Genetics of new G13haze and Amnesia Haze in Holland after 2000's.

[madalasatori]

God of dank have you tried Original Amnesia from Dinafem? Curious as I had order a fem 3 pack for shits and gigs.

I grew it extensively after I found an amazing plant in a freebie seed. There’s some excellent plants in there. The one I found and never got back was incense peppery haze with tiny trichs but there’s other keepers in there too, some of which are first class

 

[NEED 4 SEED]

Who is "Zeno" and where can I find his quotes?

this also

this pheno won several cups.
i saw a lot amnesia haze passed by but nothing came nearby .
i heared that soma lost this one(busted that time) and hypro also.they sellected a new amnesia haze and is also a very beatiful one but this pheno is more potential(in my eyes).
its in my stable for 10 years and i hope for 10 more years.
i have made a few crosses with it.
g13/amnesia haze(won 2nd price @highlife)dampkring
g13 haze( 2 years ago 2nd and last year 1rst @ hightimes)(amnesia haze x g13 haze backcrossed with g13 haze)2 different pheno s for barneys
the thing is i do not want a seedcompany,but my seeds are @ 2 shops for sale.
in that way it stays a hobby for me.
i hope to make better pic s and for sure i make macro s in a few weeks.
also busy with:
-afghanx g13 haze(c)
-a5 mango haze x g13 haze(c)
-big bud
-timewarp x headstash(texada timewarp x peterolia headstash)
-topdawg
-silvercheese(c)
-lucky 7(amnesia haze x g13 haze x amnesia haze)(c)
-purple pineberry
-africansondo, toa-ry,swazi roibaart
-grapefruit
i am working to stabelise the amnesia haze (1 line amnesia dom. the other line g13 dom.)
in future i will place some pictures of it.
greetings zeno

 

[AstroTHC]

Who is "Zeno" and where can I find his quotes?

Icmag member...on old threads here at ICmag.

 

[AstroTHC]

Also famous breeder with his buddy Ronnie B.
the thing is i do not want a seedcompany,but my seeds are @ 2 shops for sale.
in that way it stays a hobby for me.
He made crosses for big number of seed compnies but people dont know that.
Somas,Barney,WhiteLabel,buddah...

 

[AstroTHC]

These are one of the top breeders in NL after femm. tehnology and polenchuking is accepted everywhere today every body can make his seed company i dont buy seeds last few years all lines are renamed and the same ,in next 20 years we will have totaly destroyed cannabis genepoll. But this is topic for another thread.

I just want to make light on genetic of best cut i smoked in my life original Amnesia Haze from 98. close to it are Neville Haze phenos,SSH sat phenos(cut i have),NL5haze and old Neville stock hazes.
But real Ammo 98 is still on top.
And to say that Soma and boys like that have only luck for heving business with great producers of seeds and reseling great gentics.
But R and F dont want to be exposed they want to do they work for love like hobby.
You see that biggest and best thing comes when u love your work.
Peace to all. ONE LOVE

 

[browntrout]

I grew it extensively after I found an amazing plant in a freebie seed. There’s some excellent plants in there. The one I found and never got back was incense peppery haze with tiny trichs but there’s other keepers in there too, some of which are first class

Would like to find an incense pheno, how prevalent are they?

Fell in love with incense taste and lingering smell when I grew some Nevilles haze mix outdoors years ago, surprised they finished.

 

[wassupmane]

astro do you live in the US ?
if yes have you ever tasted the famous piff pheno, street weed
how this pheno of amnesia compare with amazing piff ? it looks pretty the same time of flowering

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Did these guys or guy who do not wish to be exposed actually bred this clone now known as amnesia 98..because its got to have come from somewhere..either a seed was popped or its been passed to them or theyv put 2 p1 plants together....if we can find this info we might be closer to finding it or replicating it if its lost..or am I misunderstanding your english again.

 

[GoatCheese]

Did these guys or guy who do not wish to be exposed actually bred this clone now known as amnesia 98..because its got to have come from somewhere..either a seed was popped or its been passed to them or theyv put 2 p1 plants together....if we can find this info we might be closer to finding it or replicating it if its lost..or am I misunderstanding your english again.

Here's a post from a guy who claims to know the people who found the Amnesia (core cut):

ok, here it is. the hy-pro family are friends of mine. they brought me the amnesia/ssh years ago. they found a seed in the ssh from the greenhouse and grew it out. they called it amnesia but when i saw it i knew right away it was a ssh pheno, bubblegum, candy smelling and knock u out strong. over the years is has won many cups as ssh/amnesia, from many shops in the south, twins coffeshop, bio ibo and many others. so, not to take anything away from karma but he won the breeders cup with somone else's genetics. a rose by any other name is still a rose

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2869339&postcount=30

 

[wassupmane]

i think we are speaking of another cut, the nesel
not the core /moppel

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Hhmm no reply to my question yet..

 

[AstroTHC]

Did these guys or guy who do not wish to be exposed actually bred this clone now known as amnesia 98..because its got to have come from somewhere..either a seed was popped or its been passed to them or theyv put 2 p1 plants together....if we can find this info we might be closer to finding it or replicating it if its lost..or am I misunderstanding your english again.

