Florida Growers Thread; Reloaded

[dank.frank]

Yeah it can certainly be a genetic thing - Irene isn't exactly "hard" to grow - but she can eat. And you know your "og" and "diesel" type plants given what you are running - so you know how they cant really suck down the N during the stretch and onset of flowering...

They just look underfed - in my opinion. But again, that sligtht clawing says maybe it isn't nitrogen...but the yellowing begs to differ.

Could it just be a pH / lockout issue on those containers? Is the media somehow different? Are they located directly in front of an intake or exhaust / have a fan blowing directly on them??



dank.Frank

 

[Twisted pleasur]

hell I appreciate it twisted. I haven't bothered cause im thinking it has to be genetic, the 2 rudebois are the only 2 doing it, the moms do it too and theyre in 4' pots still and don't get a strong dose ever in veg. I had a c99 cut that acted finicky like this, didn't matter what I did to her she seemed to grow ok when she wanted and ugly as hell every other time, shit was all fire though lol.the leaves tacoing up are the giveaway imo cause the humidity is fine for everything else in there,triangle trip,ortega og and ecsd

I agree guys gens play a huge roll. And its unfortunate we have to let some go. When they dont work for us.... Ive been there as well.
When I ran no till I had girls that did really well and now with coco they dont perform as I would like so I keep them on the back burner for the future and that about all you can do.

 

[Hugh Midity]

I don't think its in the containers df, same coco everything else running now is planted in and the moms looking the same. but idk lol. theyre the original seed plants, I threw them to sex them at around 6 weeks old then pulled them out and revegged them and cycled them in. theyre getting the gh recirc feed schedule plus calmag on a drip 2x a day, everything else loves it up. i'll get some pics up of the whole crop when the light comes on.also not really on where they sit,they are at the furthest point from the fan and intake

 

[Dawn Patrol]

Your doing God's work Hugh.

Hope all is well my brother, you'll get those bitches figured out soon.

 

[Hugh Midity]

Your doing God's work Hugh.

how goes it dp?

 

[unregistered190]

Thanks for posting them coir tips Twisted

 

[Morcheeba*]

what brand and type coco does everyone use.

i stick w/the dehydrated Sunleaves chunky coco that i have to rinse the hell out of it but ive looked at other brands but it was a fine coco and i dont like that....it acts more like soil.

EDIT: if you want to reduce your up potting with coco look into the Root Routing Pot's. i saw Boo using them and i bought a few and i like them. they are like a heavy duty net pot.

peace

 

[Catatafish]

canna & brotanicare usually. I think the brotanicare bags i had werent so good the last round as immediately upon up-potting i had issues in it as where the canna didnt (i ran out of canna in the middle of up-potting so 2 of mine had to get the cocogro). Takes about 2 weeks recovery on the brotanicare pots until they start growing properly like the canna ones did. After that two weeks they were fine.

I notice it usually takes a couple days before they start to kick in and grow upon transplanting so im wondering if im still filling the CEC those first couple days. Was thinking about doing the delta9(?) way and start charging the shit with a high ec feed (i think he was using 4.0 to initially charge, yikes!) but afraid of frying everything!

My main issue is about 4 weeks into flower everything looks awesome then i get what i think appears to be a calcium issue start to appear and i can never get rid of it at that point. I'll get a few rust spots on the larger leaves near the tops, some leaf tip die back, and yellowing on the tallest limbs but only the limbs that are pretty much directly under the light. Its like the it needs more nutes on those limbs only as the rest of plant looks awesome other than some leaf tip die back. I dont believe its nute burn as im running 1.2ec at the moment. I thought calcium is supposed to cause leaf tip die back similar to nute burn based upon the pics i see but i could be wrong.

 

[Hugh Midity]

I use brotanicare cocogro cut 5:1 with perlite, works great for me with none of the heaving rinsing. mix it up and use it. I do run a good amount of nutes through it at transplant in case of salt but compared to the hours of hydrating and rinsing that sunleaves stuff its considerably less work and only a few bucks more. ive tried the gh blocks(huge block of salt with a little coco mixed in) and canna which was good but theres a little more fiber in the cocogro and I like it better

 

[MagniKhan]

what brand and type coco does everyone use.

i stick w/the dehydrated Sunleaves chunky coco that i have to rinse the hell out of it but ive looked at other brands but it was a fine coco and i dont like that....it acts more like soil.

