Yup. 5ml all the way until i cut it out later in flower.
What brand nutrients you using? Tap or RO?
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Yup. 5ml all the way until i cut it out later in flower.
What brand nutrients you using? Tap or RO?
gh. same schedule you guys use. This time i switched over to 6/9 after i started getting the excess n signs though and cut out calmag, approx week3-4.
ive done both tap and ro. I have horrible luck with tap so ive been ro of late or a mix to get some buffering in the ph department. if i mix id say its roughly 80RO/20tap.
ive done both tap and ro. I have horrible luck with tap so ive been ro of late or a mix to get some buffering in the ph department. if i mix id say its roughly 80RO/20tap.
Whats so bad with your tap? Mine is about 300-350ppm's.
Maybe try 50/50 tap/ro and go back to the other schedule? I tried 6/9 many years ago, before i bwas a mod here, and ran into issues as well. Since changing to my current schedule it's been smooth sailing save for the occasional root issue.
Maybe try 50/50 tap/ro and go back to the other schedule? I tried 6/9 many years ago, before i bwas a mod here, and ran into issues as well. Since changing to my current schedule it's been smooth sailing save for the occasional root issue.
My tap ph's around 8.3ish. When I mix the veg formula i need ph down. 9 drops of Advance Nutrients ph down. However for flower, from the transition formula of 1-1-1 (tsp) plus 5ml MagiCal all the way to the 7.5ml (micro) 15ml (bloom) for a week before flush, no ph'ing needed. PH's to a perfect 6.0
Just throwing that out there for you to compare with your tap.
Just throwing that out there for you to compare with your tap.
Yea, my ppms are roughly the same. My problem is the ph swings sooo much i have to monitor it everyday and add more down (mainly in flower). For instance, i mix a rez, wait an hr or two, ph it down, check it an hour or two later and it is roughly the same. The next day i come in its swung .3 -.5 up. Ph it again, next day its swung again. Pretty much have to manage it daily. If i use ro or the 80/20, it stays put after the initial ph'ing and doesnt really budge other than maybe .1 to the next day and remains right on point till the rez is empty.
Im using the same ph drops as you, except 9 drops doesnt do shit for me unless im in ro (than it may do too much, which is why i added a little tap). I have to measure in mls to get anywhere with tap ph
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Would love to use the tap and not have to wait on the ro to fill. I can get along better in veg than flower for some reason with the tap. I think cause the veggers can deal with the higher ph. Or maybe the 3-2-1 buffers differently.
Im using the same ph drops as you, except 9 drops doesnt do shit for me unless im in ro (than it may do too much, which is why i added a little tap). I have to measure in mls to get anywhere with tap ph
. Would love to use the tap and not have to wait on the ro to fill. I can get along better in veg than flower for some reason with the tap. I think cause the veggers can deal with the higher ph. Or maybe the 3-2-1 buffers differently.
I use botanicare blocks only now nothing mixed in. Like Hugh said they have a nice texture on its own I like. I did chow mix and Perlite mix and I didnt have any better results. I have a pump and hose in my Veg rez and I just water them with 5.8 800 and use no problems. I used canna thinking it was better and didnt see any difference.I cant believe how much coco you get out of a 5G block and not to mention the savings. I also use tap through a Tall Boy with no Cal mag I like this better my plants are far more happy never have any dif. I also tried GH and didnt like it either felt it was too riddled with salts. I love the blocks there are so easy to store and move around.
One tip idk what you guys do to hydrate them but I lay the block down flat cut an x in it with a razor knife and run the water right in the middle till the coco expands 3/4 of the way out of the bag.
Leaving it in wrapper it comes in catches all the excess water and lets the coco catch it and soak it up so it doesn't run off ever ware and make the bottom 2/3 of the coco soaked while the upper half is mostly dry. I just let it sit for about a 1/2 hour break it up take out the wrapper and use. Its the most efficient and fastest way I found to do it.
One tip idk what you guys do to hydrate them but I lay the block down flat cut an x in it with a razor knife and run the water right in the middle till the coco expands 3/4 of the way out of the bag.