This cut comes from Afghan x (NL5hazeAxhazeC) male
so it is Afghan x Neville Hz male from breed in 1996 or 1997. He accured cut in 1998 so that why it is labeled Amnesia 98 flower for 14 weeks.. So its not Mango Haze but very close to it.
(NL5hazeC x skunkhazeA) is Mango haze this is:
afghan x (Nl5hazeAxhazeC)

 

[madalasatori]

Would like to find an incense pheno, how prevalent are they?

Fell in love with incense taste and lingering smell when I grew some Nevilles haze mix outdoors years ago, surprised they finished.

Not very prevalent at all. After finding that original incense pheno in a single freebie I then went through about 100 - 150 more seeds and didn’t see it again.

It was pretty unique as it was huge yielding and pretty fast. High was gave me the giggle for the first time in years. When burnt it smelt like incense instead of weed. Flowers smelt earthy and it had a thick layer of tiny trichs. The one that got away :-(

 

[TheDarkStorm]

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I think you mean enemy of the state x Neville's haze which actually came later
The Afghan x ( a5hz x hz-c) aka enemy of the state x Neville's haze...is the later version...the original version came out of a super silver haze bud that was brought from the gh coffee shop..this is the information that was given buy those actually involved in finding the cut that became know as amnesia...the original version of super silver haze used to give out many sativa phenos, some even known to go 20weeks

 

[AstroTHC]

I think you mean enemy of the state x Neville's haze which actually came later

No you are wrong man,afghan x neville is amnesia 98. from south.

Soma relise first seeds called Amnesia and he rip boy from hypro.
so thats why hypro seeds come later then soma seeds.
And both hypro and soma lose orignal cut in 2004.

Seeds from hypro amnesia is
Very strong effect, exhuberant high. Winner of lot cannabis awards. One of the best sativas of the world.

Flowering indoor: 12 weeks.
Indoor yield: 400 to 450 Gr/m²

Outdoor: it can take 3 meters height depending of the vegetative period.

Lots of this shops offer this strain as "Amnesia Haze", but the original Hy-Pro packaging is only labelled as "Amnesia"!
The lineage of this Amnesia-Seeds is probably Amnesia (Hy-Pro cut) x Neville's Haze.

So only what conects amnesia 98 and hypro are same seed line name.
They use new amnesia clone x neville male so.

Clone is clone seed line is seed line.

This Amnesia 98 is from 96 made in south afhan x neville which makes sense to me it is close in smells to afghan haze then today version skunk haze dominant.
And your cut is Amnesia 98 x g13 indica referman
IT is close in look and taste with orignial but original have more haze high which is lost adding g13 male to haze mix.

Now it makes sense it is neville haze dominat pine/incense smells with lover flower time and lil body potency by afghan.
Neville is know to be strongest sativa high so its make sense.

After gorowing lots of of offsprign through the years mostly i found 3 tipes of smells in Amnesia seeds line.

Coffe pine leather haze,
Lemon cleaner sweet.
Mango,orange,peach,bubblegum.

haze A and C in the mix.

First amnesia come from hypro Amnesia 98. about 96.
Few people had that cut.
And R and F breed with it.

in 2004 soma makes first seeds called Amnesia Haze.

After people sampling the cut at cup in 04 it start making hype.

Then lots of cuts are maide with those seeds Amnesia x g13 and genetics what is writen on begining.

today it is untrackable to know lots of crosses with this gentics g13 haze.white amnesia,outlow amnesia,golden haze,hypro,soma.

But importent is that first clone of Amnesia comes from south and it is Afghan x Nevile haze.

All in all Amnesia 98 look like Neville haze pheno.

post made by original holder of cut.

''wow man that looks nice,i would olmost say that the amnesia haze look like the nevill,again woww.''

Soma seed line with added Haze C influence give the best cuts of Amnesia Haze seed line.
Hypro was also good but tu much fruty tipe smells.

And most people know Amnesia today with commercial popularitiy of core cut which is SSH. And lots of seed lines with core cut.

 

[AstroTHC]

Back in the 80's we managed to salvage a batch of rare Neville Haze seeds. The next couple of years we have used them together with our own Dutch genetics to produce some remarkable pheno's. After years of sellecting we bred the 'Enemy of the State' out of this genepool. The 'Enemy of the State' is a early maturing variety.

Genetics: XXX/Neville's haze

So you see they shit about their seed line geentics.

Indica x neville haze iz pure indica ??? You can select in that way but no breeder makes that.

 

[AstroTHC]

Dont listen what seed companies said outlaw by DP is the same shit as Golden haze from DHS...if you ask the they will say no. only when u grow from seeds you will know something.

 

[THC123]

I really think Soma's amnesia haze sucks and is overprized. Never got really good plants out of those seeds and the aromas were not how I recognize amnesia...

 

[TheDarkStorm]

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Somas g13haze male is actually near enuff pure haze-c and evrything that breeds to it seems to get seriously hazed an actually increases flower time...iv seen some very haze dom phenos come from its decendants, ones with all the stalks crystallized and just beads of huge calaxes just silver with crystal, hardly any leaves..just single blades...that male breeds very strong for haze-c traits.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

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Thc...sory you had a bad experience with amnesia...probably indicates a different parental plant or inbreeding...unfortunately