EDIT: if you want to reduce your up potting with coco look into the Root Routing Pot's. i saw Boo using them and i bought a few and i like them. they are like a heavy duty net pot.

peace

I use the Sunleaves also, I use both the chunk and the fine, about 3 to 1, depends how much recycled coco I have in the mix. The recycled coco tends to be pretty fine when I'm done with it so I use the chunk to fluff it up some.
As far as rinsing, I soak it for at lest 12 hrs changing the water a couple of times. Then I rinse and squeeze it till the run off is mostly clear. I use a couple of smart pots to rinse in, once I've done a run or two I put then inside out over a bucket and hose it off to get the sand and fine shit out and it ready for another rinse.
I end up doing the same to any other brand so what the hell. I stocked up awhile ago so now I just bring a bail or two each time I make and order so I don't have to personally go to a shop, it always makes me way to paranoid.

Be safe,
MK

P.S. How is Boo? It's been sometime since I've seen him check in.

 

[Catatafish]

I agree with hugh, the brotanicare seems to be a better mix of coco. The canna stuff is awefully fine. I think i just got a bad batch or something as both times i used it was from the same batch with same stall out / issues.

But i havent rinsed or soaked any of it either. May have to start doing that as much as i loathe it.

 

[Catatafish]

Another note, although i know its not the best method of testing .... but the runoff that comes back to the control bucket is pretty much the same ec and ph as i what i just irrigated with so i (hope) dont think i have a build up issue....??....???..

 

[stihgnobevoli]

rudeboi og 21 days

these ladys are wanting something, the only two looking rough

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they want more mag. yellowing leaves, interveinal chlorosis. it's also possible there's too much food for them EC too high i think you all call it?

as for the coco questions. i use one of 2 brands. it's either the botanicare, or the GH brand one. or canna? but one of those bricks says botanicare for sure and one is made by GH. rinsed once to see if there was a difference. but i mostly just open the brick, wet it, and mix it in with the rest of my soil mix. which is really just coco, ewc and perlite.

funny that most of the OG crosses some of you all are growing look just like my wbk's. strong genes.

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[Asslover]

I use Botanicare cocogro (the bagged stuff) almost exclusively. It's comes full rinsed and prebuffered with Calcium Nitrate, Humic & Fulvic. However, I still use Cal/Mag with every watering from veg through week 5-6 of flower. Technaflora's MagiCal to be exact. <- Reason is it has Cal Nitrate and Cal Chloride (& Mag Nitrate) VS Gh CaliMagic which is Calcium Carbonate. Carbobate is much harder for the roots to absorb. It's the same Calcium that's in our tap. I do use tap btw.

 

[Asslover]

Btw, Catafish, I do not rinse the coco. I do as Hugh does, mix in some perlite, water heavily (with my standard veg formula), transplant and away they go

 

[FlaDankster]

meh...my emdog3's in veg look worse than that. Crinkled, curled, and short on mag. They are not happy campers.

Still trying to get the hang of the cal and mag in coco. In veg i have mag defs, in flower i have cal defs. If i dump a bunch of calmag on em i get too much N signs.

Im beginning to think its environment related based upon others results with same nutes. I do run RH high in flower during daytime which if understand correctly results in less water uptake and will affect cal. Maybe i need to reduce RH some...? Im at a loss in veg though. I always have had a slight mag def in veg no matter what medium or nutes it seems. The ED3 just seems to show it more than the rest though.

To lazy to look back.....but you veg under cfl's?

I have done a bit of veg under a few different cfl's and seemed to always see some thing i wasn't happy with.But the girls would always go into overdrive and look top notch once they went under the 600 in flower.

Maybe the girls want more light for the food you are givin them???


Or maybe they just want a better tan?(mo light)

 

[Hugh Midity]

coincidentally I also use the same cal mag until week five of flower use tap water and have an undying love for ass

 

[Catatafish]

lol

yea i have the same calmag. yea the gh version sucks.....i found out about the carbonate while researching and canned it before i even switched to coco.

maybe my problem is stopping it too early. i always seem to get the claw going on using it. Funny how some people are able to use RO and not even add calmag and others cant. Seems there is a reason for this....maybe environment?

do you use the full 5ml a gallon?

 

[Catatafish]

FD, been vegging under t5 8 bulb 6500k.

I have used mh 400-600watt as well, in soil, dwc, or coco i still have mg signs in that closet.

 

[Asslover]