Death is
your only friend, and will always deliver what it promises you!

...Death is the only GUARANTEE we have in life!

And this is not some BS to scare anyone, it is simply what is.

What if extra-terrestrials exist, and fly to our planet 20 years from now and provide some miracle treatment in which it means we never die?

I truly believe I will see the 'end times' as the bible dictates...so, if that happens, I will not see 'death'.

It's all relative, based on what you personally believe...it is not a fact that everyone dies because...many of us are alive...and until every single person dies, it remains not a fact...when the last person dies, the fact that "Everyone dies" becomes true, but nobody will be here to care




Though, on a more non-confrontational note, death is something many people are afraid of and don't understand. Once you accept that death will probably come, you begin to live, yes...

It is perfectly okay to mourn and want to avoid it all costs because it is everything you, as a being, know...so...to lose that...is to lose everything...so why are you saying its only natural to just openly accept this? It's just the exact opposite...our instincts tell us to avoid death, escape it, fight to live...and when a loved one dies, sadness overcomes us because we miss what they were. You have to come face to face with death to understand it's true implications. I found that fact out after being robbed at gunpoint and pistol whipped over 10 times and had a 50% chance of surviving without brain surgery....

 

[southflorida]

More nonsense. If that was true than animal's lives would have no value because they don't understand death.

JF, all your posts sound like you are 10 years old, and I believe that
icmag is a forum for grown ups...okay? This means that you should
stop skipping school, and go learn something. Or are you hiding at
home because you are getting bullied in school? If others continue
to give answers to your retarded responses, it is their problem, but,
from as of this moment, you will be ignored by me.

 

[FoxxyDoe]

This we should have known was coming, karma for making people slaves will eventually turn the tables in some way, even if on a whole nation. sorry if off topic

You made people slaves? I never have...do I have to suffer for it too?
These "slaves" are dishing out punishment for things our ancestors did? Kinda reminds me of how we are paying for Eve's sins she committed in the garden of Eden... personal I never like that kinda of logic.

 

[southflorida]

What if extra-terrestrials exist, and fly to our planet 20 years from now and provide some miracle treatment in which it means we never die?

I truly believe I will see the 'end times' as the bible dictates...so, if that happens, I will not see 'death'.

It's all relative, based on what you personally believe...it is not a fact that everyone dies because...many of us are alive...and until every single person dies, it remains not a fact...when the last person dies, the fact that "Everyone dies" becomes true, but nobody will be here to care

Though, on a more non-confrontational note, death is something many people are afraid of and don't understand. Once you accept that death will probably come, you begin to live, yes...

It is perfectly okay to mourn and want to avoid it all costs because it is everything you, as a being, know...so...to lose that...is to lose everything...so why are you saying its only natural to just openly accept this? It's just the exact opposite...our instincts tell us to avoid death, escape it, fight to live...and when a loved one dies, sadness overcomes us because we miss what they were. You have to come face to face with death to understand it's true implications. I found that fact out after being robbed at gunpoint and pistol whipped over 10 times and had a 50% chance of surviving without brain surgery....

I wrote this from the perspective that there are natural laws that
the majority of humanity agrees on...lol

...in reality...there is no death...just as there is no birth...all we have
is the present moment awareness...this is all there is.

...everything else is ego...and a delusion.

Truth exists...untruth does not.

What we as humans can observe is an "experience" that is
happening at the present moment. There is never anything else.
NEVER.

Any thoughts we think about the past or the future, ALWAYS
happen in the present moment. Everything ONLY happens in the
present moment...and can "never" be in any other way.

What I am saying I know to be 100% true, and every human being
can see this for him-or herself.

Now, the thing the majority of folks can't and don't understand, and
most likely never will...is that there is no "them" and never has been,
all there is -- is this "present-moment-consciousness" that is
happening.

The delusion is that we are seperated from this "happening-
experience" -- and this delusion is created by the ego. The ego
creates an internal dialogue inside a person's head, and thought
forms are created, i.e., opinions, beliefs, convictions, memories, etc.

...the emotional energy (universe/consciousness) is chanelled through
these thought forms and a person thinks he exists. This is the
delusion.

Once this energy is re-focused on observing the truth, the person
disappears, and all that is left is what always has been...

