Genetics of new G13haze and Amnesia Haze in Holland after 2000's.

[AstroTHC]

Just so you know..I wanted to say please dont think im being rude or fussy or arrogant towards you...I believe if we can sort through the mess an gett to the facts it may help you or me atleast get nearer to finding some ov the true old school hazes that we miss.

Im not rude i like people trying to destroy my story and evidence but more you try more you see that only evidence you have Neville say...
why have Neville have more cradibility than Shanti on shanti seed lines ???

I will love that old haze heads like OJD,Sammy... say something. Also boys from south R... and F.... have original Amnesia 98 cut. And lots of crosses with new Ammo made by them salled by Soma on Amnesiag13 phenos and G13hazeC phenos. They even breeed more after G13haze stage.

Breeder: Ronnie B.

It's Amnesia Haze (1998 / 14 wk.) x G13 airborn indica(Reeferman) x G13 sativa(from N.Y.C./ Soma)

1) Amnesia H x G13 airborn male = G13-Amnesia F1
2) Amnesia H x F1 sativa male 12 wk. = G13-Am. Haze *
3) G13-Am. H. x G13 sativa male(Soma) = G13 Haze
4) G13 Haze x G13 Haze male = nr.7
5) Amnesia H x nr.7 = Amazing haze

* it's on the menu off the Dampkring /the Tweede Kamer.

but they start from Sk/hz A x C122 or mango haze aka Amnesia 98. from seed line of mr. nice.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

I apologise if you think I tried to destroy your thread..sory my friend I did not meen to do that..but I just think you should also know I dont think mr nice existed in 98 altho gene bank tech may hav..an I know for a fact mango haze does not have haze a in...I wont reply again..

 

[TheDarkStorm]

If I knew how to upload photos I would have showed you wat I think your looking for..but never mind

 

[AstroTHC]

I apologise if you think I tried to destroy your thread..sory my friend I did not meen to do that..but I just think you should also know I dont think mr nice existed in 98 altho gene bank tech may hav..an I know for a fact mango haze does not have haze a in...I wont reply again..

I welcome your opinion that is what forum is changing opinions. You welcome on my thread.

You cant upload before 50 post on ICMAG you can just put pictures on imgur. And I cant wait i didnt say that i am 100% right but it is subject i had long time working on

 

[AstroTHC]

More evidence you need for your story. I put thread from Mr nice where shanti tell that his Mango Hz is sk/hzA...father...so I need evidences...not just Neville say.
For good conversation we need good evidences and lots of knowledge.

 

[AstroTHC]

Originally Posted by shantibaba View Post
just to clear the air from confusion and before you all go making a legend from myth here is how it was done and is done still....
-Nh is made from Haze C male which is made by two pure haze parents from 1969....then the female side of NH is made from Haze A combined to NL5 or NL5Haze A where Haze A was also made by two pure Haze parents also from 1969
-SSH is made up of Haze C combined to Skunk 1 or Skunk HzC which is the male side, the female side is Haze C combined to NL5 or NL5HzC
-Mango comes from a parallel cross same as SSH but with one difference
Haze A male combined to Sk 1 or Sk HzA being the male plant, the female is NL5HzC....that is the breeding of those three plants
-La Nina is the widow father breed to a pure Haze female...neither A or C by the way so I hope that clears up all your doubts once and for all.

 

[browntrout]

God of dank have you tried Original Amnesia from Dinafem? Curious as I had order a fem 3 pack for shits and gigs.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

