Full room reset. Current Culture RDWC. GG4 clone only, what did you expect from me?

[PadawanWarrior]

Ok I have never heard that before....more learning. I am wondering how these guys pull off all these fantastic grows using these exact numbers I did then...documenting every week nute levels and the makeup in detail...they are all wrong too?? I swear the more I dive into this the more complicated and opposing opinions I get...I do appreciate it tho. Keeps me thinking.
Thanks again. Peace, negative.

Oh man I'm way off I guess. My bad. Don't listen to me. I read different somewhere else. Now I'm really confused.


For cannabis, K, Ca and Mg all appear to be needed in larger quantities compared to other greenhouse floriculture species. In general, the rule is provide K, Ca and Mg in a 4:2:1 ratio to avoid antagonisms.

 

[negative37dBA]

I am wondering why Jacks would set a level that is not even close to 4 to 1 with the recommended doses??

 

[PadawanWarrior]

I am wondering why Jacks would set a level that is not even close to 4 to 1 with the recommended doses??

Your numbers look about perfect according to the 4:2:1 thing

I know why I was confused for a minute. I didn't know hydro would be that different. I was thinking of the CEC in soil and thought it would be the same ratios. But it's pretty much the opposite for some reason. I'm gonna have to figure that out.

 

[negative37dBA]

Hi all. I have not taken many pics lights off. Timing seems off to get any shots and I don't disturb them once there sleeping. Was able to snap a few right before lights on this am.
Day 34.

They are all really praying up to the light and Ph numbers have been rock solid at 5.9.

Still pretty dark green but I just started to use the no N Masterbloom 0-12-24. I do notice some leaves are lighter than previous grows. Checking closely with pictures from the same time on other grows. I am going to say they look better than before. I do not see the level of edge brown and tip burn that I have had in the past. Gonna wait till we get to about week 7 to declare any big wins but all signs point to good things. A bit tall and thick but we are working with it. Looking for ward to what week 6 and 7 will bring to leaf health. I am pretty sure the increased temps and the lower N levels are really helping...Makes me excited for next run. Be able to use Hydrobuddy and the Masterbloom no N formula right from the start.
Thanks all for advice and following along everyone.
Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

Hi all. Been doing a tent reset today that I use for my veg place. Good clean up and filling the tank for nutes. Started playing with hydrobuddy and having problems with it.....again. I am watching Greengenes video on Jacks. Putting in the exact 2 items he is using and all the parameters are correct...as far as I can tell. Then I hit calculate and get some super high P number. No matter what I do I cannot recreate his number using the exact same formula. I guess I am doing something wrong again....man. I like learning but not every single time I use it....
Some tent pics and the 2 GG4 clones.

Getting close.

Wish me luck with the hydrobuddy. I know I can use the 321 or even a 4/2 and be fine but I want hydrobuddy to tell me the correct numbers...
Have a good day all
Peace, negative.

 

[Rocket Soul]

Hi all. Been doing a tent reset today that I use for my veg place. Good clean up and filling the tank for nutes. Started playing with hydrobuddy and having problems with it.....again. I am watching Greengenes video on Jacks. Putting in the exact 2 items he is using and all the parameters are correct...as far as I can tell. Then I hit calculate and get some super high P number. No matter what I do I cannot recreate his number using the exact same formula. I guess I am doing something wrong again....man. I like learning but not every single time I use it....
Some tent pics and the 2 GG4 clones.
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Getting close.
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Wish me luck with the hydrobuddy. I know I can use the 321 or even a 4/2 and be fine but I want hydrobuddy to tell me the correct numbers...
Have a good day all
Peace, negative.

Consider the possibility that GG gothis numbers wrong.

 

[exploziv]

Consider the possibility that GG gothis numbers wrong.

That or some simple mistake like putting P2O5 as P.

 

[negative37dBA]

That or some simple mistake like putting P2O5 as P.

God dam it....that's exactly what I fing did you genius you. I used to be good at learning new shit....takes me longer these days...lmao.
Appreciate you nailing it first try. exploziv GURU.
Now they are correct...what do you know.
Have a sweet 4th. Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

Hi all. Got the tent all reset and up and rolling along with the F and D system. I will say hands down this is the EASIEST hydro method known to man. Very little equipment and amazing growth with not much input from you.
I have had my tent set up in some very complicated configs. Running 3 lights and growing in 2 diff mediums....way overkill but it taught me a lot. Now I just have the 65 watt LED, 15 gallon rez, water pump and circ timer. That's it.
Ah that new rez smell...