..."one-nondual-universal-consciousness-experience-awareness"

...or in a simpler way...the "happening"

 

[Japanfreakier]

JF, all your posts sound like you are 10 years old, and I believe that
icmag is a forum for grown ups...okay? This means that you should
stop skipping school, and go learn something. Or are you hiding at
home because you are getting bullied in school? If others continue
to give answers to your retarded responses, it is their problem, but,
from as of this moment, you will be ignored by me.

Does anybody in your life stand still long enough to listen to your bullshit? I doubt it and I bet your family isn't tired of life, just your nonsense.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Many mammals and birds do understand death, pain, and many other complex emotions. I can think of many examples, but for me the best was my mothers dogs. My mother had 2 golden retriever named Jack and Jill. One day Jack ate a pack of AA batteries and rolled down the hill.... and died. Jill was depressed for the rest of her life.

Also when I was a kid and I cried my Chesapeake Bay Retriever would always come and put his head on my lap or feet.

When one of my little sisters was a baby and would cry my cat would scratch at the door until you opened it, jump in the crib and lay down and purr and my sister would stop crying.

my parents parrot is extremely jealous and hates anyone who my dad gives affection too other than him. One of his wife's little dogs attacks any other animal around that is getting more attention.

My neighbors dog pushed their kid out of the way of a freaking car. dont tell me that dog didnt understand what would happen.

Swans mate for life, and morn death

oh yes and of course dont forget, humans are just animals

 

[rocket high]

an adult who let them selves get bullied has unsolved childhood issues still.

bullsh*t... people who have never been bullied as a child can be bullied as a adult.. ive seen it happen and the bullies are usually people in a boss/supervisors position and rule by fear .
it's disgusting.

 

[Japanfreakier]

Happens a lot here

 

[rocket high]

it happens a lot here too but isnt as high profile as teen bullying but its still bullying and that in itself isnt acceptable.

 

[anyany]

Coming from personal experience, all a small guy, that gets picked on, needs to do is grow some balls for half a second. Just long enough for a nice drop kick to the knee cap, and a quick open hand jab to the throat as they come down.

The bigger and heavier the ass hole picking on you is the easier that knee joint folds back the wrong way. and the harder they come down on your hand which is being forced up pretty fucking hard at their throat.

next squeeze hand shut on throat while free hand forces bullies face down into your knee cap, table, wall, water fountain, or most preferably your a filled urinal.

you might get suspended, but you wont get picked on ever again, and you will probably have the confidence to go get laid at that point too. Plus the bully will totally think before he act next time, and thus become a more respectful person. It's a win win


and always remember kids, if you have good control over some ones airways, then you have good control over them. hahaha

That's just about the dumbest advice that could be given. Fights are absolutely nothing like that, you can't reason out some stupid plans before hand. Your advice would just get the poor kid destroyed.

 

[ibjamming]

I just read this entire thread and now I feel like killing myself.

No seriously though. This thread explains a lot just in the ways of different people. Some people have problems in their head. And I'm not talking about the people killing themselves. I mean there is in many people a complete lack of empathy. Not just empathy but the ability to understand the motives behind other people, and understand their lives. And if you're not one of these people they can make it very hard to exist around them, and trying to talk to them about it is usually futile.

Problems always appear overly simple to those whose minds cannot grasp the full spectrum of the equation.

Their answers are seldom nuanced. More likely "Just do it.", "Kick his ass!", "Fuck 'em.", "Everything happens for a reason", "Deal with it.", etc.

Well you DO have to "deal with it". People need to stand up for themselves...it's that simple. If you can't or won't...well, I don't know what to say...but good luck.

Perhaps he is comparing kids from today to kids from past generations?
If you cant figure that out by yourself you should probably not make failed sarcastic attempts at humor.

He makes a valid point...how far back do we need to go before kids are "different".

That's just about the dumbest advice that could be given. Fights are absolutely nothing like that, you can't reason out some stupid plans before hand. Your advice would just get the poor kid destroyed.

Yup...they'd wait for you somewhere and drown you in the river... You'd have won the battle but lost the war.

Actually, you have to do something that they think is cool. You then become one of them...and they'll find someone else to bully.

 

[headband 707]

bullsh*t... people who have never been bullied as a child can be bullied as a adult.. ive seen it happen and the bullies are usually people in a boss/supervisors position and rule by fear .
it's disgusting.