"Both Haze A and Haze C are related varieties. The Mango Haze father plant is a (Skunk x Haze C) variety the same father as Super Silver Haze, while the mother plant is a separate (Northern Lights #5x Haze C) variety, the sister plant to the mother of Super Silver Haze. You may have to stop and think about that for a second, but it should come to you with some time."
The above is also a quote directly from shanti an was put out wen those in the know started questioning him about his first description of mango haze an him saying it has haze-a in it wen its maker never made it like that. And im sure shanti will say to you that since the beginning of mr nice all parent plants that make his strains have remained the same an ther has been no changes..so wat do we believe.??. I know one thing for a fact the man who created these lines has never changed his discriptions of how his creations wer made. Anyway its probably best we move on from this an agree to disagree other wise we will be going round an round in circles..
Anyway back to amnesia an g13haze I do know of one amnesia pedigree that does have both haze-a and haze-c in it an that is hypro's..they claim that ther amnesia is enemy of the state x Neville's haze...I also know Karma holds a very good amnesia clone too...
You might be able to help me here..I still cant upload pictures as it keeps asking me to give a web address of somewer iv uploaded pictures...but iv not uploaded any pictures to any website so hav no website address to giv..reson being we have a amnesia clone local to us that looks alot like the pictures uploaded in the thred earlier only the one we have here the buds look more crystallized an are slightly more luminous green an can sometimes after a longer cure turny kinda goldy.

 

[wassupmane]

other photos of this famous 98' cut
it got all my attention

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Yes youve put two links to pictures that youve labeled amnesia 98 clone ,I reckon local to me we have the exact same clone those buds have come from....I just dont know how to upload pictures

 

[TheDarkStorm]

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[TheDarkStorm]

Ther we go..not the best picture...sometimes it you can get it to foxtail more an sometimes you can get it to come out quite redy greeny coloured just depends on the conditions it was grown in... il tryn find some pictures of the live plant... its the taller more foxtailing one..sometimes you can get it to bead out/fox tail bad but ppl start moaning then... il try an find a picture were the buds look more goldy coloured too

 

[wassupmane]

are you sure it is not core cut ? looks very nice ..
the amnesia i remember was golden yeah .. exactly. and i remember it was smelling citrus/woody but overall it had this amazing sweat/perspiration smell
is that this one ?? lol

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Hey wasup..this one dont smell sweet although ppl tend to describe smells differently..it tends to have different hints of smell wen grow in different conditions..the best way I can describe the smell is kinda incensey sometimes it has that piney earthy hints to it, sometimes it has hints of roting dead kinda sick smell to it but too me personally it has that first original super silver haze type incense smell but leans more towards the citrusy side wer as super silver haze had that more peppery hot spicy side to it.

 

[AstroTHC]

"Both Haze A and Haze C are related varieties. The Mango Haze father plant is a (Skunk x Haze C) variety the same father as Super Silver Haze, while the mother plant is a separate (Northern Lights #5x Haze C) variety, the sister plant to the mother of Super Silver Haze. You may have to stop and think about that for a second, but it should come to you with some time."
The above is also a quote directly from shanti an was put out wen those in the know started questioning him about his first description of mango haze an him saying it has haze-a in it wen its maker never made it like that. And im sure shanti will say to you that since the beginning of mr nice all parent plants that make his strains have remained the same an ther has been no changes..so wat do we believe.??. I know one thing for a fact the man who created these lines has never changed his discriptions of how his creations wer made. Anyway its probably best we move on from this an agree to disagree other wise we will be going round an round in circles..
Anyway back to amnesia an g13haze I do know of one amnesia pedigree that does have both haze-a and haze-c in it an that is hypro's..they claim that ther amnesia is enemy of the state x Neville's haze...I also know Karma holds a very good amnesia clone too...
You might be able to help me here..I still cant upload pictures as it keeps asking me to give a web address of somewer iv uploaded pictures...but iv not uploaded any pictures to any website so hav no website address to giv..reson being we have a amnesia clone local to us that looks alot like the pictures uploaded in the thred earlier only the one we have here the buds look more crystallized an are slightly more luminous green an can sometimes after a longer cure turny kinda goldy.

By pictures it dosnt look like original cut,to bulky in structure.
It is Amnesia 98 x g13 or somas AH indica phenos,i think or some kind like that.
But i know that cut too and it is better,more hazy smell and stronger then core cut bubblegum smells. Karma is sister to core cut.