A note on Jacks, Masterbloom and the raw salt game. I gotta say, for me, this is the ultimate way to grow, period. Along with Hydrobuddy you can literally make ANY mix you want from about 4 or 5 raw salts. I chuckle every time I mix up a rez. It is so clean, so pure and I can customize it infinitely. Putting 3 products into my rez compared to about 13 or so with Advanced. Again the best part is I know what makes up the NPK, not just the NPK because the first is more important for sure.
Dam fans get so dirty so fast. yuck.

Planting the bare root cutting, the preferred and recommended method by CC. That little platform is called the "planting deck" Makes height placement real easy. Then back fill with hydroton. I pull off the collar and cup. Do not want that restricting and keeping moisture around the stem.

All done, I only have 2 so easy. In a couple days I will cover the entire tray and black it out protecting my little roots. 1 hour off and 6 minutes on to reach proper level in the tray.

The week 1 of veg mix as per my Hydrobuddy....really close to a traditional 321.

I used the EC adjuster to slightly tweak it down to 1.7. The EC adjuster keeps the ratios correct, up or down, with the push of just one key.
Here is thee elemental breakdown by ever part in the mix...this is the important stuff. As long as YOU dont mess up hydrobuddy will not mess up...lmao.

The predicted EC was 1.71. It came out at 1.7 on my bluelab. Spot on.
Looking forward to end of week 5 in the flower room. Excited to see how those leaves are holding up.
Have a sweet day all. Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

Hydrobuddy has made me a much more educated grower. The more you use it you get more familiar with the proper levels of all the key elements and how they play on each other. Feel like I can much more effectively deal with defs or tox pretty easy. It can make growing super simple. My mind tends to do good with numbers and data. Other people learn by seeing it or doing it, Either way it can help and it is free.
Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

I have seen this video a few times...it always makes me laugh pretty hard. Gotta do research before you start RDWC to see if it is for you. Not everyone needs a Ferrari to grow. When the guys says "yes, mother fucking cups" I spit out my drink.
Here is the link it is on the tube. funny rdwc video
Peace, negative.

 

[exploziv]

Oh man, if you only shared that video a while ago.. (joking! )
Just did final setup on my RDWC system and thread will go live as soon as the seedlings are ready to go in.
Btw, I like when you show what you are doing step by step, helps people like me with no experience to figure out things.

 

[negative37dBA]

Thanks for the nice comments exploziv. I figure more is better plus I don't have any other people to share with so....I do more sometimes.
Been checking back through some pictures of past runs. Looking at end week 5 specifically to compare to this run. It is kind of hard to get a great comparison shot but I did my best.
Here we have about day 35 from last run.

Here is day 34 from current run.

Me seeing it in real life shows me this. Leaves are overall less green, not all of them but some for sure. Much LESS leaf edge burn and less tip burn. I would have to say that the issues I was having are not nearly as apparent. My feelings after looking at the numbers tell me I was giving them to much N and to much K. Was constantly adding MPK. So I am pretty sure it was a toxicity I was seeing.
This switch to the no N Masterbloom and using hydrobuddy are good things. I consider this the mid point of the grow since I normally go 10 weeks. Things are leaning towards a good second half.
Been real nice to have some ideas and advice thrown my way to help figure this out. Credit to a couple posters who said toxicity the whole time...nice you nailed it!
Have a great day all. I am transplanting a few tress today.
Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

Alrighty we have reached the end of week 5. Day 35. Pretty happy. I am learning some good new things about heat and nutes this run that will pay off into the future. Pretty much the halfway point of the grow.
Going to do a water change out tonight, kind of go through in pictures how I do it for my system. I have fun on my change days playing with hydrobuddy to work out what I am going to use. Literally 2 items this week plus the bacteria and that is all folks. Raw salts are stupid simple, cheap and HIGHLY effective.

We will start with how I get my water. I am on my own well and its hard so I R/O it all for growing. I also UV sterilize to make absolutely sure. Clean start water is a must in my book.

Doing some floor replacement so forgive all the wall dirt in the photo. Putting in snap laminate instead of sheet tile.

I have this piped through the wall to the next room into a float valve controlled rez.