Leaving it in wrapper it comes in catches all the excess water and lets the coco catch it and soak it up so it doesn't run off ever ware and make the bottom 2/3 of the coco soaked while the upper half is mostly dry. I just let it sit for about a 1/2 hour break it up take out the wrapper and use. Its the most efficient and fastest way I found to do it.
i put the compressed block into a tote w/tap and as it expands ill jab a metal ice pick into the sides to break off the stuff absorbing water. flip the block over chipping the sides away until i have it all hydrated.
to wash it i put it into a 5 gal bucket w/holes drilled into the bottom, sit it on a chair that will allow the h20 to drain and then use the water hose to rinse the hell out of it. use another bucket to press excess water out of the coco and ill spread it out to dry if im not going to use it right away.
it is much more work than opening a hydrated bag of coco and if the store would have had the chunky hydrated coco i would use it but im not interested in buying the fine looking coco.
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to wash it i put it into a 5 gal bucket w/holes drilled into the bottom, sit it on a chair that will allow the h20 to drain and then use the water hose to rinse the hell out of it. use another bucket to press excess water out of the coco and ill spread it out to dry if im not going to use it right away.
it is much more work than opening a hydrated bag of coco and if the store would have had the chunky hydrated coco i would use it but im not interested in buying the fine looking coco.
peace
Morning folks 
For my first coir run this time I went with Canna as so many use it with good results....no rinsing, etc
My normal nutrients for vegging in my pro-mix have been 3ml cal-mag (botonicare), 2 ml pro-tekt, 1 ml pH up, and 5.5 g maxi-bloom which brings me right at 5.8 ph and 1.3 EC give or take. In bloom 2ml cal-mag, 1ml pro-tekt, 2ml Bloombastic, and 3.5g maxi-bloom......5.8ph @ 1.2 EC.
I have stock solutions of Jacks and Cal-nit made up as I was going to make the switch on nutrients at the same time as switching mediums but maybe will stick with same nutes (adjusted) so I do not have too many different variables to deal with as I am still a newbie as it is.
For my first coir run this time I went with Canna as so many use it with good results....no rinsing, etc
My normal nutrients for vegging in my pro-mix have been 3ml cal-mag (botonicare), 2 ml pro-tekt, 1 ml pH up, and 5.5 g maxi-bloom which brings me right at 5.8 ph and 1.3 EC give or take. In bloom 2ml cal-mag, 1ml pro-tekt, 2ml Bloombastic, and 3.5g maxi-bloom......5.8ph @ 1.2 EC.
I have stock solutions of Jacks and Cal-nit made up as I was going to make the switch on nutrients at the same time as switching mediums but maybe will stick with same nutes (adjusted) so I do not have too many different variables to deal with as I am still a newbie as it is.
cat that's not a huge swing, does it keep rising if you leave it be? I honestly believe its good to swing a little, give everything a chance to get in the right ph range for uptake. I'd try to figure what the tap buffers to, say its gonna move up .5 total. mix it where the range its moving is still within acceptable ranges if that makes any sense lol,i'm triangle tripped up at the moment.
in polk I had a similar issue with my tap which was only around 225ppms,took like 2.5 ml of ph down per gallon to get around 6. then it'd rise up to 7.5 in a couple days. I started mixing it 5.0 and with the rise it worked out well.
my tap now takes around 7ml of the gh stuff per 10 gallons to get the veg right but like al said, once there it stays, the flower formula is dead on at all times
in polk I had a similar issue with my tap which was only around 225ppms,took like 2.5 ml of ph down per gallon to get around 6. then it'd rise up to 7.5 in a couple days. I started mixing it 5.0 and with the rise it worked out well.
my tap now takes around 7ml of the gh stuff per 10 gallons to get the veg right but like al said, once there it stays, the flower formula is dead on at all times
So at almost 3 weeks since putting my cuttings into the coir I see no ill effects 
The babies in the background are doing their thing in the pro-mix......9/9 germination
The babies in the background are doing their thing in the pro-mix......9/9 germination
i'll have to make another rez with the tap and watch it to give a real answer. I didnt track it each day but i do remember having to add ph down thru out the whole weeks worth of rez.
I dont mind .5 swing over say 5-7 days but .5 a day seems like a lot of work an ph down to me. I didnt think the plants like a big swing like that all in one day either. I know that AN ph down is some lethal shit compared to the others......i have multiple holes in the grout where i mix small buckets in the bathroom, ate that grout away right down to the slab.
