ive found that a small reg of herb works just as good as thoes painkillers the vet gives you.i hate to give my best friend perscription pills for pain when he got hurt. a bowl size nug works wounders for dogs, joint pain,soar muscles,stimulate hunger,they heal faster too no bullshit. try it older dogs luv it.but remember just a bowl no more,and excracts are out of the question it will kill them stick with that good old home grown shit......