michigan.mmma
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I have been following your posts, and it sounds like you are being re-infected from outside. If you had them in your outside garden, flyers will get in the house and zero in on your plants with their incredible sense of smell.
If you are in coco, and you treated when the pots were dry and plants thirsty, it should not be a problem. It takes a while for them to die as they have to munch on treated roots first. But if they are outside, they will keep coming back, which is what I think is happening in your case.
Also I would forget about experimenting with other products. The only things that work are imid products and Botaniguard ES. This has pretty much been proven. Imid will kill them.
Do you have a big back yard?
If so, your entire yard is probably infested, and they are in the soil.
Anyway it does take a while for the imid to work so give it a few days.
PS: Your plants don't look bad at all. Not seeing any damage.
Keep at it. They eventually will be killed. Might take several applications due to re-infection.
yes i treated the 3 gal coco pots when the plants were thirsty. 15ml/gal bayer T&S and 5ml/gal bayer complete. I am watering these 3 times per day and watered each time with imid and 1/2 strength nutes for about a day and a half for a total of 4 waterings. watered them until a little runoff each time. i know its overkill but i wanted to try a stronger application since they came back after previous treatments. i know it will take a few days since i just treated sunday but im not optimistic.
"Did you treat when the pots were dry and were the plants still drinking?"
i let them get very dry on my first application so they absorbed a lot and also kept treating them for 3 more waterings just to experiment. all the plants are using a good amount of water. the larger plants about 3/4 gallon each today and the ones in the pics from before about 1/2 gallon. plants are still in a fairly healthy state(not for long) so they are drinking pretty normal.
the backyard is not a large one - 80X120 lot. i am puzzled however as to why the large aphids reacted to the IMID in such a manner and these micros seem like they are immune. i think you are right and they are coming from outside - thats the only thing that makes sense at this point. my neighbor put in a garden next door that was looking great and then i saw about a week ago what looks like aphid total devastation - its fried.
the plants in the pics were 1 day before going to 12/12 so the real damage has not set in yet. since the switch to coco and H&G, things have looked a little better, especially the roots. At this point in rockwool and DWC the aphids would have done much more damage but in the coco there are still lots of fuzzy hairy roots even though there are tons of aphids now. it may be from the roots excelurator i am not sure. even in flowering on one of the older plants, the damage i saw at two weeks in the other mediums i did not see until after 3 weeks in the H&G & coco. that is another reason i thought the aphids were gone - things look so good in the veg stage while they are building their numbers. i also think the root growth can be so fast in this stage, the plant does not show many signs of a problem, then 2-3 weeks into flower the real damage starts. on my plants, the leaves start yellowing but then quickly turn brown and crispy at the top and bottom of the plant. the branches all get very weak and start falling even before the buds start developing and plants stretch really bad. the buds and yield are so bad they are not worth the time and electricity it took to produce them. probably 8-10 TIMES less than what they would be. Usually i can only make BHO to salvage what they produce. they definitely do NOT look like F.Dupp's pics - i cant believe those buds were grown with RA micros - Damn. my pics were deceiving - those plants will go to shit soon.
the more i see with my eyes and read, i think these micros just dont respond like the larger aphids to imid. i have treated the DWC buckets and rockwool cubes only to see them return. i also treated these plants in coco when they were younger just to be safe.