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idontgivenames
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Tropical said:
indoors is out of the question and has to go full outdoors. would topping and using FIM techniques give many medium/small sized colas so you can lessen your chances of mold or anything? the avg flower date for satori in the n. hemisphere is mid october-november, so if colas are kept at a manageable density per square inch, they probably would be fine of mold - especially because mandals sativas are known to be VERY mold/pest resistant.
but have you done ground growns in subtropical weather during a hurricane season? it works?
Tropical
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If you can't veg indoors, then you must be planning to grow all your plants from seed, right? There isn't any way to grow from clones without any indoor cultivation. You can still use an early strain and start a few seedlings every month to get 12 small harvests instead of one big one.
There was one guy here, I think it was HurricaneFanIAm, who grew a sativa outdoors on the Gulf coast of south Florida. It got absolutely huge before a hurricane killed it. Search for a thread called something like "monster outdoor grow" or "my outdoor monster".
Satori - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satori
There was one guy here, I think it was HurricaneFanIAm, who grew a sativa outdoors on the Gulf coast of south Florida. It got absolutely huge before a hurricane killed it. Search for a thread called something like "monster outdoor grow" or "my outdoor monster".
Satori - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satori
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AccountWontWork
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idontgivenames said:
Hey man what's up
Going full outdoors isn't so bad, and it's not that difficult... Easier then indoors in my opinion, except for the pests. First thing you should plan out is, how to avoid pests from destroying your grow. Pests pose the biggest threat to your chances of harvest. By growing outdoors your plants would more likely die from spider mites, (a huge problem here in FL) or a random animal taking a huge bite out of your colas, then a hurricane.
Two years ago I kept a thread on OG of my guerilla grow. I had two females growing under the canopy of other plants, in 5 gal. buckets recessed in the ground. I had a number of problems with pests. I was vegging these babies outdoors from seed and they grew great! (We can't forget that cannabis, after all, did survive on its own for thousands of years before we ever got our hands on it :wink: ) I had periods of rain and bad weather that would last for weeks, so my plants would endure high humidity, heat, and quantities of moisture constantly keeping the buds wet up untill around high noon. These plants survived through huge thunder storms, and even at times I would find them knocked over and buried in the dirt where limbs had fallen right on top of them! But never did my buds rot, and never did my plants die, despite all the harsh conditions. If my plants would have been subjected to an environment like I have described in an indoor grow-room, they would have died fast.
But you know what ended up severely reducing my harvest? It was spider mites. They ate away at my plants like a plague. It was ants. They burrowed deep into my plants root system. It was animals. They chomped away at my leaves and buds.
Your plants will survive the harsh conditions! Mother nature will make it work. But, if you don't take the necessary precautions to avoid the short comings of pests, then it was over before it even started.
Good luck man!
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Tropical that plant is huge! She looks so happy under the hot sun
When you're talking about an "ounce of leaves" What are you doing with them? Making hash? If so, how? I chopped a male plant I found tonight, and I was wondering if I could have used the leaves to make a little hash... If so... I'm going to be pissed because I trashed his nast, ball having, ass!
Take care guys! I'm drunk and hio=gh right now and life is good! Toke on!
P.S. Under Cannapits name it says banned... Is that for real? Or did he just put that under there...
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Tropical
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AccountWontWork, you're right about pests. It only takes one lizard to chomp down a precious seedling. Now, think about how many lizards are out there. In nature, every marijuana plant that survives to finish blooming will drop thousands of seeds, so 99% of those plants could die and the specious would still thrive.
The little leaves on the buds are good for hash or honey oil. The fan leaves are good for Cannabutter. Even if the leaves came from males, just throw at least 8oz (dry weight) of leaves in a pot of boiling water with a pound of butter. Strain the liquid and discard the leaves. Chill the liquid so the butter will solidify on top where you can easily skim it off and use it to bake a batch of cookies. You can easily make three batches of potent cookies from that butter.
The little leaves on the buds are good for hash or honey oil. The fan leaves are good for Cannabutter. Even if the leaves came from males, just throw at least 8oz (dry weight) of leaves in a pot of boiling water with a pound of butter. Strain the liquid and discard the leaves. Chill the liquid so the butter will solidify on top where you can easily skim it off and use it to bake a batch of cookies. You can easily make three batches of potent cookies from that butter.