Original was hazier and flower for 14 weeks. I havent seen original or somas long flower version long time ago in NL and around.
This cut is lemony and peppery and high is very very strong but more stoney then high and u feel paranoided lil bit like strongest afghani strains. But again to stony for real AH real AH will give you haze high of best quality.

 

[AstroTHC]

Here is the post by original breeder of Amnesia who breed what i wrote before.

here s my amnesia haze..
its the first from amnesia haze line.
it was sellected in 98 and won directly the hightimescup.
kept it 10 years and i see a lot of differenses by all the pheno s i see.
mostly g13 dom.(i bet also amnesia in it but i mean g13 structure).

i also have the g13 haze male and pollinated some of my top strains i have(mexican haze(c),jamaican(the same jamaican was used by dna),amnesia haze(c) and afghan(thisone use luc paradise seeds to cross with).
i sellected(a lot) from amnesiahaze/g13 haze(g13haze barney and g13/amnesia haze dampkring two different ones exclusive for their shops)
so i see a lot pheno s with a g13 haze bud structure

g13 haze is very dominant in every cross i made

i believe those who sell seeds of amnesia haze is the a.h. cut crossed with g13 haze and solled as amnesia haze
i dont want to start a war but i just want to share info with you as how i think it is.
greets and a great thread !!
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[AstroTHC]

this also

this pheno won several cups.
i saw a lot amnesia haze passed by but nothing came nearby .
i heared that soma lost this one(busted that time) and hypro also.they sellected a new amnesia haze and is also a very beatiful one but this pheno is more potential(in my eyes).
its in my stable for 10 years and i hope for 10 more years.
i have made a few crosses with it.
g13/amnesia haze(won 2nd price @highlife)dampkring
g13 haze( 2 years ago 2nd and last year 1rst @ hightimes)(amnesia haze x g13 haze backcrossed with g13 haze)2 different pheno s for barneys
the thing is i do not want a seedcompany,but my seeds are @ 2 shops for sale.
in that way it stays a hobby for me.
i hope to make better pic s and for sure i make macro s in a few weeks.
also busy with:
-afghanx g13 haze(c)
-a5 mango haze x g13 haze(c)
-big bud
-timewarp x headstash(texada timewarp x peterolia headstash)
-topdawg
-silvercheese(c)
-lucky 7(amnesia haze x g13 haze x amnesia haze)(c)
-purple pineberry
-africansondo, toa-ry,swazi roibaart
-grapefruit
i am working to stabelise the amnesia haze (1 line amnesia dom. the other line g13 dom.)
in future i will place some pictures of it.
greetings zeno

 

[AstroTHC]

ok ,here we are on 3 weeks flowering.
little buds are growing and hope they stop growing in length.
i just had 2 days veg.and they are olmost a meter.
yeahh i manished that 80% is a big sativa and i found also a good male(6 males precisly)




the flowertime will be between 10 and 14 weeks
(i have found a 10 weker and there are even earlyer pheno s in the f1 seed.
but my goal is to make and good sativa.
next week i make pic s of a few buds.
...
This is what i say about begining soma 10 week haze of amnesia x g13 indica F1.

 

[AstroTHC]

Soma's now-lost-to-Dutch-cops,Original "Amnesia Haze" clone was fucking incredible.
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it is still here,maybe soma lost him but all the time i have him in my veg room..
it is a killer and there is a lot of amnesia, amesia...not close to what i have..

not the biggest yeilder but in my eyes the most potent strain there is.

my promis was i never give it away and as today i never gave it to someone.

i have a few friends who grow it out,i ment i did not trade it to get other exclusive genetics.....

So real Amnesia is held by few people.
Freakje smoked evritihing and about every strain you can have and he say that AH original sativa shit on every other strain in terms of potency smell and taste...and he smoked many...breed even more...

 

[madalasatori]

God of dank have you tried Original Amnesia from Dinafem? Curious as I had order a fem 3 pack for shits and gigs.

I grew it extensively after I found an amazing plant in a freebie seed. There’s some excellent plants in there. The one I found and never got back was incense peppery haze with tiny trichs but there’s other keepers in there too.