You know life and ppl are full of bad dayz and bad decisions from one moment to the next. Sometimes we say things in the heat of anger that we don't mean and we just don't know how to take those things back without sounding or percieving to sound weak. And in this lies the rub as you actually sound like a "better" person when you can see your mistakes and apologize for them. It is HUMAN to have feeling it is how we express these feeling that is the key. It's one thing to say yes I'm a great person and in public to act like a saint.. It's a whole different ball game when you pull back all the layers and you still have "bullshit". Kinda like when your feed how well our Gov./Education/Economy is doing lol peace out Headband707

 

[supermanlives]

cyber bullying, are you kidding me some people are such pussies.

 

[southflorida]

You know life and ppl are full of bad dayz and bad decisions from one moment to the next. Sometimes we say things in the heat of anger that we don't mean and we just don't know how to take those things back without sounding or percieving to sound weak. And in this lies the rub as you actually sound like a "better" person when you can see your mistakes and apologize for them. It is HUMAN to have feeling it is how we express these feeling that is the key. It's one thing to say yes I'm a great person and in public to act like a saint.. It's a whole different ball game when you pull back all the layers and you still have "bullshit". Kinda like when your feed how well our Gov./Education/Economy is doing lol peace out Headband707

This is why I like the philosophy of "shit happens." It might seem
irresponsible from one side, but folks...shit does simply happen!

If we each had a nickel for every time we said, "Why the F*CK
did I do that or said that?" -- we all would be millionaires!

...this is why it is useful to remember that other people are just
like you, and with them shit also just happens. They do and say
the stupidest shit, and don't know why they do or say it.

This is why remembering that we are all going to die one day helps,
it is something that we all have in common, no matter how different we are!

 

[headband 707]

cyber bullying, are you kidding me some people are such pussies.

I know you can't see this but this is me shaking my keyboard wildly in your FACE!!!!! jk LOL LOL peace out Headband707

 

[Cookie monster]

He makes a valid point...how far back do we need to go before kids are "different".

Probably as little as 20 or so years I'd imagine, kids today are under a lot more pressure than most of us when we were kids.

 

[Hydrosun]

Probably as little as 20 or so years I'd imagine, kids today are under a lot more pressure than most of us when we were kids.

BS. There is no more pressure on kids today than 40 or 60 years ago. In fact I would argue the exact opposite and say that on average kids today are a lot softer and more coddled than previous generations.

What pressure? Tim and Tiffany get a new car at 16 college paid for and move back into mom and dads house if they can't handle the real world.

Perhaps kids today can't cope as well as previous generations, not because there is more pressure, but because there is more acceptance of their failure and they are told a 7th place ribbon is wonderful. Then one day the world smacks them in the face and they learn real quick that smoke blown up their ass by soft adults hasn't prepared them for anything.

 

[southflorida]

BS. There is no more pressure on kids today than 40 or 60 years ago. In fact I would argue the exact opposite and say that on average kids today are a lot softer and more coddled than previous generations.

What pressure? Tim and Tiffany get a new car at 16 college paid for and move back into mom and dads house if they can't handle the real world.

Perhaps kids today can't cope as well as previous generations, not because there is more pressure, but because there is more acceptance of their failure and they are told a 7th place ribbon is wonderful. Then one day the world smacks them in the face and they learn real quick that smoke blown up their ass by soft adults hasn't prepared them for anything.

...very f*cking true! The bigger the illusion, the harder the fall.

 

[arcticsun]

...my older daughter tried killing herself a year ago, and the only
thing she said was that she was tired of this "bull-shit" -- and
when I asked her what she means by this bullshit...she said...life!

Your way of talking about this seems a bit detached. I bet my ass that your "shit happens" illusion would be shattered if your daughter really did kill herself? Maybe you would wake up to the fact that actions has consequences, you keep talking this bullshit about how there is only the present moment. Would you have asked yourself if there was something you could have done to stop it if she had succeeded, if not, then thats not normal! It appears to me that are somewhat detatched from reality and that your lack of empathy and "presence" in the world that the rest of us seems to share may be reason enough why your girl would want to kill herself. Maybe she is testing to see if you really care, or if you will just shrug and go "shit happens".


Shit happens for a reason, always for a reason! It goes like this, Action --> REACTION!!! Your girl attempts suicide and you dont react, how would you think that feels? I think you have some issues man, seriously!

 

[supermanlives]

i will kick your internet ass LOL