You can see the UV unit to the right and I also bubble it just for fun.
Now that I have good water I mix up my nutes. I use a couple 1 gallon pitchers to mix in. I mix the A with a pump and just hand mix the B. The A is harder so that is why I use a pump...makes it easy.
This is the A mixing away...

And here they both are done.

I will then add these to my system after I turn the pump on and fill it with water. You add them separate and give them time to mix in between.
Just a small scale and some knowledge is all you need to get into the Raw Salt game to!

That is the Cal Nit or Jacks part B getting measured out.
So easy boys.
Going to be a few parts to this weeks post so hope you don't mind.
Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

Here is the nute stash...lol.

Jacks A and B, MasterBlend 0-12-24, MPK, Iron Sulphate and Mag Sulphate. Not really that much and not complicated.
Her is what we are running this week as per Hydrobuddy.

I used the EC adjuster to drop the concentration slightly. Handy tool. You can see from the numbers I am running about 15 percent below recommended. Almost the same mix as last week. It is a 3.4/1.7 with zero Epsom.
Getting ready to drain the system shortly.
Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

Allrighty some juicy plant shots...end week 5. Day 35

Both the "control leaves" are gone. Getting so little light down low they were eaten up by the plant and I removed them. No worries. I think we are looking pretty good here. Not perfect but pretty good. Feel like I have gained some good bits of knowledge that will help with the next run for sure.
Going to do my water change a bit later. I am hungry and thirsty. Time to munch out.
Have a sweet day all. Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

Hi all. Water change done today, all went smooth. I have a simple way of doing it. I put a submersible pump in my Epicenter and run a hose out my window to my lawn. It loves it. Have to turn off air pumps, chiller and circ pump. Let it drain fully. Then we just reverse the process. Pump from the rez in other room with a hose to the Epicenter. Have a built in pump in the big rez but I dont have one in the Epicenter. You certainly could pop it in there and just keep it ready to go. I find it easy to just pull it out and store it for next time. Less holes in my Epicenter and a bit more simple. Have a dedicated hose so it stays clean.

Pump inside this rez...just flick the switch and we are filling.

When the water fills I put in the "A" I mixed up and let it circ for 10 mins. Then I drop the "B". Let it circ for 10 mins then check Ph and EC and adjust if needed. Turn all equip back on and boom done.
I only got 1 shot for you tonight and its not that good. I tried to get a higher angle but it really whited out everything with the light. I guess over 1000 PPFD will do that...lol. They are doing well, frosting and building size. Day 36

Gonna share a tip I learned long ago about running a sterile rez. You can make your own Clear Rez for literally almost nothing!! Buy 1lb "Pool Shock" from HTH...it is the same exact ingredient in Clear Rez. Mix it at .25 of a gram to 32 oz of R/O water or at least that's what I use. Bam you have 32 oz of Clear Rez.
You guys that use this can send me a check for all the money I just saved you...1LB Pool shock will make 2200.00 dollars worth of Clear Rez. Pool Shock costs LESS THAN 10.00 BUCKS...let me know about when the check is in the mail....
Here is how much you need to put it in perspective compared to a pound. Its insane how little is used and how much they mark it up! This is no BS guys I would not mess with you...I use it always in my F and D. 1 pound will last you a lifetime.

Have a sweet day all
Peace, negative.

 

[soopy]

Nice! Lookin’ finer than frogs hair my good man….

Great tip…. I remember Obsoul33t lacing us up with a similar hack with septic tank enzyme cleaner and Cannazyme lol…..why pay for someone’s marketing department to sell you water and an already existing product….

 

[exploziv]

Well, it's all chemistry afterall. Just need to make sure the replacement is safe to use. There are probably less restrictions on what can be in a septic tank compared to a hydro system.
Also, all the pool shock type products I see online have over 50% of contents listed as "OTHER INCREDIENTS" with no other details. Doesn't sound good enaugh to me. What I would do is use a product for cleaning (shocking) wells and drinking water tanks. That should be better regulated and should not contain any unneeded stuff other than the chlorine releasing chemical. And would probably have everything listed without ambiguity.
And I also checked the MSDS for Clear Rez, it's not the same chemical, even though they both contain chlorine releasing chemicals. Also, Clear Rez seems to be double concentration of active incredient. Not that it would change the economic nature of using an alternative instead. Just stating is not exactly same thing, even if they both work.

 

[negative37dBA]

Snapped a couple this am with lights going out. Not perfect but a improvement over last run so that is positive. Day 37

Have a sweet day, negative.