G
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Got a Q...
Based on websites about FL sunrise and set times, from May to Aug there is too much sunlight for flowering outside. Is this the case?
Would a plant grown indoors under 24hs of light flower outside with only 10hours of night?
Waht are your exps with summer growing outside?
Based on websites about FL sunrise and set times, from May to Aug there is too much sunlight for flowering outside. Is this the case?
Would a plant grown indoors under 24hs of light flower outside with only 10hours of night?
Waht are your exps with summer growing outside?
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How much sunlight do you think is too much to flower? Remember, we veg under 18 hours of HID per day. We never get that much sunlight in Florida.
In my experience, this is very dependent on genetics. Even the same strain of mj can vary from seedling to seedling. Also, some plants will take longer to reach sexual maturity than others. That is basically puberty and mj can't bloom until then no mater how much light it receives.
I've found that most strains, especially indicas and hybrids, can flower here in south Fla. all year long. Our days are never long enough to keep them in veg past puberty. I have heard of sativas that will stay in veg here though. Check out HurricaneFanIAm's thread called something like "My Outdoor Monster" for an example of a plant that stayed in veg. That was a sativa bagseed, iirc. For an example of a plant that wouldn't veg outdoors here, at OG I blogged my grow that finished outdoors in July. I think that was in the year 2002.
In my experience, this is very dependent on genetics. Even the same strain of mj can vary from seedling to seedling. Also, some plants will take longer to reach sexual maturity than others. That is basically puberty and mj can't bloom until then no mater how much light it receives.
I've found that most strains, especially indicas and hybrids, can flower here in south Fla. all year long. Our days are never long enough to keep them in veg past puberty. I have heard of sativas that will stay in veg here though. Check out HurricaneFanIAm's thread called something like "My Outdoor Monster" for an example of a plant that stayed in veg. That was a sativa bagseed, iirc. For an example of a plant that wouldn't veg outdoors here, at OG I blogged my grow that finished outdoors in July. I think that was in the year 2002.
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dasme said:
Never had problems with a plant flowering between may and aug. My last outdoor grow started flowering in June. June 22 to be exact
But yes, if you vegged a plant outdoors, and it had a dark period outdoors for 10 hours, it would flower. However, like Tropical said plants are their own individual. They will all muture, ripe, and flower at their own times when they are ready. You just have to watch
G
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cool. THanks guys.
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AccountWontWork said:
Have you ever grown pure or nearly pure tropical landrace sativa outdoors in Florida in the spring? I have a feeling that might veg, like HurricaneFan's bagseed outdoor monster. That one stayed in veg all summer. We don't know when it would have flowered because it got killed by Hurricane Charley. It looked like it would have produced more than ten pounds.
I had a Sweet Tooth #4 a few years ago indoors. In a stoner moment I accidentally set my timer to 16/8 instead of 18/6. All my strains stayed in veg except the SwT4. Those seed plants started to flower. They weren't clones, they were seed plants, so it seems like that strain has the tendency to flower early. I had moms for five other strains at the time that all stayed in veg.
The ideal set-up here is to veg indoors and put out a few clones every month.
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Tropical said:
I don't see why a pure sative wouldn't veg. I've only ever grown bagseed so what I get is what I got =P I usually just throw my beans that I collect from good regs in a jar and germ them as needed. So I'll end up with 5 plants that all grow different. Some will flower really early, some will take forever to even show sex. It just really shows you how different one plant can be.
I agree with you 100% that the ideal grow will be vegged indoors, then placed outdoors to flower. Like you've said in previous posts. Vegging your plants indoors, then placing them in the real world, will reduce the chances of pest shitting on your ladies.
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AccountWontWork said:
In two of my posts, including the one you quoted, I said that a sativa CAN veg in Florida. If you grow from seed it will definitely stay in veg at least until sexual maturity.
Are you saying that a pure sativa should ALWAYS veg in June? I don't think that is true, especially here in south Florida. I have had bagseed flower through the entire month of June and finish in July. It might not have been pure, but I have also heard of others who have had sativas flower in the summer too. I think it will depend on genetics of the particular girl.