Which week of flower schedule does yours come right on point? Every week? I have never had it mix in range for flower with out ph down here. Now with RO water i can have it hit right in range or slightly under.
I will do another test later and see if we can maybe figure out the buffering, i have been reading on this but do not fully understand yet. My guess is you overload it with ph down to neutralize the buffer in the tap and than it stabilizes.... if i skimmed over that post accurately
I dont mind .5 swing over say 5-7 days but .5 a day seems like a lot of work an ph down to me. I didnt think the plants like a big swing like that all in one day either. I know that AN ph down is some lethal shit compared to the others......i have multiple holes in the grout where i mix small buckets in the bathroom, ate that grout away right down to the slab.
Which week of flower schedule does yours come right on point? Every week? I have never had it mix in range for flower with out ph down here. Now with RO water i can have it hit right in range or slightly under.
I will do another test later and see if we can maybe figure out the buffering, i have been reading on this but do not fully understand yet. My guess is you overload it with ph down to neutralize the buffer in the tap and than it stabilizes.... if i skimmed over that post accurately
So at almost 3 weeks since putting my cuttings into the coir I see no ill effects
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The babies in the background are doing their thing in the pro-mix......9/9 germination
what pro-mix are you germinating your sees in?
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yeah .5 a day is a lot, mine was over the course of a few days or between waterings. and at the point I mix the first flowering feed its in range here. I say test a batch like you said, find the point that it stops rising and go from there. P is good for dropping the ph too, maybe some lkb back in the schedule?
thanks. i suck at getting seeds thru the first 2-3 wks but no prob. cloning....go figure.
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Thanks for the compliments fellas
Kinda slow in here.....y'all off rejoicing bridging the gap between Key West and Cuba
Purple Frostbyte @ day 11
Kinda slow in here.....y'all off rejoicing bridging the gap between Key West and Cuba
Purple Frostbyte @ day 11
I have smoked one Cuban cigar.......while on vacation in Jamaica. I did enjoy enjoy the experience even though it cost more than the weed I smoked while there. That being said.....haven't smoked anything other than cannabis since then and that was 10 years ago
Well......
Well......
Good to see everybody busy with their grows.
KK, sorry to hear your eventual return has been delayed but I understand. I've hung around a couple jobs longer than I wanted to so I could cash a bonus check. Actually the last 90 days when I DGAF was the best part of one job.
Got some Triangle Trips, some Laughing Tiger, a couple volunteers of that Guatemala monster I grew and a half dozen starts of a cross I made (Durban Poison X Pine Queen Haze).
I need to take some pics in the next week or two so when I do I'll throw some up but at this time of year everything veges very slowly. I'll probably veg until mid Jan, take cuts where appropriate and then flip to flower and finish mid to late March depending on the strain.
I'm not gonna let the Guatemala go so long this time, I want to see how she smokes at 60 days, although I've never flowered a pure Sativa in the spring so I hope I can pull it off and she doesn't start to reveg.
Hope every one has a Happy Holiday - be smart about partying and driving. LEO just announced a weekend DUI crackdown in my neck of the woods with all city, county and FHP forces working in cooperation.
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I could complain but nobody wants to hear that shit.
how goes it dp?
Good to see everybody busy with their grows.
KK, sorry to hear your eventual return has been delayed but I understand. I've hung around a couple jobs longer than I wanted to so I could cash a bonus check. Actually the last 90 days when I DGAF was the best part of one job.
Got some Triangle Trips, some Laughing Tiger, a couple volunteers of that Guatemala monster I grew and a half dozen starts of a cross I made (Durban Poison X Pine Queen Haze).
I need to take some pics in the next week or two so when I do I'll throw some up but at this time of year everything veges very slowly. I'll probably veg until mid Jan, take cuts where appropriate and then flip to flower and finish mid to late March depending on the strain.
I'm not gonna let the Guatemala go so long this time, I want to see how she smokes at 60 days, although I've never flowered a pure Sativa in the spring so I hope I can pull it off and she doesn't start to reveg.
Hope every one has a Happy Holiday - be smart about partying and driving. LEO just announced a weekend DUI crackdown in my neck of the woods with all city, county and FHP forces working in cooperation.
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