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Tropical said:
Yeah I was agreeing with you that a sativa could veg. Maybe I just typed it weird, I don't know, haha I was pretty stoned at the time...
Tropical said:
Nah, I had two plants flower from June to around mid August. June was verrrry good to me
G
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I thought that you needed 12hours of night to get flowers and full buddage. So you're saying that this is NOT the case? That's cool.
there is a spot that only gets 4.5 hours of strong direct sun from 12 to 430, pror to that it's under moderate shade, after that it's in full shade.
With a "low light" strain, 4 strong hours should be sufficient right?
there is a spot that only gets 4.5 hours of strong direct sun from 12 to 430, pror to that it's under moderate shade, after that it's in full shade.
With a "low light" strain, 4 strong hours should be sufficient right?
Homestead Marijuana Lab Bust
Homestead Marijuana Lab Bust
Homestead Marijuana Lab Bust
POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT April 24, 2007
UPDATED: 7:11 pm EDT April 24, 2007
HOMESTEAD, Fla. -- A marijuana operation was busted in Homestead after undercover agents discovered a hydroponic lab.
Related Content: Video
Police said they discovered the lab Tuesday afternoon, which brings their total number of grow houses busted to 50 in South Florida alone.
Investigators said they are so alarmed by these numbers that the deputy director of the Office of Policy Control in Washington has been called in to assess the situation. He was supposed to be in South Florida Tuesday to speak with narcotics detectives, but couldn't make the trip.
Investigators arrested seven people in connection with the marijuana lab.
They also searched eight houses and were able to confiscate seven weapons and 350 pounds of marijuana. Police confirmed that the marijuana's street value was $1.2 million.
Residents in the neighborhood of the Homestead home said they are extremely grateful for the police presence and persistence with the issue.
"I just want to honor the police officers and detectives that keep doing what they are doing, and all the neighbors in the neighborhood to continue to call crime watch because this has gone on too frequently in the homes around our neighborhoods and we have our children and the youth," Gregory Polanco said.
Police said residents may want to call if they think something suspicious is going on in their neighborhood.
They said that an illegal lab uses chemicals, as well as propane tanks, which are a huge fire hazard.
Once they explode, police said the fire would not only affect those growing the plants illegally, but also the neighborhood as a whole.
Homestead Marijuana Lab Bust
Homestead Marijuana Lab Bust
POSTED: 7:08 pm EDT April 24, 2007
UPDATED: 7:11 pm EDT April 24, 2007
HOMESTEAD, Fla. -- A marijuana operation was busted in Homestead after undercover agents discovered a hydroponic lab.
Related Content: Video
Police said they discovered the lab Tuesday afternoon, which brings their total number of grow houses busted to 50 in South Florida alone.
Investigators said they are so alarmed by these numbers that the deputy director of the Office of Policy Control in Washington has been called in to assess the situation. He was supposed to be in South Florida Tuesday to speak with narcotics detectives, but couldn't make the trip.
Investigators arrested seven people in connection with the marijuana lab.
They also searched eight houses and were able to confiscate seven weapons and 350 pounds of marijuana. Police confirmed that the marijuana's street value was $1.2 million.
Residents in the neighborhood of the Homestead home said they are extremely grateful for the police presence and persistence with the issue.
"I just want to honor the police officers and detectives that keep doing what they are doing, and all the neighbors in the neighborhood to continue to call crime watch because this has gone on too frequently in the homes around our neighborhoods and we have our children and the youth," Gregory Polanco said.
Police said residents may want to call if they think something suspicious is going on in their neighborhood.
They said that an illegal lab uses chemicals, as well as propane tanks, which are a huge fire hazard.
Once they explode, police said the fire would not only affect those growing the plants illegally, but also the neighborhood as a whole.
G
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are they talking about a meth lab or a grow op..lol
i think thats how the feds and news are wording things now to make it seem like growing mj can cause your neighborhood to explode, this is the second time in the past 2 weeks in south florida propane was mentioned i can only assume its use for like a co2 generator or something...but the chemicals does sound like a met lab..they should have just said ferts..but it wouldnt sound like the boogie man thenIndica Sativa said:
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